Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Sound fg_fx.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 fg_fx.hxx, 1.23, 1.24
On 9 Nov 2009, at 10:29, Erik Hofman wrote: allow sound effects in the configuration file to be added to the 'avionics' sample group by setting 'typeavionics/type'. Awesome stuff, this is such a good step towards better sound handling. James -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Note that I've added a 'typeavionics/type' tag to the xml configuration options that can be used for radios or stall warnings that are defined in the sound configuration file. Adding it makes that section behave as if it was part of the avionics meaning it will not have any position and orientation calculations and (at this time) will always be audible regardless of the current view. Erik -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Erik Hofman wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Note that I've added a 'typeavionics/type' tag to the xml configuration options that can be used for radios or stall warnings that are defined in the sound configuration file. Adding it makes that section behave as if it was part of the avionics meaning it will not have any position and orientation calculations and (at this time) will always be audible regardless of the current view. Hi Erik, Sounds great. I'll try this on my aircraft ASAP. A related question: Is it or will it be possible to split the sound file into parts and load them into the main sound file? I'm particularly interested in using the property overlay mechanism to instantiate certain properties when loading the subfiles. This is currently possible and useful with for 3d model XML files, see e.g. the use of display-text.xml in Aircraft/ZLT-NT/Models/Instruments/CenterMFD/ It would be great to be able to write one sound file with all the effects related to an engine and then just load it X time with a small overlay section to connect to the right properties for each of the X engines on the aircraft. Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:53 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Hi Erik, Updated FG/SG/DATA CVS as of an hour ago... Using only the default c172... 1. The cabin sound is loader than before - maybe I should buy earmuffs ;=)) Is there an xml setting for this? 2. The cabin sound does NOT seems to vary with engine RPM, as it did before. But it does in the outside tail view... 3. In takeoff, or flight, pulling or pushing on the stick used to cause a sound variation, but now there is NONE? Maybe this is right, and the previous wrong? 4. At start up, getting a whole bunch of - voice synth: word 'airport_information' not found voice synth: word '/_' not found voice synth: word 'automated_weather_observation' not found ... etc but maybe I have not 'installed' something? Hope this helps. Regards, Geoff. In: Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit $ dpkg -l | grep OpenAL ii libalut-dev 1.1.0-1 ii libalut0 1.1.0-1 ii libopenal-dev1:0.0.8-7 ii libopenal0a 1:0.0.8-7 OSG: 2.8.1 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On 9 Nov 2009, at 13:58, Geoff McLane wrote: 4. At start up, getting a whole bunch of - voice synth: word 'airport_information' not found voice synth: word '/_' not found voice synth: word 'automated_weather_observation' not found ... etc but maybe I have not 'installed' something? That's an unrelated problem, due to some ATIS changes I committed, and the fact that our ATC text-to-speech system needs some love. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 14:58 +0100, Geoff McLane wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:53 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Hi Erik, Updated FG/SG/DATA CVS as of an hour ago... Using only the default c172... 1. The cabin sound is loader than before - maybe I should buy earmuffs ;=)) Is there an xml setting for this? 2. The cabin sound does NOT seems to vary with engine RPM, as it did before. But it does in the outside tail view... 3. In takeoff, or flight, pulling or pushing on the stick used to cause a sound variation, but now there is NONE? Maybe this is right, and the previous wrong? Hi Geoff, I am very pleased to see your post which confirms everything I observe. Since Eric started work on the 3d sound system, I have been unable to use the CVS version of Flightgear. The reason? on the default c172P, I cannot enable sound because the volume of data/Sounds/wasp.wav and data/Sounds/wind.wav are played at maximum volume, making other sounds such as atis, I/O/M markers, flaps, etc unhearable. There was a moment when Eric showed a moment of uncharacteristic frustration and ripped all his code out of CVS. I built that version at 2009-11-01 21:37:16 (GMT) and it works well, all sounds being balanced and audible. As I am particularly keen on keeping up-to-date with James Turners's work with a view to implementing a decent ATC system, I really want to be able to use a workable CVS My System: Hardware: Processor : 2x AMD Athlon 7450 Dual-Core Processor Memory : 2061MB OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 9800 GT/PCI/SSE2 Resolution : 1280x1024 pixels Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia Input Devices- Saitek Saitek X45 Flight Control Stick Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev a1) Software: Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation OSG : OpenSceneGraph-2.8.2 Simgear : CVS FlightGear : CVS OpenAL : Debian 1:1.9.563.