Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Arnt Karlsen wrote:


Helicopters
---
Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
Kaman K1200 K-max
Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk



..use/develop the fdm from http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ ?


I *think* we get the message by now ...
;-)

Erik


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[Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Selig
Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:

I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external models 
under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with FlightGear.  I have 
the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight models (aero, propulsion, 
gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is interested in these, I'll email 
off the zip file(s).

It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet to be 
fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.

Here's the list:

~~
AF Scrubby
WWI Belgian Collection
~~

Nieuport 17 with one gun
Spad XIII
Spad VII
Nieuport 17 with 2 guns
Hanriot hd-1
Sopwith Camel (already flying)


Captain Slug


Propeller
-
Beech B76 Duchess
Cessna 180 wheels floats skis
EAPL Eagle X-TS
Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
GlastarTail Tri Floats
Raytheon T-6A Texan II
Tango 22 Repaints

Jets

Bede BD-10 Falcon
Cessna CitationJet 500
Cessna CitationJet 525
Dassault Falcon 900EX
De Havilland Venom Mk4
Gulfstream V
Lear Jet 23
Lockheed F-117 NightHawk
Me163 Komet
North American T-2 BuckEye
Northrop B-2 Spirit
Northrop T-38 Talon

Helicopters
---
Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
Kaman K1200 K-max
Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk

Others
--
BatWing
Schweizer 2-33
Airwave Xtreme Hang-Glider (already flying)

Regards,
Michael


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:42:20 -0600
 Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and 
Captain Slug:



Yee-haw!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:42:20 -0600, 
Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:
 
 I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external
 models under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with
 FlightGear.  I have the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight
 models (aero, propulsion, gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is
 interested in these, I'll email off the zip file(s).

..shoot!  ;-)

 It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet
 to be fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.
 
 Here's the list:

..snip.

 Helicopters
 ---
 Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
 Kaman K1200 K-max
 Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk

..use/develop the fdm from http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ ?

-- 
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Jim Wilson
Wow, nice list.  The Citation 525 is a beautiful bird...how does the model
look?  Could be a nice addition to the stable.  It might be cool to add the
Embraer to get some South American representation (the ERJ's are my favorite
though).

Best,

Jim

Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:
 
 I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external models 
 under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with FlightGear.  I have 
 the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight models (aero, propulsion, 
 gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is interested in these, I'll email 
 off the zip file(s).
 
 It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet to be 
 fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.
 
 Here's the list:
 
 ~~
 AF Scrubby
 WWI Belgian Collection
 ~~
 
 Nieuport 17 with one gun
 Spad XIII
 Spad VII
 Nieuport 17 with 2 guns
 Hanriot hd-1
 Sopwith Camel (already flying)
 
 
 Captain Slug
 
 
 Propeller
 -
 Beech B76 Duchess
 Cessna 180 wheels floats skis
 EAPL Eagle X-TS
 Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
 GlastarTail Tri Floats
 Raytheon T-6A Texan II
 Tango 22 Repaints
 
 Jets
 
 Bede BD-10 Falcon
 Cessna CitationJet 500
 Cessna CitationJet 525
 Dassault Falcon 900EX
 De Havilland Venom Mk4
 Gulfstream V
 Lear Jet 23
 Lockheed F-117 NightHawk
 Me163 Komet
 North American T-2 BuckEye
 Northrop B-2 Spirit
 Northrop T-38 Talon
 
 Helicopters
 ---
 Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
 Kaman K1200 K-max
 Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk
 
 Others
 --
 BatWing
 Schweizer 2-33
 Airwave Xtreme Hang-Glider (already flying)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Christopher S Horler
I always wanted to fly the BatWing!  Just need tech data now:-)

Chris


On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 18:42, Michael Selig wrote:
 Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:
 
 I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external models 
 under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with FlightGear.  I have 
 the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight models (aero, propulsion, 
 gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is interested in these, I'll email 
 off the zip file(s).
 
 It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet to be 
 fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.
 
 Here's the list:
 
 ~~
 AF Scrubby
 WWI Belgian Collection
 ~~
 
 Nieuport 17 with one gun
 Spad XIII
 Spad VII
 Nieuport 17 with 2 guns
 Hanriot hd-1
 Sopwith Camel (already flying)
 
 
 Captain Slug
 
 
 Propeller
 -
 Beech B76 Duchess
 Cessna 180 wheels floats skis
 EAPL Eagle X-TS
 Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
 GlastarTail Tri Floats
 Raytheon T-6A Texan II
 Tango 22 Repaints
 
 Jets
 
 Bede BD-10 Falcon
 Cessna CitationJet 500
 Cessna CitationJet 525
 Dassault Falcon 900EX
 De Havilland Venom Mk4
 Gulfstream V
 Lear Jet 23
 Lockheed F-117 NightHawk
 Me163 Komet
 North American T-2 BuckEye
 Northrop B-2 Spirit
 Northrop T-38 Talon
 
 Helicopters
 ---
 Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
 Kaman K1200 K-max
 Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk
 
 Others
 --
 BatWing
 Schweizer 2-33
 Airwave Xtreme Hang-Glider (already flying)
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread John Check
On Friday 13 December 2002 1:42 pm, Michael Selig wrote:
 Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:

 I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external models
 under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with FlightGear.  I have
 the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight models (aero, propulsion,
 gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is interested in these, I'll email
 off the zip file(s).

