Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
James Turner writes: Yes, it looks great. However, it has unearthed a *serious* (ahem) issue with the collision detection logic. You can't fly under the bridge. I tried it once, in the airbus, and figured i'd clipped the tail on the road deck, but I just tried again with the 747, and was definitely well clear this time. Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 15:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote: James Turner writes: Yes, it looks great. However, it has unearthed a *serious* (ahem) issue with the collision detection logic. You can't fly under the bridge. I tried it once, in the airbus, and figured i'd clipped the tail on the road deck, but I just tried again with the 747, and was definitely well clear this time. Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org You can actually fly between the suspension chains although the towers are pretty solid;) LeeE ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. That sounds fairly reasonable. However, as SimGear and TerraGear evolve towards general vehicle simulation, we will want to allow cars, boats, and trains to pass under bridges. It should be pretty easy to get this behavior. When you get the list of terrain intersection points, just ignore any points that are higher than you, and accept the highest point that is at or below the current vehicle elevation. I thought this was the way we had it working years ago, but that section of the code has been optimized several times since then ... Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
Curtis L. Olson writes: Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. That sounds fairly reasonable. However, as SimGear and TerraGear evolve towards general vehicle simulation, we will want to allow cars, boats, and trains to pass under bridges. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
You can't fly under the bridge. I tried it once, in the airbus, and figured i'd clipped the tail on the road deck, but I just tried again with the 747, and was definitely well clear this time. Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. Curt. Could you add the feature to fly under bridges? I prefer having a realistic simulator that allows everthing instead of a simulator that is baby sitting me. Best Regards, Oliver C. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:04:05 +0100, Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 15:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote: James Turner writes: Yes, it looks great. However, it has unearthed a *serious* (ahem) issue with the collision detection logic. You can't fly under the bridge. I tried it once, in the airbus, and figured i'd clipped the tail on the road deck, but I just tried again with the 747, and was definitely well clear this time. Most high end commercial sims explicitly prevent flying under bridges. It's one of the first things most people think to try, but it's not something a serious training sim would want to encourage. You can actually fly between the suspension chains although the towers are pretty solid;) ..assuming your is aim _good_ and your plane is small enough, I believe you can in RL too. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
A new bridge, the famoust, is in CVS : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/fgfs-golden-gate-01.png -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
Frederic Bouvier writes: A new bridge, the famoust, is in CVS : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/fgfs-golden-gate-01.png Gorgeous! I've been waiting for this one for a long time -- Marin County looked so lonely sitting there with no link to SF. Does anyone want to put a static model of a freighter steaming under it? All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
On Sunday 13 July 2003 12:25, David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: A new bridge, the famoust, is in CVS : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/fgfs-golden-gate-01.png Gorgeous! I've been waiting for this one for a long time -- Marin County looked so lonely sitting there with no link to SF. I agree, that looks Great! I've been waiting to see it as wll :) WillyB Does anyone want to put a static model of a freighter steaming under it? All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
James Turner writes: Another thing to consider is the flip-side - being able to taxi *on* bridges, You can do this in FGFS now You just can't fly lower then the highest point at any location I don't know how much collision detection SSG handles, SSG doesn't do collision detection period, SSG does do HOT height over terrain but this is almost a diirect copy of what I worked out for FlightGear If you want collision not HOT I suggest you look into integrating 'ode' or 'opcode' into FlightGear http://opende.sourceforge.net/ode-collision-porting.html http://www.codercorner.com/Opcode.htm Note http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/plib/plib/demos/ode_demo/Attic/simple.cpp?rev=1.1content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-marku p Cheers Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Golden Gate Bridge
Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A new bridge, the famoust, is in CVS : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/fgfs-golden-gate-01.png Wow! What a nice view :-) I've been having a ball flying circles around the new construction the last couple weeks, checking it all out. Great work! Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