-1 Kind Regards, Alasdair -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 14:56 +, James Turner wrote: On 9 Nov 2009, at 13:58, Geoff McLane wrote: 4. At start up, getting a whole bunch of - voice synth: word 'airport_information' not found voice synth: word '/_' not found voice synth: word 'automated_weather_observation' not found ... etc but maybe I have not 'installed' something? That's an unrelated problem, due to some ATIS changes I committed, and the fact that our ATC text-to-speech system needs some love. I have come to love that ATIS voice. I wonder if the delightful lady could be persuaded to fill in the gaps. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue
I'm using a fairly recent version of the CVS on Windows XP - I can't tell you which exactly at the moment, unfortunately - but whenever I land or take off from a center runway, I can't get the center runway texture to display, even though it's in the /Textures folder with all the other runway textures. For example, at KMDW, when you close in on approach for runway 13C, the C does not show, and all you see is the number 13. 13L and 13R appear to work fine. I'm trying to figure out if this is an error on my end, or if there's something in the code which is preventing the C from being displayed? Cheers John -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
Everything seems to work here now , plus I now have doppler in flyby views ...(with a much more realistic pitch change) ... Thanks for all your work . I do now have very loud wind noise in some cases , so I need to redo some sound xml files. Are there any new added options/changes I can experiment with ? Cheers On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Note that I've added a 'typeavionics/type' tag to the xml configuration options that can be used for radios or stall warnings that are defined in the sound configuration file. Adding it makes that section behave as if it was part of the avionics meaning it will not have any position and orientation calculations and (at this time) will always be audible regardless of the current view. Erik -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] festsival ... or not
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Iwrote: 2) There is a documented interface to the Festival TTS system. Alas, the preponderance of the evidence indicates this has not worked in several years. On 09/19/2009 01:23 PM, Anders Gidenstam replied: Using Festival from FlightGear works very well for various types of text messages, mainly from the MP and auto-ATC subsystems (and aircraft specific systems). See Docs/README.voice.html for setup information. If ATIS also used the that system I think we'd be home. I reiterate that chez moi, the festival features as documented in Docs/getstart.pdf do not work. They have not worked for years, if ever. This bug has been observed using Debian Etch, Debian Lenny, and now Debian Squeeze. In every case, I observe that the festival server works fine when FGFS is not running, but is unable to make any sound when FGFS is running. This is unsurprising, given that both of them are trying to send to /dev/dsp which AFAICT has never allowed multiple access. I know it is possible to install additional layers of sound processing, but there is no mention of the need or method for doing that in getstart.pdf nor in Docs/README.voices.html nor in fgfs --help --verbose. Setting up a .openalrc file as mentioned in README.sound does not solve the problem. Bottom line: I am willing to believe FGFS can be made to talk to festival under some conditions on some systems. Perhaps somebody who knows how it is done would be kind enough to explain. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
syd adams wrote: Everything seems to work here now , plus I now have doppler in flyby views ...(with a much more realistic pitch change) ... Thanks for all your work . I do now have very loud wind noise in some cases , so I need to redo some sound xml files. Are there any new added options/changes I can experiment with ? Cheers I would be better to hold off any changes just yet. There is still something strange going on: OpenAL-Sample: * has proper Doppler effect with normal velocity (or alDopplerFactor set to 1.0) and does have directionals sounds with the current code but the volume slider does not work properly OpenAL Soft: * needs velocity multiplied by 60-100 (or better yet alDopplerFactor set by 60-100), does *not* have directional sound and the volume slider does not work properly My OpenAL implementation: * needs velocity multiplied by 60-100 (or better yet alDopplerFactor set by 60-100), does *not* have directional sound but the volume slider *does* work properly I seem to remember I had the volume slider working properly. Maybe I should make a diff against the version Alasdair mentioned. Erik -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] festsival ... or not
