Re: [Flightgear-devel] view manager news & "fly by view"

2007-05-04 Thread Josh Babcock
gh.robin wrote:
> On Fri 4 May 2007 22:09, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>> Today I have reorganized the  handling and added a new
>> view mode. It's still work in progress, but looks quite nice
>> already:  "Fly-By View"  This picks a view position somewhere
>> ahead and lets the aircraft fly by, then searches a new position
>> etc. Nice for replay, or for experiencing how fast the aircraft
>> actually flies. (From cockpit view it looks always slow. ;-)
>> I still need to tweak the parameters and to prevent updates
>> when the aircraft has barely moved.
>>
>>
> SNIP
>> m.
>>
> If my understanding is right,
> I guess that tool will be useful when , during model devel, we try to  tune 
> complexe animations, (survey/observation  from to a specific  point )
> 

Cool, I've wanted this for a long time. Now if I can only find some time
to use it. Speaking of which, I am seriously committed to going to
medical school in about 2 years, so really expect me to drop off the
face of the earth until about 2012 or so. For anyone with serious
interest in the B-29, Canberra, CH-53e or anything else I have done I
will be happy to send you the gimp and blend files plus all my research
material.

Josh

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[Flightgear-devel] osg material animaton

2007-05-04 Thread Tim Moore
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The attached patch fixes material animations (color in particular) in
osg. I also notice a big frame rate increase with aircraft that use
material animations.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view manager news & "fly by view"

2007-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 04 May 2007:
> "Fly-By View"  This picks a view position somewhere
> ahead and lets the aircraft fly by, then searches a new position
> etc.

* gh.robin -- Friday 04 May 2007:
> If my understanding is right,
> I guess that tool will be useful when , during model devel, we
> try totune complexe animations, (survey/observation  from to a
> specific  point

Can certainly be used for that, but it's not really meant to be
useful for anything but for looking nice. For specific needs it's
probably better to write a separate  entry and to copy
and modify the view.flyby container. The whole logic is in there.

BTW: this does also use the new "terrain-elevation" fgcommand,
to make sure the view position is never under terrain.  :-)



> To select a view with particular node index (e.g. the
> aircraft's , one can write that as negative number:
> 
>   setprop("/sim/current-view/view-number", -100);

The best way is probably to forget about those numbers, and to
address the view by name, for example via hash:

  var view = {};
  var nodes = props.globals.getNode("/sim").getChildren("view");
  forindex (var i; nodes)
  view[nodes[i].getNode("name").getValue()] = i;

  setprop("/sim/current-view/view-number", view["Copilot View"]);

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view manager news & "fly by view"

2007-05-04 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 4 May 2007 22:09, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> Today I have reorganized the  handling and added a new
> view mode. It's still work in progress, but looks quite nice
> already:  "Fly-By View"  This picks a view position somewhere
> ahead and lets the aircraft fly by, then searches a new position
> etc. Nice for replay, or for experiencing how fast the aircraft
> actually flies. (From cockpit view it looks always slow. ;-)
> I still need to tweak the parameters and to prevent updates
> when the aircraft has barely moved.
>
>
SNIP
>
> m.
>
If my understanding is right,
I guess that tool will be useful when , during model devel, we try to  tune 
complexe animations, (survey/observation  from to a specific  point )

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[Flightgear-devel] Flash2a patch

2007-05-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All,

I have a new patch available for the flash2a, including:
- Improved FDM. Now much closer to the real thing.
- Handling notes for transitioning 3-axis pilots
- Chrome animation on appropriate metal-work
- Flexwing microlight specific CH pro-pedal bindings.

Available from:

http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/flash2a.tar.bz2

Enjoy!

-Stuart



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[Flightgear-devel] view manager news & "fly by view"

2007-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Today I have reorganized the  handling and added a new
view mode. It's still work in progress, but looks quite nice
already:  "Fly-By View"  This picks a view position somewhere
ahead and lets the aircraft fly by, then searches a new position
etc. Nice for replay, or for experiencing how fast the aircraft
actually flies. (From cockpit view it looks always slow. ;-)
I still need to tweak the parameters and to prevent updates
when the aircraft has barely moved.

