Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Thanks. I think it is pretty inconsiderate of the NOAA to change this two days before our largest flightsim event worldwide :-D But as you pointed out, METAR will have stopped working for older releases too. Which is even worse. m Op 05-11-10 20:37, ThorstenB schreef: That was a problem with the simgear METAR loader. Obviously NOAA is using a shared server for their websites now (one IP for several sites). The new webserver couldn't tell for which website we were asking for. HTTP requires a GET and a Host line - we were missing the latter. A fix is in GIT now. Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for all previous FG versions now... Anyway, what are the plans for the next FG release? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Hello, to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Maik m schrieb am 06.11.2010 09:30: Thanks. I think it is pretty inconsiderate of the NOAA to change this two days before our largest flightsim event worldwide :-D But as you pointed out, METAR will have stopped working for older releases too. Which is even worse. m Op 05-11-10 20:37, ThorstenB schreef: That was a problem with the simgear METAR loader. Obviously NOAA is using a shared server for their websites now (one IP for several sites). The new webserver couldn't tell for which website we were asking for. HTTP requires a GET and a Host line - we were missing the latter. A fix is in GIT now. Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for all previous FG versions now... Anyway, what are the plans for the next FG release? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
Le 06/11/2010 05:31, Gene Buckle a écrit : On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Google is your friend : http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/324846/the-resolvevcprojectoutput-task-failed-unexpectedly-when-building-projects-in-parallel-msbuild Try the command : msbuild FlightGear.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64 (without the /m switch) Thanks Fred, that did the trick. The x64 build is now available from the build server and I changed what it made available to include all the .exe files. I updated the win32 build to include all the .exes as well. Did you consider including fgrun to the mix ? -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On 6 Nov 2010, at 08:46, Maik Justus wrote: to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Just to be clear, NOAA aren't being 'inconsiderate' - the FG code has been broken, and non-compliant, all along - it just happened to be a non-compliance the old servers tolerated. We weren't, prior to Thorsten's fix, sending a valid request - any cache, proxy or server would have been entirely permitted to ignore it. There's no need to postulate complex additions to our side - we should just check our HTTP compliance better! James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:27, Frederic Bouvier wrote: The x64 build is now available from the build server and I changed what it made available to include all the .exe files. I updated the win32 build to include all the .exes as well. Did you consider including fgrun to the mix ? Yes, I want to, for the nightlies, but I'm not clear what additional checkouts and steps will need to be added to make that happen - I know FLTK is already in the 3rd-parties zip you provide, that we use. James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
Le 06/11/2010 10:52, James Turner a écrit : On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:27, Frederic Bouvier wrote: The x64 build is now available from the build server and I changed what it made available to include all the .exe files. I updated the win32 build to include all the .exes as well. Did you consider including fgrun to the mix ? Yes, I want to, for the nightlies, but I'm not clear what additional checkouts and steps will need to be added to make that happen - I know FLTK is already in the 3rd-parties zip you provide, that we use. fgrun depends on the 3rdparty libraries, gettext and simgear. SVN Repository is at |https://fgrun.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/fgrun/trunk/fgrun |fgrun.sln is in msvc/9.0 BTW: I will update the 3rd party archive in the next days, maybe including gettext Regards, -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Hmmm Something is not quite right yet. I have recompiled simgear and fgfs. I had METAR info this morning, but now after a restart, it says NIL again. Intermittend... Is METAR info read on more than one place? m -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Funny, I disabled METAR for global weather in the GUI and later set it to Live Data again, and now it is collecting METAR info again... without restarting. m Op 06-11-10 12:09, fiers...@zonnet.nl schreef: Hmmm Something is not quite right yet. I have recompiled simgear and fgfs. I had METAR info this morning, but now after a restart, it says NIL again. Intermittend... Is METAR info read on more than one place? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
Le 06/11/2010 11:03, Frederic Bouvier a écrit : BTW: I will update the 3rd party archive in the next days, maybe including gettext I updated the 3rdparty archives : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-win32-VS90-3rdParty+OSG-20101106.zip ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-x64-VS90-3rdParty+OSG-20101106.zip They include gettext. That should address the current fgrun build error. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Le 06/11/2010 05:31, Gene Buckle a écrit : On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Google is your friend : http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/324846/the-resolvevcprojectoutput-task-failed-unexpectedly-when-building-projects-in-parallel-msbuild Try the command : msbuild FlightGear.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64 (without the /m switch) Thanks Fred, that did the trick. The x64 build is now available from the build server and I changed what it made available to include all the .exe files. I updated the win32 build to include all the .exes as well. Did you consider including fgrun to the mix ? It looks like James added it, but the build failed. I'll take a peek and see if I can straighten it out. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, James Turner wrote: On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:27, Frederic Bouvier wrote: The x64 build is now available from the build server and I changed what it made available to include all the .exe files. I updated the win32 build to include all the .exes as well. Did you consider including fgrun to the mix ? Yes, I want to, for the nightlies, but I'm not clear what additional checkouts and steps will need to be added to make that happen - I know FLTK is already in the 3rd-parties zip you provide, that we use. It's exploding on the Portugese translation. Build started 11/6/2010 8:21:23 AM. 1Project D:\FGFSHudson\FGRun\msvc\9.0\fgrun.sln on node 0 (default targets). Building solution configuration Release|Win32. 1Project : error PRJ0019: A tool returned an error code from Generating portugese translation 1Done Building Project D:\FGFSHudson\FGRun\msvc\9.0\fgrun.sln (default targets) -- FAILED. Go figure. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