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, John Denker wrote: I reiterate that chez moi, the festival features as documented in Docs/getstart.pdf do not work. They have not worked for years, if ever. This bug has been observed using Debian Etch, Debian Lenny, and now Debian Squeeze. In every case, I observe that the festival server works fine when FGFS is not running, but is unable to make any sound when FGFS is running. This is unsurprising, given that both of them are trying to send to /dev/dsp which AFAICT has never allowed multiple access. Well, that you have not configured your sound system correctly isn't really FlightGear's fault, is it? Of course, the documentation could match your system better than it does, but Linux sound is pretty diverse and changes over time. The wiki might contain something about systems closer to yours. I have Debian/testing and use ALSA for sound (default for my installation). 1. I configured OpenAL to use ALSA: (If you have OpenAL-soft you might find more info in /etc/openal/alsoft.conf) and...@sleipner:~$ cat ~/.alsoftrc format = AL_FORMAT_STEREO16 cf_level = 2 drivers = alsa [alsa] # ALSA backend stuff device = plug:dmix capture = plug:dsnoop 2. I don't remeber if I had to touch the festival config or not, but here it is: and...@sleipner:/etc$ cat /etc/festival.scm (Parameter.set 'Audio_Command aplay -D plug:dmix -q -c 1 -t raw -f s16 -r $SR $FILE) (Parameter.set 'Audio_Method 'Audio_Command) (Parameter.set 'Audio_Required_Format 'snd) 3. I set /sim/sound/voices/enabled to true in my ~/.fgfs/preferences.xml file (included via .fgfsrc). Setting up a .openalrc file as mentioned in README.sound does not solve the problem. One possibility is that you have OpenAL-soft which uses .alsoftrc with a different syntax instead. (IIRC it does complain if it finds a .openal, though). I hope this helps. Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend impressions
Hi All, Last weekend we've been organizing a booth at FSWeekend again. I'll try to write a few more elaborate set of impressions later, however, let me just say that our booth was quite large this year. :-) In the mean time, here are some pictures: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/FSWeekend/web/index.html Cheers, Durk -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Hurricane simulator development
This message is to announce my intentions to develop a hurricane simulation system for FlightGear. I've done only preliminary work on locating data resources, and in exploring the source code to get a grasp of the different systems I'll have to interface with in FlightGear. This will be my first time working on a project as large as FlightGear. My plans are to have a command line option to enable hurricane simulation much the same as the existing real weather fetch mode does. When enabled the program will fetch data from NOAA's Tropical Cyclone ICAO (Aviation) Advisory server. This is a simple text advisory that won't be too difficult to parse. A sample of this advisory is at the end of this message. I have conversed with the administrators of that server via email and they appear to have no problem with the idea. I will write some form of protection to avoid all the FlightGear clients storming their servers for new advisories at the NXT MSG times. The new module will use this data to, by default, render a best guess simulation of any active hurricanes based on the advisories. There is always a queue of the last 5 storms each in the Atlantic and Pacific regions available there so any of those 10 storms could be selected by the user to be simulated. I would also plan on adding a dialog under the environment menu to allow the user to select any of those storms or to define their own hurricane parameters for simulation. To be sure, this will be a very rough simulation of a hurricane, especially early on. I want to make sure that there is as little performance overhead as possible for the model. I essentially want to have the model maintain a table of conditions, based on storm strength and movement, present at any given region relative to the storm center, and feed those conditions to the existing weather modeling structures based on the current user's position. This would basically be a table of prebuilt models of the different levels of storm strength that would be selected and positioned based on the advisory data. I plan to build models for depressions, storms, and category 1-5 hurricanes. I'm hoping the existing weather modeling code can handle wind speeds in the 150kt+ range! What I would like to know is who would be a good developer for me to look to for guidance with integrating this module into the existing framework. Also, I'm not a meteorologist so I'm hoping to have some mentors to go to if I have questions about the best way to model various aspects and area's within a hurricane. Does anyone have any comments, ideas, or criticisms of this idea before I really start investing a lot of effort into it? Any individuals I should talk to before investing a lot of my time into it? Thanks! Bob Below is the current advisory for Tropical Storm Ida: 000 FKNT21 KNHC 092054 TCANT1 TROPICAL STORM IDA ICAO ADVISORY NUMBER 24 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009 2100 UTC MON NOV 09 2009 TC ADVISORY DTG: 20091109/2100Z TCAC: KNHC TC: IDA NR: 024 PSN: N2824 W08830 MOV: N 16KT C:0991HPA MAX WIND: 060KT FCST PSN + 06 HR: 100300 N2936 W08814 FCST MAX WIND + 06 HR:055KT FCST PSN + 12 HR: 100900 N3024 W08751 FCST MAX WIND + 12 HR:050KT FCST PSN + 18 HR: 101500 N3048 W08721 FCST MAX WIND + 18 HR:045KT FCST PSN + 24 HR: 102100 N3100 W08642 FCST MAX WIND + 24 HR:040KT RMK THE FORECAST POSITION INFORMATION IN THIS PRODUCT IS INTERPOLATED FROM OFFICIAL FORECAST DATA VALID AT ... 