The reorganization part was desirable, because until today
the different s had to have continuous indices. When
FlightGear predefined  to , then
aircraft had to continue with . A lot of aircraft
did that, but whenever one removed or added a generic view,
all aircraft  definitions had to be moved, which was
a huge PITA.

Now indices of  definitions can be freely assigned. To
avoid further, unnecessary collisions, I "suggest" (well,
*demand* :-) that aircraft use indices starting with 100,
leaving 0..99 for the "system". (Remember that you don't
have to specify the index in every definition. Setting n="100"
in one will automatically set the next to 101 etc., unless
otherwise specified.

I've also made a minor change to the way numbers are interpreted
when written to /sim/current-view/view-number: 0 and positive
numbers are treated like they used to, so everything works like
before: they select the (n-1)th . But now that holes
are allowed, this does no longer necessarily match the node
index. To select a view with particular node index (e.g. the
aircraft's , one can write that as negative number:

  setprop("/sim/current-view/view-number", -100);

This will, of course, immediately be turned into the normal
index (let's say 6), I expect that everyone forgets this feature
quickly, and that nobody  uses it, except maybe a few notorious
C++ code readers.  ;-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] framerate hesitations...

2007-05-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,

Have the same problems - turning off the AI can't
really help.

But interesting what the console showed. I get this:

"Warning:: Picked up error in TriangeIntersect
<0.0332598 -0.05056 4.73833, -0.0349611 -0.118436
4.51443, 0.0332598 -0.146551 4.51443> 
<1.#QNAN, 1.#QNAN1.#QNAN>"

This lines are repeating in somewhat speed and causing
pauses until 5 secs and more.

I can't say when it appears - it seems to live his own
life.

What's this?

Windows XP, Compilation from 04.18.2007, OSG

HHS





--- leee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> On Tuesday 01 May 2007 14:04, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > * Harald JOHNSEN -- Tuesday 01 May 2007:
> > > lower, and the duration of the pause is higher,
> also the
> > > strange thing is that the pause overlaps above a
> few frame.
> >
> > I strongly suspect that this is exactly the
> problem that I had
> >
> > already described on 2006/02/25, so it's a rather
> old bug:
> > | [...] I fly in the bay area with AI turned on,
> then
> > | fgfs starts to freeze in regular intervals after
> a few minutes
> > | (intervals ~8 seconds, freeze time increases
> from ~0.1 to ~0.5
> > | seconds over time). Needless to say that I don't
> turn AI on there.
> > | I haven't seen those AI freezes elsewhere.
> >
> > Back then I seemed to be the only one who saw it,
> and while
> > turning AI off did indeed help, I'm not sure if it
> was the cause.
> > Maybe it just avoided some timing problem that's
> really caused
> > by something else. (The Nasal listener logging
> that I added
> > a few days ago was also to investigate that
> problem, but they
> > apparently aren't involved.)
> >
> > m.
> 
> I'm wondering if this might be similar to the
> problems I was having with the 
> SU-37 back in December 2006 (the postings are
> between the 8th and the 16th).
> 
> The symptoms sound identical.
> 
> At the time, I was using a lot of listeners to
> implement stick de-coupling and 
> I had also duplicated a noise-spike filter in the
> A/P.  Rewriting to reduce 
> the number of listeners and remove the duplicated
> filter seemed to cure the 
> problem.  However, a clear definitive cause for the
> problem was never found 
> and the A/P subsequently suffered from inconsistent
> timing issues and PID 
> controllers refusing to work until reset, so there
> may have been a wider 
> problem.
> 
> LeeE
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frame rates

2007-05-04 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 4 May 2007 08:52, Martin Spott wrote:
> John Wojnaroski wrote:
> > Is there any info/data on FG frame rates with OSG vis-a-vis previous
> > plib versions running on comparable hardware?
>
> The last time when I compared FlightGear with PLIB scenegraph against
> OpenSceneGraph, is several several months behind. With close to default
> settings (I don't remember the details any more) I got almost the same
> FPS numbers at the standard location using the standard aircraft - with
> a slight plus for OSG. That was on AMD64, Radeon X800 and ATI's closed
> source driver 8.28.8 (the one that comes with Debian Etch),
>
>   Martin.

