Re: [Flightgear-devel] landing gear control

2007-12-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 06:15:49 SydSandy wrote: Can we add a /controls/gear/gear-lever-lock to prevent accidental raising gear while on the ground , on aircraft that have this feature ? The key bindings can be over ridden , but there's also joystick configurations to consider

[Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, The latest and greatest chat menu system is now available. I have added a couple of new features and fixed a number of bugs: - The chat menu automagically creates messages that include the nearest airport, the current runway in use (based on the current weather conditions), and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch to use OpenSceneGraph database pager

2007-12-05 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tim Moore wrote: Hello, http://www.bricoworks.com/moore/0001-OSG-pager-megapatch.patch is a patch against current flightgear that uses the OSG database pager to load scenery tiles instead of the old tile loader. The main advantage of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Dienstag, den 04.12.2007, 22:46 +0100 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: * Durk Talsma -- Tuesday 04 December 2007: data/Aircraft/737-300 \ Yes, I'd swap that with the 787. A flat panel that disappears when you look left/right is hard to bear. (Though I miss a VOR display on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: I believe recent enhancements and fixes in JSBSim may have fixed the F-16, but I'm not sure. Well, not in FlightGear's CVS, though it may have improved a bit. BTW: I reported that problem a least

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: I wonder if it is a platform-specific issue? Extremely unlikely. But this could play a role: my js has the centering spring deactivated. So, when I have the f16 parked, this is often with elevator

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: If the F16 is broken now it should not be included. It shouldn't be hard for someone with some JSBSim insight to fix it. When I told Dave about the problem, he suggested to replace the elevator FCS part by the one of the 737, and this did indeed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
About f16-3d I just tried again it, flying with it 15 minutes over the Mediterranean sea from LFTH, i did not notice the problems you have. I confirm that it is a nice Model to fly, probably easier than the real one. Does it mean that the computer configuration is involved ? the FDM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Don't we have to take care, and to keep a balance like it was before ? You mean, we have to ship FlightGear v1.0 with as many broken aircraft as working ones, for balancing reasons? :-} m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Detlef Faber -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Am Dienstag, den 04.12.2007, 22:46 +0100 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: Hmm ... it's well done and all, but I think it's too realistic, read: too hard to take off/land due to the very narrow gear. Well, that's how an aircraft with 1700 hp and a wing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: my js has the centering spring deactivated. [...] Of course, I expect now someone to point out that most people don't have their springs removed, so we can ship the f16 as is. And I can't even disagree ... strongly. :-) m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: I wonder if it is a platform-specific issue? Extremely unlikely. But this could play a role: my js has the centering spring deactivated. So, when I have the f16 parked, this is often with elevator and ailerons fully applied in one direction. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fi-156 Storch

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mar 4 décembre 2007, Ron Jensen wrote: I haven't made much time lately for this project... If someone with write access would like to put this aircraft into CVS, they have my permission. I'm been meaning to have it put in... Ron Jensen Because i love it (and i have cvs access), I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fi-156 Storch

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Ron Jensen wrote: On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 14:50 +0100, gerard robin wrote: On mar 4 décembre 2007, Ron Jensen wrote: I haven't made much time lately for this project... If someone with write access would like to put this aircraft into CVS, they have my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
* Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: If the F16 is broken now it should not be included. It shouldn't be hard for someone with some JSBSim insight to fix it. When I told Dave about the problem, he suggested to replace the elevator FCS part by the one of the 737, and this did

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dual head problem

2007-12-05 Thread jean pellotier
Hi, that would be fine if i coud have the files, i think i can set up X, but i need things to tell OSG witch screen to use, it always use the fist one, and sometimes i woul'd like to run FG on the smaller screen. thanks for the answers. John Wojnaroski a écrit : Hi, OK, I've just starting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] control trim reset

2007-12-05 Thread John Denker
On 12/04/2007 11:26 PM, SydSandy wrote: Hi all , I've added the elevator, aileron and rudder trim to the control-centering function - keypad ( 5 ). Should this be added before the release ? Or is there a particular reason that the trims aren't reset ? There is _some_ merit to this idea, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dual head problem

2007-12-05 Thread jean pellotier
Anders Gidenstam a écrit : Hi, I think the previous proposal was to reconfigure X to see both screens as one big X screen (e.g as NVidia TwinView does). I don't have the same resolution on the two screens, that's why I use dual head display. (1280x1024 and 1024x768) However, it would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] control trim reset

2007-12-05 Thread SydSandy
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:21:45 - Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Denker Sent: 05 December 2007 16:43 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] control trim reset On 12/04/2007 11:26 PM, SydSandy wrote: Hi all , I've added the

[Flightgear-devel] F-16

2007-12-05 Thread Berndt, Jon S
There has been some discussion of the F-16 working badly. I took another look at it over lunch. I think I have found one bug (which is not to say, the only bug). There are several integrators used in the control laws. These should have wind-up protection set up (which they don't). But, apart from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-10 help dialog and manual on the wiki

2007-12-05 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Curtis Olson wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 7:49 AM, alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The A-10 is now so feature rich that a comprehensive help/manual wouldn't fit in a single dialog. Readme files could help but they lake of graphics. So I started to use the wiki as the main

Re: [Flightgear-devel] control trim reset

2007-12-05 Thread John Denker
Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part; ... (not that I use it very often) ... On 12/05/2007 02:59 PM, SydSandy wrote: ok that answers my question I thought it was more a user option to center joystick , etc... Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought 5 was a mouse-only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dual head problem