 It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet to be
 fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.


Absolutely. I think though, that we should concentrate on models
for planes that we have data for. The base package is getting tubby,
which a module will address nicely, and we can roll individual models
over as they are ready.
It's not currently an issue, but storage may be getting tight on the base
package server in the not too distant future. I'd have to question putting
the helicopters in at this point. 

Perhaps the best way to go would be archive the whole ball of wax
and introduce them into CVS as needed instead of dumping them all 
in now.

 Here's the list:

 ~~
 AF Scrubby
 WWI Belgian Collection
 ~~

 Nieuport 17 with one gun
 Spad XIII
 Spad VII
 Nieuport 17 with 2 guns
 Hanriot hd-1
 Sopwith Camel (already flying)

 
 Captain Slug
 

 Propeller
 -
 Beech B76 Duchess
 Cessna 180 wheels floats skis
 EAPL Eagle X-TS
 Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
 GlastarTail Tri Floats
 Raytheon T-6A Texan II
 Tango 22 Repaints

 Jets
 
 Bede BD-10 Falcon
 Cessna CitationJet 500
 Cessna CitationJet 525
 Dassault Falcon 900EX
 De Havilland Venom Mk4
 Gulfstream V
 Lear Jet 23
 Lockheed F-117 NightHawk
 Me163 Komet
 North American T-2 BuckEye
 Northrop B-2 Spirit
 Northrop T-38 Talon

 Helicopters
 ---
 Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
 Kaman K1200 K-max
 Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk

 Others
 --
 BatWing
 Schweizer 2-33
 Airwave Xtreme Hang-Glider (already flying)

 Regards,
 Michael


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread John Check
On Friday 13 December 2002 2:26 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:42:20 -0600,
 Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:
 
  I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external
  models under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with
  FlightGear.  I have the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight
  models (aero, propulsion, gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is
  interested in these, I'll email off the zip file(s).

 ..shoot!  ;-)

  It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet
  to be fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.
 
  Here's the list:

 ..snip.

  Helicopters
  ---
  Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
  Kaman K1200 K-max
  Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk

 ..use/develop the fdm from http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ ?

One of these guys attended my conference session at LWCE last year.
IIRC autopilot is just that, but I beleive they were interested in using
FGFS as sim to develop on. I do not know if they made a chopper FDM
we can use, but I don't think they would have hesitated to let us know
about it. Then again, they're doing their own thing, so who knows. I can't 
pull up the FAQ right now.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Selig
At 12/13/02, Jim Wilson wrote:

Wow, nice list.  The Citation 525 is a beautiful bird...how does the model
look?  Could be a nice addition to the stable.  It might be cool to add the
Embraer to get some South American representation (the ERJ's are my favorite
though).


I don't have pictures of the Captain Slug's planes yet.  When I get a 
chance, I'll pull them up in FGFS and post them to a webpage.  But I do 
have pics of AF Scrubby's models here:

http://www.aae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/tmp/

Regards,
Michael


Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Some good news and a BIG THANKS to AF Scrubby and Captain Slug:

 I (we) have obtained permission from them to use their 3D external models
 under the GNU GPL.  All of these models will work with FlightGear.  I have
 the zip files.  To fly, all they need are flight models (aero, propulsion,
 gear, etc) backing them up.  If anyone is interested in these, I'll email
 off the zip file(s).

 It might be a good idea to make a cvs module that contains these yet to be
 fully developed FGFS aircraft.  That way they will not get lost.

 Here's the list:

 ~~
 AF Scrubby
 WWI Belgian Collection
 ~~

 Nieuport 17 with one gun
 Spad XIII
 Spad VII
 Nieuport 17 with 2 guns
 Hanriot hd-1
 Sopwith Camel (already flying)

 
 Captain Slug
 

 Propeller
 -
 Beech B76 Duchess
 Cessna 180 wheels floats skis
 EAPL Eagle X-TS
 Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
 GlastarTail Tri Floats
 Raytheon T-6A Texan II
 Tango 22 Repaints

 Jets
 
 Bede BD-10 Falcon
 Cessna CitationJet 500
 Cessna CitationJet 525
 Dassault Falcon 900EX
 De Havilland Venom Mk4
 Gulfstream V
 Lear Jet 23
 Lockheed F-117 NightHawk
 Me163 Komet
 North American T-2 BuckEye
 Northrop B-2 Spirit
 Northrop T-38 Talon

 Helicopters
 ---
 Bell AH-1S SuperCobra
 Kaman K1200 K-max
 Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk

 Others
 --
 BatWing
 Schweizer 2-33
 Airwave Xtreme Hang-Glider (already flying)

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