0600...1200...AND 1800Z. NXT MSG: 20091110/0300Z $$ -- Delusional Mail (http://www.delusionalmind.com) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend impressions
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Durk Talsma d.tal...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi All, Last weekend we've been organizing a booth at FSWeekend again. I'll try to write a few more elaborate set of impressions later, however, let me just say that our booth was quite large this year. :-) In the mean time, here are some pictures: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/FSWeekend/web/index.htmlhttp://www.xs4all.nl/%7Edtalsma/FSWeekend/web/index.html I recognized Martin, Torsten, and Durk in the pictures. I assume Durk was behind the camera. I *really* like this shot: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/FSWeekend/web/34.html These guys don't look so scary in real life: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/FSWeekend/web/40.html I'm really impressed with the amount of hardware you guys drug in there and setup. The full panel with LCD instruments looked great ... projectors ... this has to be the most impressive display of FlightGear stuff in one spot so far to date! The t-shirts look awesome. :-) Great job guys! Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hurricane simulator development
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 17:56 -0500, Bob Faulkner wrote: I notice that our local (Australian) national meteorology department lists several international hurricane and cyclone warning centres, and from what I see of the NOAA NHC it seems to only report in it's local area. Is there any way this could be made to work with a international set of data? For reference here is the list and map of coverage areas for each regional warning centre; http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/cyclone/about/tc-warning-centres.shtml S. This message is to announce my intentions to develop a hurricane simulation system for FlightGear. I've done only preliminary work on locating data resources, and in exploring the source code to get a grasp of the different systems I'll have to interface with in FlightGear. This will be my first time working on a project as large as FlightGear. My plans are to have a command line option to enable hurricane simulation much the same as the existing real weather fetch mode does. When enabled the program will fetch data from NOAA's Tropical Cyclone ICAO (Aviation) Advisory server. This is a simple text advisory that won't be too difficult to parse. A sample of this advisory is at the end of this message. I have conversed with the administrators of that server via email and they appear to have no problem with the idea. I will write some form of protection to avoid all the FlightGear clients storming their servers for new advisories at the NXT MSG times. The new module will use this data to, by default, render a best guess simulation of any active hurricanes based on the advisories. There is always a queue of the last 5 storms each in the Atlantic and Pacific regions available there so any of those 10 storms could be selected by the user to be simulated. I would also plan on adding a dialog under the environment menu to allow the user to select any of those storms or to define their own hurricane parameters for simulation. To be sure, this will be a very rough simulation of a hurricane, especially early on. I want to make sure that there is as little performance overhead as possible for the model. I essentially want to have the model maintain a table of conditions, based on storm strength and movement, present at any given region relative to the storm center, and feed those conditions to the existing weather modeling structures based on the current user's position. This would basically be a table of prebuilt models of the different levels of storm strength that would be selected and positioned based on the advisory data. I plan to build models for depressions, storms, and category 1-5 hurricanes. I'm hoping the existing weather modeling code can handle wind speeds in the 150kt+ range! What I would like to know is who would be a good developer for me to look to for guidance with integrating this module into the existing framework. Also, I'm not a meteorologist so I'm hoping to have some mentors to go to if I have questions about the best way to model various aspects and area's within a hurricane. Does anyone have any comments, ideas, or criticisms of this idea before I really start investing a lot of effort into it? Any individuals I should talk to before investing a lot of my time into it? Thanks! Bob Below is the current advisory for Tropical Storm Ida: 000 FKNT21 KNHC 092054 TCANT1 TROPICAL STORM IDA ICAO ADVISORY NUMBER 24 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009 2100 UTC MON NOV 09 2009 TC ADVISORY DTG: 20091109/2100Z TCAC: KNHC TC: IDA NR: 024 PSN: N2824 W08830 MOV: N 16KT C:0991HPA MAX WIND: 060KT FCST PSN + 06 HR: 100300 N2936 W08814 FCST MAX WIND + 06 HR:055KT FCST PSN + 12 HR: 100900 N3024 W08751 FCST MAX WIND + 12 HR:050KT FCST PSN + 18 HR: 101500 N3048 W08721 FCST MAX WIND + 18 HR:045KT FCST PSN + 24 HR: 102100 N3100 W08642 FCST MAX WIND + 24 HR:040KT RMK THE FORECAST POSITION INFORMATION IN THIS PRODUCT IS INTERPOLATED FROM OFFICIAL FORECAST DATA VALID AT ... 