Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes

2007-10-25 Thread Torsten Dreyer
C-like in many ways. Probably the biggest barrier for most people is going to be getting their development system setup properly so they can compile their new code additions or changes. I sort of disagree here. Setting up a development system is not a big deal (even I managed to do it, so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes

2007-10-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Torsten Dreyer -- Thursday 25 October 2007: To make things easier for developers, can we think of a plug-in system for callbacks so a potential developer write a library that is linked in dynamically by the flightgear core? No. That would mean to add and maintain plug-in loader code for all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes

2007-10-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Sent: 25 October 2007 14:10 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes * Torsten Dreyer -- Thursday 25 October 2007: To make things easier for developers, can we think of a plug-in system for callbacks so a

[Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub Back Seat Driver

2007-10-25 Thread Hans Fugal
Would it be possible to change the default position for the j3cub to sitting in the front seat instead of the back seat? That would make the instruments (especially the compass) actually readable. Maybe have a second -set file for back seat drivers? -- Hans Fugal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub Back Seat Driver

2007-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Why not ad a second view, from where you can fly the aircraft? Better than two -set.xml-files... HHS --- Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Would it be possible to change the default position for the j3cub to sitting in the front seat instead of the back seat? That would make the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub Back Seat Driver

2007-10-25 Thread Hans Fugal
Ah, I didn't realize you started there for weight/balance reasons. I thought it was just someone's preference. Definitely don't change it then. That mouse trick is nice. I wonder if it is really that hard to see the compass in the real plane. Maybe so, but combined with the small size and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub Back Seat Driver

2007-10-25 Thread David Megginson
On 25/10/2007, Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it is really that hard to see the compass in the real plane. Maybe so, but combined with the small size and the various reasons why it's hard to make out the magnetic compass in FG even at regular size I have to think maybe it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positioning Point of View and controlling direction I look

2007-10-25 Thread Hans Fugal
I just tried this (plib version) and get this error Nasal runtime error: No such member: getValue at ./fgd/Nasal/view.nas, line 95 called from: /input/keyboard/key[86]/binding, line 1 And a useless view. Replacing the original view (without n=100) works fine. On 10/24/07, Jon Stockill

[Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub rerigged (was Re: J3 Cub Back Seat Driver)

2007-10-25 Thread David Megginson
Since I came back to FlightGear a few weeks ago, I've flown the J3 Cub mainly with the mouse (for short breaks from work), so I hadn't noticed how badly out of trim the plane has been flying. I've just checked in changes to fix the (non-adjustable) rudder and aileron trim to get rid of the strong

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub rerigged (was Re: J3 Cub Back Seat Driver)

2007-10-25 Thread Hans Fugal
Thanks! You mention the nonadjustable rudder and aileron trim - is that nonadjustable in theory only or does flightgear also enforce this? If not, can it be made to? It wasn't clear from the j3cub.xml file. On 10/25/07, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I came back to FlightGear a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub rerigged (was Re: J3 Cub Back Seat Driver)

2007-10-25 Thread David Megginson
On 25/10/2007, Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! You mention the nonadjustable rudder and aileron trim - is that nonadjustable in theory only or does flightgear also enforce this? If not, can it be made to? It wasn't clear from the j3cub.xml file. You can adjust it in flight if you

[Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hello, Me, Aeortro and maybe some ohthers noticed a problem with fgfs. With the builts from 10/24/2007 and 10/05/2007 in both branches OSG and plib FGFS shut down while intializing subsystems. There are no error messages in the shell and no on the win32 eventmanager... Does anyone else have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Heiko On Thursday 25 October 2007 20:20, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hello, Me, Aeortro and maybe some ohthers noticed a problem with fgfs. With the builts from 10/24/2007 and 10/05/2007 in both branches OSG and plib FGFS shut down while intializing subsystems. There are no error messages in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Durk, Yes, I used the windows version. I checked the data - always matching. I checked this first. On the version 10/05/2007 it was like an old car - sometimes it started, sometimes not or after several trying. Note, that is was even mentioned on a fedora system:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Durk, Yes, I used the windows version. I checked the data - always matching. I checked this first. On the version 10/05/2007 it was like an old car - sometimes it started, sometimes not or after several trying. Note, that is was even mentioned on a fedora system:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Thursday 25 October 2007: With the interval timing bug solved, we could consider opening up the discussion for a new release again. Yes, it's really *high* time. But what's with the plib release? I would have liked to make fgfs depend on 1.8.5. This fixes a bug with font

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 25 October 2007 19:44:54 Melchior FRANZ wrote: Yes, it's really *high* time. But what's with the plib release? I would have liked to make fgfs depend on 1.8.5. This fixes a bug with font colors in list widgets (property browser!) and other stuff. Wouldn't it be a bit excessive to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AJ MacLeod -- Thursday 25 October 2007: Wouldn't it be a bit excessive to make fgfs DEPEND on 1.8.5, No. It's statically linked, and 99 percent of the users use compiled binaries (number made up). The 1 percent can be asked to download the latest stable release. The broken version 1.8.4 makes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 25 October 2007 20:44, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Durk Talsma -- Thursday 25 October 2007: With the interval timing bug solved, we could consider opening up the discussion for a new release again. Yes, it's really *high* time. But what's with the plib release? I would have liked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems on win32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Thursday 25 October 2007: Probably the best course of action is to send a friendly reminder to the plib list, and if it doesn't happen again, stick to plan B. Yes, but I won't do that. I did it on 2007/04/02, and the question remained unanswered. The last posting before that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub rerigged (was Re: J3 Cub Back Seat Driver)

2007-10-25 Thread Hans Fugal
On 10/25/07, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/10/2007, Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! You mention the nonadjustable rudder and aileron trim - is that nonadjustable in theory only or does flightgear also enforce this? If not, can it be made to? It wasn't clear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Heiko Schulz Sent: 25 October 2007 19:21 To: FGFS Developers Mail List Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64 Hello, Me, Aeortro and maybe some ohthers noticed a problem with fgfs. With the builts from 10/24/2007 and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J3 Cub rerigged (was Re: J3 Cub Back Seat Driver)

2007-10-25 Thread David Megginson
On 25/10/2007, Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can adjust it in flight if you bind some keys to the trim properties, but it would be pretty unrealistic -- I doubt that any J3 Cub has ever had rudder or aileron trim. Or have a joystick. Actually, the J3 does use a stick instead of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Thomas
On 10/25/07, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heiko Schulz Sent: 25 October 2007 19:21 To: FGFS Developers Mail List Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64 Hello, Me, Aeortro and maybe some ohthers noticed a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, I'm not sure but I'm think the problem is maybe in WinCVS. Today I noticed that the CH47 was not quite uploaded. The ac.model was missing though Syd had uploaded 3h before Maybe I have to try the TortoiseCVS... HHS --- Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On 10/25/07, Vivian Meazza

Re: [Flightgear-devel] backtrace dump

2007-10-25 Thread Robert Black
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 11:57, Tobias Nielsen wrote: Okay, here is one gigantic file dump... Be awere that i have added a few extra lines of debug since i wanted to try to locate the problem. But i assume that you will be able to see your way out of it..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unknown failure while Initializing subsystems onwin32 and Fedora 7 x86_64

2007-10-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Friday 26 October 2007 00:01, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi, I'm not sure but I'm think the problem is maybe in WinCVS. Today I noticed that the CH47 was not quite uploaded. The ac.model was missing though Syd had uploaded 3h before Maybe I have to try the TortoiseCVS... Could be well