[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter, and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-06 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Curt, well argued - our real-world pilots handle these engine startup and shutdown procedures very seriously in helicopters without FADEC, ie. Eurocopter BO105, BK117. Getting the temperatures too high (hot start, ITT++) is a financial desaster. And what not might be generally known - the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter, and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-06 Thread Andy Ross
Georg Vollnhals wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: There are people in the world that are actually looking at FlightGear for building training simulators (certified and not certified) and these people are actually quite interested in the nit-picky details of engine operation. well argued -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter, and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-06 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georg Vollnhals schrieb: Curt, well argued - our real-world pilots handle these engine startup and shutdown procedures very seriously in helicopters without FADEC, ie. Eurocopter BO105, BK117. Getting the temperatures too high (hot start, ITT++)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter, and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:33:09 +0200, Christian wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AFAIK Porsche were the only ones that have build an extra electrical motor to turn the turbo after shut down. As car turbos get turned only ..turn the turbo??? You mean pump lube oil thru it till it's as cool

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-03 Thread Andy Ross
Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and shutdown. Everything would have to be done specifically for

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-03 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and shutdown. Everything would have to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Saturday 03 September 2005 17:43, Vivian Meazza wrote: the deal? :) No idea. I suppose flameouts and relights could enliven a dull mission. Then we could do compressor surge, and bird strikes ... nah, forget it :-) Vivian Would it be a first if FlightGear implemented a real-time AI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-03 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 03 Sep 2005 19:02, Dave Martin wrote: On Saturday 03 September 2005 17:43, Vivian Meazza wrote: the deal? :) No idea. I suppose flameouts and relights could enliven a dull mission. Then we could do compressor surge, and bird strikes ... nah, forget it :-) Vivian Would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)

2005-09-03 Thread Peter Stickney
On Saturday 03 September 2005 11:47, Andy Ross wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and