0600...1200...AND 1800Z. NXT MSG: 20091110/0300Z $$ -- Delusional Mail (http://www.delusionalmind.com) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 12:15 -0800, syd adams wrote: Everything seems to work here now , plus I now have doppler in flyby views ...(with a much more realistic pitch change) ... Thanks for all your work . I do now have very loud wind noise in some cases , so I need to redo some sound xml files. Are there any new added options/changes I can experiment with ? Cheers On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anybody has any problems/bugs/oddities that needs to be addressed in the latest SoundSystem code. Note that I've added a 'typeavionics/type' tag to the xml configuration options that can be used for radios or stall warnings that are defined in the sound configuration file. Adding it makes that section behave as if it was part of the avionics meaning it will not have any position and orientation calculations and (at this time) will always be audible regardless of the current view. Erik -- For many days now, I have been reporting similar problems, but Erik has seemed to be prominently reluctant in assiduously avoiding addressing or responding to any of my questions. Perhaps someone acting as a nice kind of moderator might be persuaded to jog Erik along to answer well meant questions. For my own part, as a long term user and sometime contributer to FG CVS, I find this behaviour a little disconcerting. If there is anything wrong in the way I have phrased my questions, I believe it to be common courtesy to advise me. To utterly ignore me is, in my opinion, pretty bad form. Alasdair -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] festsival ... or not
Festival has worked with FG for me , too , but I haven't set it up recently... I do remember having to tweak the the .openalrc file a bit ... Maybe I'll try it agian with openal-soft and see what happens. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
For many days now, I have been reporting similar problems, but Erik has seemed to be prominently reluctant in assiduously avoiding addressing or responding to any of my questions. Perhaps someone acting as a nice kind of moderator might be persuaded to jog Erik along to answer well meant questions. For my own part, as a long term user and sometime contributer to FG CVS, I find this behaviour a little disconcerting. If there is anything wrong in the way I have phrased my questions, I believe it to be common courtesy to advise me. To utterly ignore me is, in my opinion, pretty bad form. Alasdair Well , like he's pointed out , there are still issues to be worked out ... it's getting there :) Cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] festsival ... or not
Ive just installed festival with 2 voices , started festival --server , and I hear all the MP messages . No configuring of any files was required . Now if festival voices were just a little clearer :). On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: Festival has worked with FG for me , too , but I haven't set it up recently... I do remember having to tweak the the .openalrc file a bit ... Maybe I'll try it agian with openal-soft and see what happens. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 17:11 -0800, syd adams wrote: For many days now, I have been reporting similar problems, but Erik has seemed to be prominently reluctant in assiduously avoiding addressing or responding to any of my questions. Perhaps someone acting as a nice kind of moderator might be persuaded to jog Erik along to answer well meant questions. For my own part, as a long term user and sometime contributer to FG CVS, I find this behaviour a little disconcerting. If there is anything wrong in the way I have phrased my questions, I believe it to be common courtesy to advise me. To utterly ignore me is, in my opinion, pretty bad form. Alasdair Well , like he's pointed out , there are still issues to be worked out ... it's getting there :) Cheers OMG, thank you for your response, Syd. I was beginning to beieve I was just a bad smell. I look forward to the day when FG CVS will be usable again (sound ? 2d, 3d, I don't give a ) Personally, I don't need a hi-fi sound system to enjoy a flight simulator. And I will feel a lot happier when the day comes that a contributer makes a decent attempt to test his work before abusing his privilege to commit untested and questionable work to CVS. Kind regards, Alasdair -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Alasdair Campbell ali...