Re: [Flightgear-devel] b1900d logo

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
syd wrote:
 I see from user screenshots that my idea of a transparent logo for the 
 B1900d was a bad idea .

Don't worry, the B1900D is still several users all-time-favourite  ;-)
I wouldn't care that much for the logo. I consider performance numbers
to be of higher priority: You need to reach at least 130 kts in order
to rotate (at sea level without flaps) but I'd expect such an aircraft
to rotate at significant lower speed.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] b1900d logo

2005-12-20 Thread Jean-Yves Lefort
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:59:36 + (UTC)
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 syd wrote:
  I see from user screenshots that my idea of a transparent logo for the 
  B1900d was a bad idea .
 
 Don't worry, the B1900D is still several users all-time-favourite  ;-)
 I wouldn't care that much for the logo. I consider performance numbers
 to be of higher priority: You need to reach at least 130 kts in order
 to rotate (at sea level without flaps) but I'd expect such an aircraft
 to rotate at significant lower speed.

As far as I know, rotation speed with no flaps and a service payload
is about 105/110 kts. I could lift it at that speed some weeks ago,
but some changes in the yasim code and/or in the b1900d.xml file
caused a regression.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] b1900d logo

2005-12-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Jean-Yves Lefort wrote:


As far as I know, rotation speed with no flaps and a service payload
is about 105/110 kts. I could lift it at that speed some weeks ago,
but some changes in the yasim code and/or in the b1900d.xml file
caused a regression.
 



Looking back through CVS, I think the big change was that the fuel load 
got doubled.  If you cut the fuel down to about 2000 lbs total I think 
the aircraft will return.


I made a small change to the config file so the aircraft lift/drag 
solution is computed at 80% fuel capacity rather than 20% fuel capacity 
... this makes a huge difference in bringing the numbers back closer to 
what I'd expect.  This is a WAG though ... we need to find a POH and 
start double checking stall speed and climb performance numbers to make 
sure we are in the right ball park here.  I hate to guess too much.


Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] b1900d logo

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
syd wrote:
 I see from user screenshots that my idea of a transparent logo for the 
 B1900d was a bad idea . I always assume that if it works on my computer 
 it must work on everyone else's:)

BTW, my screenshot overhead the Tempelhof building was done on Win32,
the logo looks correct on XOrg with the OpenSource ATI r200 driver
without shadows. I just don't own a computer (I don't own any PeeCee at
all ) that is powerful to display shadows, so I have to eomploy
some Windows machine if I want to profit from all those nice features.

Cheers,
Martin.
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[Flightgear-devel] b1900d logo

2005-12-19 Thread syd
I see from user screenshots that my idea of a transparent logo for the 
B1900d was a bad idea . I always assume that if it works on my computer 
it must work on everyone else's:).Im learning !

Syd

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