I usualy , build both FG osg   and G plib from the same release, mainly to 
check the model compatibility during development.
i can confirm the Martin remark: olders fg osg  and fg plib where giving 
almost the same performances.
It seems recently (but unfortunately i cannot say exactly when,  end of 
february ?)  we have lost that performance regarding fg osg.

As i said in my previous mail i now get a difference ratio  of 2.5  which is 
very important :(

Regards

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] German FTP service downtime

2007-05-04 Thread Martin Spott
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 01:50:53PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:

> due to power outage this saturday, the server that provides
> ftp.de.[flight,sim,terra]gear.org alias ftp.[ihg.]uni-duisburg.de is
> supposed to be offline from approx. 05:00 to 13:00 UTC.

Sorry, the central switch at this location will aready get shut down
today, friday at 15:00 UTC - the respective maintainer is unwilling to
interrupt his weekend for this 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] limited flap usage

2007-05-04 Thread Nick Warne
On Friday 04 May 2007 13:28:15 Detlef Faber wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 04.05.2007, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Markus Zojer:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > Just discovered that flaps seem to be usable just for 1 time, it's
> > possible to extend and to retract but then they refuse any further
> > commands via keyboard. Can anyone verify this?
>
> I had the same problem on my notebook. I don't think it is a flightgear
> bug, as my desktop PC works fine wit the same CVS Checkout. Suspected an
> SDL Problem, but The versions are the same on both PCs. I will test
> again once I got my notebook up and running again (failed gcc upgrade).

I have seen this, but thought it was some sort of confusion as I raise/lower 
flaps using a JS button - and then the keyboard toggle keys get out of sync 
and it all stops working...

...or so I thought.

I will have to test again.

Nick

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] limited flap usage

2007-05-04 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Freitag, den 04.05.2007, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Markus Zojer:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> Just discovered that flaps seem to be usable just for 1 time, it's 
> possible to extend and to retract but then they refuse any further 
> commands via keyboard. Can anyone verify this?

I had the same problem on my notebook. I don't think it is a flightgear
bug, as my desktop PC works fine wit the same CVS Checkout. Suspected an
SDL Problem, but The versions are the same on both PCs. I will test
again once I got my notebook up and running again (failed gcc upgrade). 

> I am using a 2 week old OSG/cvs build of flightgear and tested 
> jsbsim(c130) and yasim(b-52) aircraft.
> 
> c u,
> markus
> 

Greetings

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] German FTP service downtime

2007-05-04 Thread Martin Spott
Hi,
due to power outage this saturday, the server that provides
ftp.de.[flight,sim,terra]gear.org alias ftp.[ihg.]uni-duisburg.de is
supposed to be offline from approx. 05:00 to 13:00 UTC. The next short
outage, this time for the purpose of RAM expansion will follow in the
not so distant future  :-)

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[Flightgear-devel] limited flap usage

2007-05-04 Thread Markus Zojer
Hi everyone!

Just discovered that flaps seem to be usable just for 1 time, it's 
possible to extend and to retract but then they refuse any further 
commands via keyboard. Can anyone verify this?
I am using a 2 week old OSG/cvs build of flightgear and tested 
jsbsim(c130) and yasim(b-52) aircraft.

c u,
markus


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[Flightgear-devel] variable

2007-05-04 Thread benoit mouton hubert
Good morning,
I would to know more informations on the operation of variables. Variables 
are really in file.xml ??? or  it's only a link to take the real variable.
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[Flightgear-devel] problem nasal thread

2007-05-04 Thread benoit mouton hubert
Good morning,
I have a problem with the nasal code, I can't use a function newthread. Can 
you send me syntax please.
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