2007-12-05 Thread Guillaume CHAUVAT
jean pellotier a crit: Anders Gidenstam a crit : However, it would not be good if FlightGear/OSG cannot be instructed which X screen to start on. Have you tried setting DISPLAY ? yes I did, setting DISPLAY to :0.1 other programs work but not FG-cvs-OSG, i will try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Stuart, I can't quite get out of the starting gate with this. Preferences.xmlreferences files in the ATC subdir, but the tar.gz puts this all in the chatmenu subdir. And even when I try to patch up the paths, I get a Dialog: chat-menu not defined when I try to bring up the dialog box. So

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Well osgviewer got other key issues as mentioned earlier on both -devel [...] and sdl got problems with non-US keyboard layouts. Unlikely. I doubt that Swedish keyboards are so special. German keyboards have that AltGr abomination as well, and I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16

2007-12-05 Thread Anders Gidenstam
I did a valgrind run on 'JSBSim --script=scripts/f16_runway_test.xml' since missing initializations has caused unpredictable errors before. It doesn't look too bad - there are a few hits in FGFilter (but in the Debug() function) and one in FGLGear and one in FGTurbine - I think these warrant

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: We should first decide what keys are reserved for user, I used - locally so I need to know what is now free instead. At least leave _ free then... All mod-meta and mod-super combinations are free. A few hundred free keys ought to be enough for anybody

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Melchior FRANZ wrote: All mod-meta and mod-super combinations are free. I don't have any of those keys on my keyboard... Most PC keyboards don't On the contrary: most have them. There's a burning flag on them. Not that they work with obsolete glut

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I don't have any of those keys on my keyboard... Most PC keyboards don't Melchior FRANZ wrote: * AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: We should first decide what keys are reserved for user, I used - locally so I need to know what is now free

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-10 help dialog and manual on the wiki

2007-12-05 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 5, 2007 7:49 AM, alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The A-10 is now so feature rich that a comprehensive help/manual wouldn't fit in a single dialog. Readme files could help but they lake of graphics. So I started to use the wiki as the main help source. So now the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fi-156 Storch

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Only waiting an agreement from one of these persons . Go ahead. I'd like to have that, too. :-) m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Don't we have to take care, and to keep a balance like it was before ? You mean, we have to ship FlightGear v1.0 with as many broken aircraft as working ones, for balancing reasons? :-} m. Broken

Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Berndt, Jon S wrote: There has been some discussion of the F-16 working badly. I took another look at it over lunch. I think I have found one bug (which is not to say, the only bug). There are several integrators used in the control laws. These should have wind-up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Yes, the selection should be balanced. A representative of every class that the users would be interested in, especially well done ones (with 3D cockpit) that don't consume excessive disk space, but more importantly: download volume. And they should be flyable, too. I couldn't care less

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: You mean, we have to ship FlightGear v1.0 with as many broken aircraft as working ones, for balancing reasons? :-} Broken ??? I don't understand, these aircraft are not broken. That was just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Melchior FRANZ wrote: * AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Well osgviewer got other key issues as mentioned earlier on both -devel [...] and sdl got problems with non-US keyboard layouts. Unlikely. I doubt that Swedish keyboards are so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: I believe recent enhancements and fixes in JSBSim may have fixed the F-16, but I'm not sure. Well, not in FlightGear's CVS, though it may have improved a bit. BTW: I reported that problem a least twice to Erik and once to Dave. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-12-05 Thread gerard robin
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: On mer 5 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: You mean, we have to ship FlightGear v1.0 with as many broken aircraft as working ones, for balancing reasons? :-} Broken ??? I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Where would you recommend searching for the problem with SDL? I got no idea where to start with that Given that we will/should drop both glut and sdl support, I wouldn't waste time for sdl. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16

2007-12-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
On mer 5 décembre 2007, Berndt, Jon S wrote: There has been some discussion of the F-16 working badly. I took another look at it over lunch. I think I have found one bug (which is not to say, the only bug). There are several integrators used in the control laws. These should have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chat Menu and fix for chat repetition bug

2007-12-05 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Melchior FRANZ wrote: * AnMaster -- Wednesday 05 December 2007: Melchior FRANZ wrote: All mod-meta and mod-super combinations are free. I don't have any of those keys on my keyboard... Most PC keyboards don't On the contrary: most have

[Flightgear-devel] gear control , again

2007-12-05 Thread SydSandy
Hi all , In case I wasn't too clear previously ,what i was proposing for the gear lever lock was to add something like this to the controls.nas file ... var gearDown = func(v) { if(getprop(/controls/gear/gear-lever-lock))return; if (v 0) {

[Flightgear-devel] A-10 help dialog and manual on the wiki

2007-12-05 Thread alexis bory
Hi all, The A-10 is now so feature rich that a comprehensive help/manual wouldn't fit in a single dialog. Readme files could help but they lake of graphics. So I started to use the wiki as the main help source. So now the question is, would it be a good idea to give a the wiki url in the A-10

Re: [Flightgear-devel] control trim reset

2007-12-05 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 5, 2007 3:33 PM, John Denker wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought 5 was a mouse-only solution to a mouse-only problem. 5 is a solution to a keybaord control issue, and it can come in handy for people that use a mouse too ... if done carefully. It should be useless for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch to use OpenSceneGraph database pager

2007-12-05 Thread Csaba Halász
On Dec 5, 2007 12:01 AM, Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless, the patch is quite usable with OSG 2.2. Give it a try if you're feeling adventurous. ATC aircraft doesn't work, the splash screen gets stuck at loading scenery and never disappears (waited some 10 minutes).

[Flightgear-devel] Classified Aircraft - Black Budgets and Images

2007-12-05 Thread Forums Virgin Net
Found this Looks Interesting http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwe81LzTH5w http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y18gu2Dgq8E Regards: Aerotro See http://uk.youtube.com/user/aceBryan7ox for more parts. Online FlightGear Simulator Tracker Page. http://mpserver04.flightgear.org