@btinternet.com wrote: And I will feel a lot happier when the day comes that a contributer makes a decent attempt to test his work before abusing his privilege to commit untested and questionable work to CVS. CVS is for developing stuff. For testing and review one needs to publish the new code somewhere. You can't expect it to be in perfect order all the time. Erik *has* tried to reproduce the reported problems but some just didn't happen for him. Especially with the various versions of OpenAl out there that have caused trouble before, I certainly feel he has made a decent attempt to test his work. If we will have a better sound system after a few weeks of development, that's fine with me, even if it includes some detours or dead-ends. Maybe you should take a little vacation ;) I hope your comments will not discourage Erik and other potential contributors. We need more developers not less. On a related note, I think it is time to put GIT on the official agenda again. That way it would be easy for interested parties to test new code. -- Csaba/Jester -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem continued
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 04:20 +0100, Csaba Halász wrote: Source code repositories are for developers, every project whether open source or a project that a company IT department is building in-house will have broken builds. So the QA phase of open source projects is when interested folk (like myself) go to the trouble of building and (informally) testing the code. No project I have worked on has ever done QA before a commit, while a developer will do sanity checks (ie: does it compile, does it not do anything seriously wrong) it would be complex and introduce unnecessary delays to undertake QA before committing. Git does seem to provide the ability, with distributed repositories, to allow different folk to have different stages of development available to them locally. Continuous builds may be a good mechanism to provide a middle solution, in that developers can commit and see if different build configurations break, it also means (with tagging) that different nightly, weekly, monthly builds can be retrieved by those who don't want/need bleeding edge functionality. With a move to a new source-code repository tool, I would suggest looking at the build and unit testing tools. Just my few small monetary denominations worth S. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Alasdair Campbell ali...@btinternet.com wrote: And I will feel a lot happier when the day comes that a contributer makes a decent attempt to test his work before abusing his privilege to commit untested and questionable work to CVS. CVS is for developing stuff. For testing and review one needs to publish the new code somewhere. You can't expect it to be in perfect order all the time. Erik *has* tried to reproduce the reported problems but some just didn't happen for him. Especially with the various versions of OpenAl out there that have caused trouble before, I certainly feel he has made a decent attempt to test his work. If we will have a better sound system after a few weeks of development, that's fine with me, even if it includes some detours or dead-ends. Maybe you should take a little vacation ;) I hope your comments will not discourage Erik and other potential contributors. We need more developers not less. On a related note, I think it is time to put GIT on the official agenda again. That way it would be easy for interested parties to test new code. ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On 10/11/09 15:13, Alasdair Campbell wrote: happier when the day comes that a contributer makes a decent attempt to test his work before abusing his privilege to commit untested and questionable work to CVS. If you want a (more) trouble free existence, download the official release and forget about CVS! Or just stik with a prior CVS revision. CVS is for people who wish to assist in the development, by either taking an active part in developing, alpha testing, or providing constructive comment. CVS is not for users. Sometimes things take time to work out when everybody is a VOLUNTEER. Welcome to software development in general. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue - Potential Fix Found
I think I may have found the problem with the Center Runway texture not
showing, but I'm not at all confident with my C++ skills, so someone will have
to fix TerraGear for me.
However, I've found this code in
/terragear-cs/src/airports/GenAirports/rwy_*.cxx:
int len = rwy_info.rwy_no.length();
string letter = ;
string rev_letter = ;
for ( i = 0; i len; ++i ) {
string tmp = rwy_info.rwy_no.substr(i, 1);
if ( tmp == L ) {
letter = L;
rev_letter = R;
} else if ( tmp == R ) {
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
letter == C; // should this be letter = C;?
rev_letter = C;
}
}
If my simple programming skills don't betray me, I //believe// letter == C;
does not actually set letter to equal C, which may be why these airports are
being generated without the center runway texture.
