Re: [Flightgear-devel] I am going to terminate mpserver04
At Tuesday 04 March 2008 18:25:02 Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Pietro wrote: and Oliver wrote: The server forwards all packets to every directly connected clients (ie. users) and every server it knows about. I agree with 'the nature of the beast', as LeeE stated. Server acting as mery packet relay can't do more. Server should act as packet filtering relay, for ex. if I'm flying over south Italy, all San Francisco zone traffic info are of no interest for me. So IMHO we need no universal servers but zone servers. Theoretically if no player connected to Europe zone server is flying over North America and no player connected to North America zone server is flying over Europe, these two servers have no need to communicate each other. The mpservers already do a simple form of distance based filtering: 1. Server to directly connected clients: An mpserver only relay data to (its local) clients within 50nm of the source. 2. Inter-server relaying. Data from a local client is only relayed at full speed to those mpservers that have clients within 50nm of the source. The data feed to other mpservers is reduced to about one packet per second (the rest from that client are not relayed). The reduced rate relay is need to keep all mpservers informed about all players. Of course, since nearly all MP activity occurs with 50nm of KSFO these measures have a limited effect. But still, mpserver06 has a much lower bandwidth usage than e.g. 02 thanks to few local clients and this scheme. Cheers, Anders Ah, nice to know it. I didn't see sources and doc isn't talking about it. Regards, Pietro - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for the webpage JS menu
* Sven Almgren -- Wednesday 05 March 2008: I don't run emacs (read, don't have it..:P) Any other diff you'd like instead? the output of the submit program? No, Curt didn't mean that you should install emacs (puke!) and create a diff with it. He wants you to send him the concerned files with all changes as a *whole*. But note that Curt is the only one here (I think) with this bizarre preference. Everyone else prefers diffs. And especially when posted to the list patches are IMHO a requirement, as one can't do any reasonable public code review on the whole file. (Robert from OSG also wants whole files, and I think that as good as nobody makes code review on the osg-submissions mailing list, as it's rather painful to find the few changed lines in a 100 kB source file. :-} m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for the webpage JS menu
I don't run emacs (read, don't have it..:P) Any other diff you'd like instead? the output of the submit program? Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Sven, Sorry for the slow reply. I like to copies of the whole file when possible ... especially for something like this ... I like to run emacs ediff so I can examine the two versions side by side. Best regards, Curt. 2008/2/27 Sven Almgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: from cvs diff -uN in the www module This diff will also add a href links to menu items, enabling users to open new tabs/windows from the menu items Also, how do you want your patches? (I did cvs diff in the www root...) /Sven - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] mpservers and mpserver04 FORWARDING - Future MOVIES to come!
Hi Just a Note regarding mpserver04 After discussing with Curt and pigeon my Server is no longer a Public Server on ports 5000 - so any other mpservers that currently forward to my machine on port 5000 you will need to edit your server to not forward data on 5000 this should free up resorces, CVS 5002 is still active. You can of course still forward to 87.127.199.12. but only on port 5002 CVS so that when pilots participating in movie making exploits they can still view in mpmap otherwise they will be blind to where aircraft / vehicles are! I have thought about using different ports and making it totally private or independant but this would mean that no one could view the location of any aircraft on my server via mpmap, so for the time being it is just a quick fix until we can work out a better way. I am planning more movies in the very near future, and my server is now running only on CVS 5002 for when collaberating with others during making the movie scenes, this I hope will minimise stutter, loss of fps, and make it easier to plan the movie scenes. Curt has changed the server name to be more specific about it's new intention it is now called: mibsmovieset.flightgear.org which is of coarse @ 87.127.199.12 WHY? In view of the increasing heavy traffic on the public servers mine became a bottle kneck which of course is not an issue when running only as an aid for making movies with just 2 or 3 people involved - and with less chance of pilots joining or leaving constantly that may otherwise cause disruptions and some problems with freezes and dropped frames, while filming at KSFO especially - this was a problem during heavy traffic. I would be interested in any volunteers that will be willing to join in when I start to make part 4 of the Oleg Movie, I have a few scenes I want to shoot from a remote vantage point using the MIBS tool such as AJ's Duplo Car driving past (To Be Done In Germany near EDDI) , some Aircraft scenes including some video of the Russian SU-37 in attack mode, I want to be able to film this from a Ground vantage point as well as in the cockpit. I am just finalising my Script for the scenes I want to shoot for the next 10 minute episode of OLeg's Adventures part 4 So if anyonewants to partake please let me know! All The Best - Aerotro For those not familiar with the earlier movies here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/user/aerotro The Last Episode so far was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5KI47GfjQs Online FlightGear Simulator Tracker Page. http://mpserver04.flightgear.org http://www.flightgear.org- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for the webpage JS menu
How about just zip up whole copies of the files that were changed? That would work perfectly for me. Thanks, Curt. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Sven Almgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't run emacs (read, don't have it..:P) Any other diff you'd like instead? the output of the submit program? Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Sven, Sorry for the slow reply. I like to copies of the whole file when possible ... especially for something like this ... I like to run emacs ediff so I can examine the two versions side by side. Best regards, Curt. 2008/2/27 Sven Almgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: from cvs diff -uN in the www module This diff will also add a href links to menu items, enabling users to open new tabs/windows from the menu items Also, how do you want your patches? (I did cvs diff in the www root...) /Sven - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear getting copied in real life
Unbelievable, when crossing EDDW runway yesterday morning I saw that they are copying Curtis idea http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/SnowPlog/SnowPlowEDDW.png making a snow-plog race :-) Georg EDDW - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear getting copied in real life
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Georg Vollnhals wrote: Unbelievable, when crossing EDDW runway yesterday morning I saw that they are copying Curtis idea http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/SnowPlog/SnowPlowEDDW.png making a snow-plow race :-) Snow removal at airports is definitely an important activity. You don't want the plows tearing up the lights or signs. You don't want the plow drivers going on the wrong taxiway or crossing an active runway ... and the plows are often out when the visibility and conditions are the worst (and thus the easiest for making navigation mistakes) not to mention the long hours and late nights they may put in when a major snow storm blows through the area. How does a plow driver know where they are at when the surface is covered in snow? BTW, speaking of ways to get around in the snow ... I snapped this picture of my dogs this afternoon and thought it turned out pretty nifty. (Sorry, way off topic, but it is sort of snow related ...) http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/KenaiMia.jpg Here's a picture of what happens when Kenai get's a little out of line. Mia (female) knows how to put him in his place ... (which is similar to what happens when I get out of line around the house here.) http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/Photos/Kenai/Mia/Source/Playing-3.jpg Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
