Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior, This stuff can get confusing, and I hate to reopen a big can of worms, and I didn't really pay attention to the JSBsim VRP discussion a while back. With YAsim you can pick any point as the (0,0,0) point and reference all your dimensions and positions from there. YAsim handles this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Josh Babcock
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Melchior, This stuff can get confusing, and I hate to reopen a big can of worms, and I didn't really pay attention to the JSBsim VRP discussion a while back. With YAsim you can pick any point as the (0,0,0) point and reference all your dimensions and positions from

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Jon Berndt
Curt quipped: If you want to use the same 3d model for multiple FDM configurations which choose different reference points, then that makes life a lot harder. I think that is what the JSBsim VRP is for. I had to laugh when reading these two sentences together. It sort of read ( to me )

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: I know. But still, YASim's origin (the nose) is the (unchangeable) VRP, or what JSBSim calls VRP, right? And the 3D model would also have to be moved such that the nose is at YASim's 0/0/0, too. But the bo105 does only turn around the CG if the main *rotor axis* wrongly

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt said: Curt quipped: If you want to use the same 3d model for multiple FDM configurations which choose different reference points, then that makes life a lot harder. I think that is what the JSBsim VRP is for. I had to laugh when reading these two sentences together. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Wednesday 04 August 2004 13:58: [...] Where you might be getting confused is with the view system. If (0,0,0) is the nose, then all the external views will center around the nose. [...] You wrote pretty much the same as Jim, but you obviously

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ Sent: 04 August 2004 14:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh! * Jim Wilson -- Wednesday 04 August 2004 15:28: Melchior FRANZ said: The only difference is JSBSim has the extra feature of specifying the VRP

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ Sent: 04 August 2004 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh! * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 04 August 2004 16:50: Well, I don't know. I've just flown it using a recent CVS download. It looked really good to me.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: Did you put the target offset in the right place, in the right file? I think so, yes. (Well, I hope so, at least. :-) Can you post what you have, with the model fixed and the target-offsets in, etc? Best, Jim ___

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote Sent: 04 August 2004 19:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Maik Justus Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh! * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 04 August 2004 19:15: Yes, see what you mean, but I think we went through all this with fixed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 04 August 2004 22:35: I think all views are fine, although view 2 is a bit disconcerting or even a bit disorientating. This seems to be a view-based issue. I'm convinced that the aircraft is rotating appoximately around it's cofg. This is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: yasim + bo105 + vrp + @#%$#@ == argh!

2004-08-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 23:04:16 +0200 Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea. I'll try that. Thanks. Get some sleep, first !! :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel