[Flightgear-devel] 747-400 cruise information

2003-03-08 Thread David Culp
I asked a 747-400 pilot what was the fuel flow per engine at cruise.  He said 
about 6000 lb-per-hour.  Assuming a TSFC of 0.5 (I've seen 0.318 and 0.348 
for the PW4060, but I don't trust these numbers) that would mean each engine 
is developing 12000 pounds of thrust.  Therefore the total drag on the 
airplane at cruise is 48000 pounds, and total fuel flow is 24000 pph.

These are very approximate numbers, but they might help locate the fuel burn 
problem with the Yasim 747 model.  The pilot said he would take some notes on 
the next flight and email the numbers to me, so we'll have better data to go 
on (although I think we still have to guess the TSFC).

Dave Culp

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747-400 cruise information

2003-03-08 Thread Major A

 I asked a 747-400 pilot what was the fuel flow per engine at cruise.  He said 
 about 6000 lb-per-hour.  Assuming a TSFC of 0.5 (I've seen 0.318 and 0.348 
 for the PW4060, but I don't trust these numbers) that would mean each engine 
 is developing 12000 pounds of thrust.  Therefore the total drag on the 
 airplane at cruise is 48000 pounds, and total fuel flow is 24000 pph.

Well. The YaSim model seems to burn something like 2000-4000 GALLONS
per hour (depending on altitude and weight) during normal cruise
(33000ft) per engine. Go figure.

  Andras

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747-400 cruise information

2003-03-08 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote:
I asked a 747-400 pilot what was the fuel flow per engine at cruise.  He said 
about 6000 lb-per-hour.  Assuming a TSFC of 0.5 (I've seen 0.318 and 0.348 
for the PW4060, but I don't trust these numbers) that would mean each engine 
is developing 12000 pounds of thrust.  Therefore the total drag on the 
airplane at cruise is 48000 pounds, and total fuel flow is 24000 pph.

These are very approximate numbers, but they might help locate the fuel burn 
problem with the Yasim 747 model.  The pilot said he would take some notes on 
the next flight and email the numbers to me, so we'll have better data to go 
on (although I think we still have to guess the TSFC).
You can find the numbers 
here:http://www.bh.com/companions/034074152X/appendices/data-b/table-2/default.htm

Erik



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[Flightgear-devel] Metakit update

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Basler

You may recall me (and other Cygwin users) having problems compiling Metakit
for some time. These were the issues: (i) I had to specify --with-tcl=no (no
big deal), (ii) I had to eleminate 30 lines of code from strings.cpp which
would not compile (ugly).

I contacted the author Jean-Claude Wippler about that and got an immediate
reply. He suggested an update to the current version 2.4.9.1. As he states,
version 2.4.3 which we provide with SimGear had some serious flaws.

I downloaded the recent version 2.4.9.1 from http://www.equi4.com/metakit/
and tried to build it (Cygwin, GCC3.2) and, voila, both problems are gone.
Moreover, I re-build all FlightGear on top of it and don't observe anything
wrong.

As a result, could we provide this recent version with Simgear?

Thanks, Michael

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[Flightgear-devel] nurbs surfaces

2003-03-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Has anyone here ever played with nurbs surfaces?  Let's say I want to
fit a nurbs surface through a regular grid of points (x,y,height).

I've poked around at nurbs++ (libnurbs.sf.net) but there is scant
documentation on surfaces.

Thanks,

Curt.
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[Flightgear-devel] CVS make error

2003-03-08 Thread Chris Tulloch
Hello, 
Trying to compile the CVS release, I run into this error
Anyone have any suggestions? Need more Info?

g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../src/Include -I../../.. -I../../../src  
-I/usr/X11R6/include  -Wall -c ExternalPipe.cxx
ExternalPipe.cxx: In constructor `FGExternalPipe::FGExternalPipe(double, 
std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar )':
ExternalPipe.cxx:49: `cout' undeclared (first use this function)
ExternalPipe.cxx:49: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for 
each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [ExternalPipe.o] Error 1

Thanks
Chris Tulloch

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[Flightgear-devel] 2D Panel Instrument Change

2003-03-08 Thread David Megginson
I've made a change to the switch layer type that is very useful but
also, unfortunately, backwards-incompatible (I've updated all of the
instruments currently in the base package).

In its old version, the switch layer looked like this:

  layer
   typeswitch/type
   property/foo/bar/property

   layer
...
   /layer

   layer
...
   /layer

  /layer

If the /foo/bar property had a true boolean value, the first child
layer would be used; otherwise, the second would be used.  In the new
version, the switch layer looks like this:

  layer
   typeswitch/type

   layer
condition
 ...
/condition
...
   /layer

   !-- repeat as many times as needed --
 
   layer
...
   /layer   

  /layer

The first layer with a true condition gets used, no matter how many
layers there are.  This approach allows for simpler and more elegant
tests in animating 2D instruments.


All the best,


David

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[Flightgear-devel] FGTransmissionList

2003-03-08 Thread Jon Berndt
I'm getting a build error for FlightGear with the newest stuff from CVS.
Any clues?

Jon


g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -c
 -o transmissionlist.o `test -fcho './'`transmissionlist.cxx
transmissionlist.cxx: In method `class string
FGTransmissionList::gen_text(const int , TransCode, const T
transmissionlist.cxx:209: passing `char (*)[4]' as argument 2 of
`bcopy(const char *, char *, unsigned int
make[2]: *** [transmissionlist.o] Error 1


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] nurbs surfaces

2003-03-08 Thread Danie Heath
Hi,

A good place to search is at www.gamedev.net They have just about
everything on that site

Kind Regards

Danie Heath
Software Integrator
RisC Com cc
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http://www.risccom.co.za

 Has anyone here ever played with nurbs surfaces?  Let's say I want to
 fit a nurbs surface through a regular grid of points (x,y,height).

 I've poked around at nurbs++ (libnurbs.sf.net) but there is scant
 documentation on surfaces.

 Thanks,

 Curt.
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 Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota
  http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt   http://www.flightgear.org

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