Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2013-02-09 Thread Ron Jensen
On Saturday 08 December 2012 12:12:23 Ron Jensen wrote: > I took a quick look through the FGData Aircraft directory today and came up > with a list of some 27 JSBSim piston engines that still seem to be using > either the old aeromatic default values for idle manifold pressure (minmp) > or suspicio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 13:49:51 Eric van den Berg wrote: > So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. Piston engines are basically air pumps. We currently calculate power by dividing the mass fuel flow by the user-entered bsfc multiply by correction factors for mixture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 13:49:51 Eric van den Berg wrote: > So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. Piston engines are basically air pumps. We currently calculate power by dividing the mass fuel flow by the user-entered bsfc multiply by correction factors for mixture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
So it is kind of modelled like an air pump. Interesting method. BTW p0 =101325 Pa R = 287.05 Cp_air = 1004.68 gamma = 1.4 Handbook of Aviation fuel properties, third edition: net heat of combustion of AVGAS, all grades : min. 43.5 MJ/kg, 44 typical density of AVGAS: 710 at 15degC C_p_AVGAS = 2.06

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 09:46:10 Eric van den Berg wrote: > I see. > Looking at the code (I think) I can see you are trying calculate the > pressure losses in the injector/throttle valve, "airbox" and inlet tubes. > Using throttle position and engine speed (was expecting cylinder > displacement

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
nics.com > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:20:23 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle > > On Tuesday 11 December 2012 00:55:35 Eric van den Berg wrote: > > Ron, > > > > From experience: the lyco I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 00:55:35 Eric van den Berg wrote: > Ron, > > From experience: the lyco IO540 idles at 14-15 inHG, 900RPM (MT-prop with > P-880-xx governor) > > Eric > Thanks Eric, The JSBSim piston engine model is missing something, probably Mach effect through the intake valve, so m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-11 Thread Eric van den Berg
Ron, >From experience: the lyco IO540 idles at 14-15 inHG, 900RPM (MT-prop with >P-880-xx governor) Eric > From: w...@jentronics.com > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 12:12:23 -0700 > CC: jsbsim-de...@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Piston Engine Idle

2012-12-10 Thread Torsten Dreyer
I'd be grateful for an update of the Dragonfly and the ogeL. The Dragonfly's configuration was a wild guess, and only very vaguely based on real numbers. ogeL's engine is by definition just fantasy ;-) Thanks, Torsten Am 08.12.2012 20:12, schrieb Ron Jensen: > I took a quick look through the FG