Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
James Sleeman wrote Hi Maik, Maik Justus wrote: the effect you are discussing is not the Doppler effect, but just the Yes, I know it's not a function of the Doppler itself, but I was thinking more along the lines of the volume drop off, if it were better, might help the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Maik Justus
Hello, James Sleeman schrieb am 22.01.2009 01:14: Hi Maik, ... Just to clarify on the reference-dist, is it that this value is a diminishing effect, that is for reference-dist of 1 after distance 1 the volume is half original, after distance 2 the volume is 1/4 original (half of a half),

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Maik Justus schrieb am 22.01.2009 13:45: Hello, James Sleeman schrieb am 22.01.2009 01:14: Hi Maik, ... Just to clarify on the reference-dist, is it that this value is a diminishing effect, that is for reference-dist of 1 after distance 1 the volume is half original, after distance 2

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Vivian, Vivian Meazza schrieb am 22.01.2009 11:17: I would think that the attenuation of sound in air is amenable to mathematical calculation. Yes it is. (at lest if your distance to the sound source is large compared to the size of the source). Surely we shouldn't be guessing at some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Maik Justus -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Vivian Meazza schrieb am 22.01.2009 11:17: I would think that the attenuation of sound in air is amenable to mathematical calculation. Yes it is. But it depends on the frequency pattern, no? So we'd need to analyze the spectrum ... time to use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume * Maik Justus -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Vivian Meazza schrieb am 22.01.2009 11:17: I would think that the attenuation of sound in air is amenable to mathematical calculation. Yes it is. But it depends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Melchior FRANZ I don't see any particular merit is setting the value in preferences.xml, but it would be nice if the default values worked as designed, no matter where they are set. It's always nice to have default values changeable, rather than

[Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-21 Thread James Sleeman
The doppler effect (which I currently have working through the USE_SOFTWARE_DOPPLER define) has never sounded very real to my ear. Recently I've wondered if it might be to do with the volume dropoff not being enough. It's hard to subjectively quantify the dropoff in the flyby, but for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-21 Thread Maik Justus
Hi James, the effect you are discussing is not the Doppler effect, but just the volume as a function of the distance. Every aircraft has its own sound definition including the distance, where the volume is halved (reference-dist) and the distance where the volume is cutted off (max-dist). The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-21 Thread James Sleeman
Hi Maik, Maik Justus wrote: the effect you are discussing is not the Doppler effect, but just the Yes, I know it's not a function of the Doppler itself, but I was thinking more along the lines of the volume drop off, if it were better, might help the convincingness of the Doppler, if you