- Gene Buckle a écrit : It's exploding on the Portugese translation. Build started 11/6/2010 8:21:23 AM. 1Project D:\FGFSHudson\FGRun\msvc\9.0\fgrun.sln on node 0 (default targets). Building solution configuration Release|Win32. 1Project : error PRJ0019: A tool returned an error code from Generating portugese translation 1Done Building Project D:\FGFSHudson\FGRun\msvc\9.0\fgrun.sln (default targets) -- FAILED. Go figure. :) Now that I updated the vs2008 projects, all win32/x64 build should fail until you update the 3rdparties. Then the msgfmt tool used to compile the portugese translation (and others ;-) ) will work. Regards, -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On 6 Nov 2010, at 16:22, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Now that I updated the vs2008 projects, all win32/x64 build should fail until you update the 3rdparties. Then the msgfmt tool used to compile the portugese translation (and others ;-) ) will work. Aha, I wondered. Thanks Fred! James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Le 06/11/2010 11:03, Frederic Bouvier a écrit : BTW: I will update the 3rd party archive in the next days, maybe including gettext I updated the 3rdparty archives : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-win32-VS90-3rdParty+OSG-20101106.zip ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-x64-VS90-3rdParty+OSG-20101106.zip They include gettext. That should address the current fgrun build error. Thanks Fred. I'm rebuilding everything with the new libraries. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On 6 Nov 2010, at 16:22, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Now that I updated the vs2008 projects, all win32/x64 build should fail until you update the 3rdparties. Then the msgfmt tool used to compile the portugese translation (and others ;-) ) will work. Thanks Fred and Gene, we have a green board now! http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/ I'll work on the installer scripts today / tomorrow, so we can have FGRun-enabled nightlies. James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
- James Turner zakal...@mac.com a écrit : On 6 Nov 2010, at 16:22, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Now that I updated the vs2008 projects, all win32/x64 build should fail until you update the 3rdparties. Then the msgfmt tool used to compile the portugese translation (and others ;-) ) will work. Thanks Fred and Gene, we have a green board now! http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/ I'll work on the installer scripts today / tomorrow, so we can have FGRun-enabled nightlies. The artifacts of the fgrun build are fgrun.exe and the locale directory -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Saturday 06 November 2010 03:51:28 James Turner wrote: On 6 Nov 2010, at 08:46, Maik Justus wrote: to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Just to be clear, NOAA aren't being 'inconsiderate' - the FG code has been broken, and non-compliant, all along - it just happened to be a non-compliance the old servers tolerated. We weren't, prior to Thorsten's fix, sending a valid request - any cache, proxy or server would have been entirely permitted to ignore it. There's no need to postulate complex additions to our side - we should just check our HTTP compliance better! James I looked at the NOAA site last night. http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ There are some seriously old metar files mixed in there! http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ENLU.TXT for example, is from 02 JUN 2007! It would be nice if someone could figure out a way to guard against that! Thanks, Ron -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:23:33 -0600, Ron wrote in message 201011061223.33277.w...@jentronics.com: I looked at the NOAA site last night. http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ There are some seriously old metar files mixed in there! http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ENLU.TXT for example, is from 02 JUN 2007! It would be nice if someone could figure out a way to guard against that! ..easy now; how do we do historical weather? Or rather, how _should_ we do historical weather? E.g. of interest to air crash investigations? Custom event mp-servers? I understand you guys has set up a few air show mp servers here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear for x64 (Windows)
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 23:57:50 +0100 (CET), Frederic wrote in message 2890439.8451961288997870212.javamail.r...@spooler4-g27.priv.proxad.net: The x64 platform is only available in the Professional Edition of VS2008. Did you manage to build the solution inside the IDE ? Google is your friend : http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/324846/the-resolvevcprojectoutput-task-failed-unexpectedly-when-building-projects-in-parallel-msbuild Try the command : msbuild FlightGear.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64 (without the /m switch) ..this will work for Deborah's Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Express 64bit FG builds too? ..if not, what else is out there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio#Editions_feature_grid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#C.2FC.2B.2B http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_toolchain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinGW http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Emacs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war ;o) ..what _is_ Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Express really, as an IDE, a GUI front end for other tools, like Emacs et al are for the GNU etc tool chains? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
