Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Runway distance remaining signs + placement

2004-09-10 Thread David Luff


On 9/9/04 at 9:00 AM Alex Perry wrote:

From: David Megginson davi...
 On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:35:30 +0200, Erik Hofman eri... wrote:
  I do think so, don't we.
  I mean, this is an essential part of airfields, but don't know enough
  about this subject to assert that the numbers are always right this
way.
  There's also the danger of overengineering our airfields

Yeah.  Most of the airports I fly into have them, but then they also have
instrument approaches and runways longer than 4kft.  I'm tempted to say
that we add them onto any runway longer than 5kft or having a LOC/ILS.


I like the heuristics suggestion.  You might want to consider longer than
5kft *and* either wider than some value or having a precision approach, to
weed out the long runways at small high altitude airports.

However, the X-Plane data format does currently contain a has distance
remaining signs flag.  So, you (Chris) could download his data from
www.x-plane.org/users/robinp and feed that into your script in addition to
FG data, or alternatively get Curt to request that this flag gets added to
FG data, at which point it will come available in the future.  Of course,
I'm not sure how consistent this flag is in his data wrt real life...

Cheers - Dave


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Runway distance remaining signs + placement

2004-09-09 Thread Alex Perry
From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:35:30 +0200, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I do think so, don't we.
  I mean, this is an essential part of airfields, but don't know enough
  about this subject to assert that the numbers are always right this way.
  There's also the danger of overengineering our airfields

Yeah.  Most of the airports I fly into have them, but then they also have
instrument approaches and runways longer than 4kft.  I'm tempted to say
that we add them onto any runway longer than 5kft or having a LOC/ILS.

Basically, if it is obvious (to the pilot) how much runway remains when
at the midpoint of the runway for the minimum visual conditions ...
I suspect that the signage is not installed because it would be pointless!

class G airport can be clear of clouds ... but signage mostly missing.
class E airport requires 1 mile visual ... need signage at 10kft rwy.
class D airport can do SVFR and instrument ops ... signage at 3kft rwy.


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