Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: in air starts and all preset control/trim settings broke

2010-11-03 Thread James Turner

On 1 Nov 2010, at 18:05, James Turner wrote:

 'preset-commit' should possibly not trigger a full-reset - but I'd worry 
 about introducing subtle bugs in re-position from the GUI, if we change that 
 behaviour now. On the other hand it is fairly testable, if breakage does 
 occur.
 
 My 'least bad' option is to save control state (from the -set.xml, or config, 
 or command line) as part of the initial state, so that it's re-applied after 
 the controls are reset. That seems to most robust to me, but I need to check 
 if there's knock on effects (possibly rather subtle ones) from saving and 
 then restoring more properties during the reset process.

Fixes for this are pushed to Git now, please test. I went for the 'consistent' 
approach, rather than introducing more special-case behaviour.

Here's what happens:
- reset and reposition now use the same codepath (something I've been 
working towards for many months). They do a full control reset, but after that, 
a full initial state restore.

(it would be possible to support a 'nearby' re-position that doesn't 
touch the tile-manager, AI manager, or so on, and just re-inits the FDM - but 
that's something for the future, if people want it)

- we already saved all the initial state at the end of the main init - 
but Nasal scripts run before that state is saved - so running presets-commit 
then confuses things mightily. What I do now, is special case position changes 
(presets-commit) that happen during startup, and skip the reset path entirely, 
since it's unnecessary.

This gives us:
- Nasal can merrily re-init during startup if it chooses

- control values specified on the command line, -set files or config 
survive the init process

- Reposition and reset from the GUI both work, and will give you the 
state as specified in the -set  config files, and command line. Since 
reposition from the GUI *is a* reset (now), some properties may change that 
previously did not, but I can't imagine a situation where the old behaviour was 
better - since we already wiped the FDM and control state regardless.

This would be a good change to test. Note that JSBSim is experience NaNs for me 
on reset/re-position, much of the time - I think I'm more prone to this than 
other people, for some reason. I see the same behaviour before and after the 
change, and Anders informs me it's a long-standing bug, but obviously if you're 
testing reset or reposition you're likely to encounter it.

(If someone could get to the bottom of it, that would of course be even better)

Regards,
James


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: in air starts and all preset control/trim settings broke

2010-11-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 This would be a good change to test. Note that JSBSim is experience
 NaNs for me on reset/re-position, much of the time - I think I'm more
 prone to this than other people, for some reason. I see the same
 behaviour before and after the change, and Anders informs me it's a
 long-standing bug, but obviously if you're testing reset or reposition
 you're likely to encounter it.
 
 (If someone could get to the bottom of it, that would of course be even
 better)
 
 Regards,
 James

I think this might be our child FDM counter bug.

Jon



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[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim NaNs on reset

2010-11-03 Thread James Turner

On 3 Nov 2010, at 10:15, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 I think this might be our child FDM counter bug.

No, this pre-dates, and post-dates that - according to Anders it's been around 
for a long time (years, possibly), but for some reason my setup seems very 
prone - it happens with the default C172 on every re-init. I've watched sane 
values going into the JSBSim via the FGinterface, and stepped as far as I can 
down, but at some point everything comes out as NaNs.

Note this is a completely new JSBim object, as far as FG is concerned - and it 
never fails this way on first init, so there's a high chance of lurking static 
or some other cleanup issue. Of course it may be allocated in the same block of 
memory the previous JSBSIm instance occupied!

James

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