Cheers
John
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue - Potential Fix Found
2009/11/10 Statto Software stattosoftw...@yahoo.com:
I think I may have found the problem with the Center Runway texture not
showing, but I'm not at all confident with my C++ skills, so someone will
have to fix TerraGear for me.
However, I've found this code in
/terragear-cs/src/airports/GenAirports/rwy_*.cxx:
int len = rwy_info.rwy_no.length();
string letter = ;
string rev_letter = ;
for ( i = 0; i len; ++i ) {
string tmp = rwy_info.rwy_no.substr(i, 1);
if ( tmp == L ) {
letter = L;
rev_letter = R;
} else if ( tmp == R ) {
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
letter == C; // should this be letter = C;?
rev_letter = C;
}
}
If my simple programming skills don't betray me, I //believe// letter == C;
does not actually set letter to equal C, which may be why these airports are
being generated without the center runway texture.
Cheers
John
Hi John,
While I don't have commit rights to cvs, it looks good to me. I guess
there are not many airports with centre runways. :-)
Regards
George
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue - Potential Fix Found
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 20:28 -0800, Statto Software wrote:
I think I may have found the problem with the Center Runway texture not
showing, but I'm not at all confident with my C++ skills, so someone will
have to fix TerraGear for me.
However, I've found this code in
/terragear-cs/src/airports/GenAirports/rwy_*.cxx:
int len = rwy_info.rwy_no.length();
string letter = ;
string rev_letter = ;
for ( i = 0; i len; ++i ) {
string tmp = rwy_info.rwy_no.substr(i, 1);
if ( tmp == L ) {
letter = L;
rev_letter = R;
} else if ( tmp == R ) {
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
letter == C; // should this be letter = C;?
rev_letter = C;
}
}
If my simple programming skills don't betray me, I //believe// letter == C;
does not actually set letter to equal C, which may be why these airports are
being generated without the center runway texture.
Cheers
John
Looks reasonable to me. Are you actually building these airports? The
attached patch is untested...
Ron
diff --git a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_nonprec.cxx b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_nonprec.cxx
index 93110c6..7fe2d46 100644
--- a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_nonprec.cxx
+++ b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_nonprec.cxx
@@ -245,7 +245,7 @@ void gen_non_precision_rwy( const TGRunway rwy_info,
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
- letter = C;
+ letter == C;
rev_letter = C;
}
}
diff --git a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_prec.cxx b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_prec.cxx
index a7952a0..ce5542e 100644
--- a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_prec.cxx
+++ b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_prec.cxx
@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ void gen_precision_rwy( const TGRunway rwy_info,
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
- letter = C;
+ letter == C;
rev_letter = C;
}
}
iff --git a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_visual.cxx b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_visual.cxx
index e0f9c9c..32f19eb 100644
--- a/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_visual.cxx
+++ b/src/Airports/GenAirports/rwy_visual.cxx
@@ -251,7 +251,7 @@ void gen_visual_rwy( const TGRunway rwy_info,
letter = R;
rev_letter = L;
} else if ( tmp == C ) {
- letter = C;
+ letter == C;
rev_letter = C;
}
}
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue - Potential Fix Found
Looks reasonable to me. Are you actually building these airports? The attached patch is untested... Ron No, I'm not currently in the process of building any airports - though I am generating shapefiles to be used in the default scenery, and Seattle is in the area I'm currently working on (KSEA has a center runway). Though there aren't many center runways it's something I've wanted to see fixed for a long time. Tonight I decided to download the source code and see if I could figure out where the problem was, or at least suggest where I thought it might be. Cheers John -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue - Potential Fix Found
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:27 -0800, Statto Software wrote: Looks reasonable to me. Are you actually building these airports? The attached patch is untested... Ron No, I'm not currently in the process of building any airports - though I am generating shapefiles to be used in the default scenery, and Seattle is in the area I'm currently working on (KSEA has a center runway). Though there aren't many center runways it's something I've wanted to see fixed for a long time. Tonight I decided to download the source code and see if I could figure out where the problem was, or at least suggest where I thought it might be. Cheers John It might take a few days, but I'll add regeneration of KSEA with my patch to see what happens Ron -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
