Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 12:39:06AM +0200, Oliver C. wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? This is a great idea! I like forums and prefer them. But you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:37:15AM +, Martin Spott wrote: This posting is written using 'telnet'. Cheers, Dito. With mutt running on the server. Only got a Win95 with 99MHz and 8MB here. Good enough for putty.exe, but graphical browsers are a pain. And java(script) would be a nogo. (Agreed,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Andy Ross
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Anway, I like the idea of having a dedicated online message board for FlightGear. The primary reason why I like online message board is that all the posts in a topic are grouped under one thread and are sorted by dates, which is more organized in my opinion. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread flightgear
I like forums very much. I used to hate mailing lists untill I came here. They are not that bad but as everyone said, they are not that easy to browse. Question: would it be that hard to improve the web-based archive-reader? I would like to have a kind of expandable tree view... But I think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:21:59 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think a forum is a great idea. The biggest advantage I see over most mailing lists is that a forum is searchable. I see too many F/OSS projects with mailing lists that aren't searchable. Having a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On September 15, 2005 10:00 am, Andy Ross wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Anway, I like the idea of having a dedicated online message board for FlightGear.  The primary reason why I like online message board is that all the posts in a topic are grouped under one thread and are sorted by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:21:59 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think a forum is a great idea. The biggest advantage I see over most mailing lists is that a forum is searchable. I see too many F/OSS projects with mailing lists that aren't searchable. Having a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-15 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Nope. I can sort mails by thread, date, and author fine. It's just that I feel a message board is more organized. In anycase, it doesn't matter, as majority of the developers object to the idea of switching to a message board. To my recognition most arguments

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread dalen . kruse
While I'm not an active developer (just lurk on the list), I'd like to give my opinion on this. I think a forum is a great idea. The biggest advantage I see over most mailing lists is that a forum is searchable. I see too many F/OSS projects with mailing lists that aren't searchable. Having

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Andy Ross
A J MacLeod wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
AJ MacLeod wrote Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the disadvantages. For one thing, it's much easier to keep up with the mailing lists, as I monitor my email through most of the day for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:03:07PM -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? Shudder. This would probably be the end of my participation. I can't work with forums, and I don't want to. - I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:00:33PM +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:03:07PM -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: - I'm getting really sick of spam. What's wrong with spam filters? e.g. bogofilter, Or simpler: don't allow anyone who isn't subscribed to post to the lists.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis L. Olson schrieb: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? I hate forums. At a mailinglist I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Or simpler: don't allow anyone who isn't subscribed to post to the lists. There's still the AVSim forum and the IRC channel for notorious non-subscribers. I'd prefer an official forum on flightgear.org for that, though. AVSim does in no way feel official. (Is it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christian Mayer wrote: I hate forums. At a mailinglist I've got nothing to do - they come to me. At a forum I must think of querying it once in a while - I have to come to them. It's like the difference between polling and interrupts... - I'm getting really sick of spam. That's a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Sylvain Mazet wrote: Hi, I am also just playing with FG, lurking on the lists searching for info. I prefer mailing lists, but it would be really nice if the archives at flightgear were searchable. They are searchable last I checked. Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Sylvain Mazet
Hi, I am also just playing with FG, lurking on the lists searching for info. I prefer mailing lists, but it would be really nice if the archives at flightgear were searchable. Sylvain. On 9/14/05, Christian Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? I think you'll lose an *awful* lot of input. I'm really no fan of forums. Mail gets

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Andy Ross wrote: A J MacLeod wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 14 Sep 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? - People would only have to subscribe once and they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Vivian Meazza wrote: AJ MacLeod wrote Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the disadvantages. For one thing, it's much easier to keep up with the mailing lists, as I monitor my email through

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: A J MacLeod wrote: Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the disadvantages. Ditto. Reading threaded mail with Thunderbird vs. with PHPbb or the like isn't even a fair

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman wrote: I'm for dumping every mail not from a list member instead. We already do that. The problem is with all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail. These addresses can't be avoided and are a huge spam attracter for the two flightgear co-list admins. But just to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Richard Harrison
I much prefer mailing lists. They are so accesible and flexibile. The important content arrives (and I appreciate the effort of admins to maintain this). I actually think that mailing lists work really well, and it sounds like the problem is more down to the spam. Could we setup an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Oliver C.
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? This is a great idea! I like forums and prefer them.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Andy Ross
Oliver C. wrote: 2. The Readably of a web based forum is better. This is a joke, right? It must be all those giant, blinking, hot pink 600x200 signature GIFs that help you tell where the text content is. :) Heh, to each his own. Although I will point out that most of your complaints have more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Dave Martin
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? I quite like the idea of forums at least for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Paul Kahler
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 17:09 -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: The problem is with all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail. These addresses can't be avoided and are a huge spam attracter for the two flightgear co-list admins. But just to be clear, I'm not trying to solve a spam

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Paul Kahler wrote: This may be too late now unless the address changes. Get the email address off the web pages. Just where do you think the spammers are getting the address from? My ISP has some form of spam blocking, but I receive about 1 spam every month or two. I think the reason for this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Curtis L. Olson snip (this is a general response to already quoted a few times thread :-)) Hi Curt, PhpBB is one I've heard a lot about and have probably used, but not run. I think it runs on Postgres and others. The Ideal Forum software: It seems to me that the ideal forum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On September 14, 2005 01:03 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? I always wanted to ask the same question, but I have a believe that FlightGear uses a mailing list for a reason, so I never ask.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Curtis L. Olson Paul Kahler wrote: This may be too late now unless the address changes. Get the email address off the web pages. Just where do you think the spammers are getting the address from? My ISP has some form of spam blocking, but I receive about 1 spam every month or two.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
Just my two cent Oliver C. wrote: 2. The Readably of a web based forum is better. I'd find it annoying that you have to start a graphical desktop plus a graphical web browser just in order to read a few lines of _text_ ! The usability of web forums in a text browser like 'lynx' is