Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread thorsten . i . renk

  Lightning works fine here.

Here it does not. Pulled flightgear, simgear and fgdata today, compiled
simgear and flightgear.

Error logs attached.

I was entertaining the theory that something is wrong in the way I update
fgdata, but while git status lists a couple of files as having
differences, that are files I know should be different because I changed
them. No aircraft is listed as being different.

I was also entertaining the hypothesis that my binary is somehow wrong -
but I see that the framerate while the splash screen is shown is with
today's binary limited to 2 (used to show hundreds) - just as described on
the list.

So, I am somewhat at a loss what is going wrong here. The double // in the
directory shown after  Aircraft propulsion element has problems... is
somewhat suggestive of something weird - but I don't understand why that
would affect only a limited number of aircraft while plenty of others work
just fine.

Cheers,

* Thorsten



*Lightning*

./fgfs --disable-fullscreen --geometry=800x600
--disable-real-weather-fetch --airport=TNCM --timeofday=noon
--enable-auto-coordination --aircraft=lightning



FGTable: row lookup is not monotonically increasing
  in row 13 of table in AugThrust:
  2.07=2.2


Aircraft propulsion element has problems in file
/home/fgfs/FGData/fgdata//Aircraft/Lightning/lightning-f1a.xml
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Segmentation fault

*ZLT-NT*

 ./fgfs --disable-fullscreen --geometry=800x600
--disable-real-weather-fetch --airport=TNCM --timeofday=noon
--enable-auto-coordination --aircraft=ZLT-NT


No feed tank specified in engine definition.
  Property fcs/pilot/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/thrust-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/thrust-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/thrust-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/mixture-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/mixture-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/mixture-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
No VALUE supplied for switch component:
fcs/dual-control/propeller-speed-pos-nor
m[0]
No VALUE supplied for switch component:
fcs/dual-control/propeller-speed-pos-nor
m[1]
No VALUE supplied for switch component:
fcs/dual-control/propeller-speed-pos-nor
m[2]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/mixture-pos-norm[0]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/mixture-pos-norm[1]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/mixture-pos-norm[2]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/thrust-pos-norm[0]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/thrust-pos-norm[1]
No VALUE supplied for switch component: fcs/dual-control/thrust-pos-norm[2]
  Property /engines/engine[0]/egt-degf is already defined.
  Property /engines/engine[0]/oil-temperature-degf is already defined.
  Property fcs/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/propeller-speed-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
  Property fcs/mixture-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/mixture-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/mixture-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
  Property fcs/thrust-cmd-norm[0] is already defined.
  Property fcs/thrust-cmd-norm[1] is already defined.
  Property fcs/thrust-cmd-norm[2] is already defined.
FGPropertyManager::GetNode() No node found for
fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[0
]
  In condition: fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[0] LT 0.0. Unknown
property fcs/
etc/throttle-controller-pid[0] referenced.
Creating property.  Check usage.
FGPropertyManager::GetNode() No node found for
fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[1
]
  In condition: fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[1] LT 0.0. Unknown
property fcs/
etc/throttle-controller-pid[1] referenced.
Creating property.  Check usage.
FGPropertyManager::GetNode() No node found for
fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[2
]
  In condition: fcs/etc/throttle-controller-pid[2] LT 0.0. Unknown
property fcs/
etc/throttle-controller-pid[2] referenced.
Creating property.  Check usage.
  Property fcs/pilot/pitch-cmd-norm is already defined.
  Property fcs/pilot/yaw-cmd-norm is already defined.

Error loading aerodynamic function in aero/force/L_htail_alpha:
  FGTable: row lookup is not monotonically increasing
  in row 21 of table in aero/force/L_htail_alpha:
  0=0
 Aborting.

Aircraft aerodynamics element has problems in file
/home/fgfs/FGData/fgdata//Air
craft/ZLT-NT/ZLT-NT.xml
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Segmentation fault

*Nordstern*

 ./fgfs --disable-fullscreen --geometry=800x600
--disable-real-weather-fetch --airport=TNCM --timeofday=noon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Alan Teeder

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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes


  Lightning works fine here.

 Here it does not. Pulled flightgear, simgear and fgdata today, compiled
 simgear and flightgear.

 Error logs attached.

 I was entertaining the theory that something is wrong in the way I update
 fgdata, but while git status lists a couple of files as having
 differences, that are files I know should be different because I changed
 them. No aircraft is listed as being different.

 I was also entertaining the hypothesis that my binary is somehow wrong -
 but I see that the framerate while the splash screen is shown is with
 today's binary limited to 2 (used to show hundreds) - just as described on
 the list.

 So, I am somewhat at a loss what is going wrong here. The double // in the
 directory shown after  Aircraft propulsion element has problems... is
 somewhat suggestive of something weird - but I don't understand why that
 would affect only a limited number of aircraft while plenty of others work
 just fine.

 Cheers,

 * Thorsten



 *Lightning*

 ./fgfs --disable-fullscreen --geometry=800x600
 --disable-real-weather-fetch --airport=TNCM --timeofday=noon
 --enable-auto-coordination --aircraft=lightning



 FGTable: row lookup is not monotonically increasing
  in row 13 of table in AugThrust:
  2.07=2.2


I reported this a short time ago with a suggested patch, which was promptly 
committed.

I suggest that you do a git diff to check that you really do have the latest 
and greatest version.

It is a sad fact that git pull does not bring everything up to date in the 
same way that cvs and svn do.

Alan 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Erik Hofman
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:15 +0200, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote:
  Lightning works fine here.
 
 Here it does not. Pulled flightgear, simgear and fgdata today, compiled
 simgear and flightgear.
 
 Error logs attached.

Could it be you're running on Windows?
Thinks like case insensitive filenames and wrong slashes could be the
problem then for instance.

Erik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote:

 fgdata, but while git status lists a couple of files as having
 differences, that are files I know should be different because I changed
 them. No aircraft is listed as being different.

The inter-dependencies in the Base Package between seemlingly unrelated
pieces have grown _that_ much, that you'd probably better start from a
clean checkout (have a backup of your customized files  ;-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote:

 It is a sad fact that git pull does not bring everything up to date in the 
 same way that cvs and svn do.

git checkout -f !?
From my perspective that one's a lot better that CVS for example, which
had been dropping changes silently 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread thorsten . i . renk
 fgdata, but while git status lists a couple of files as having
 differences, that are files I know should be different because I changed
 them. No aircraft is listed as being different.

 The inter-dependencies in the Base Package between seemlingly unrelated
 pieces have grown _that_ much, that you'd probably better start from a
 clean checkout (have a backup of your customized files  ;-)

Hm, wiping fgdata and reinstalling seems to have made the Lightning fly
again - nice.

Problem is - I have no clue why, or what I did wrong with my fgdata
management.

I get fgdata by unpacking a bundle, followed by an update, i.e.

git clone fgdata.bundle fgdata
cd fgdata
git checkout -b master origin/master

followed by

git pull git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git master

inside fgdata/ which I repeat every now and then, after which files are
transferred and I did definitely observe some changes (in the shaders for
instance).

I did (naively perhaps) change some files inside fgdata, and indeed

git status

gave a list of precisely those files as out of sync - which didn't really
worry me. But evidence suggests that in fact a lot more was not updated
for whatever reason.

So what did I do wrong, and what should I do differently in the future?

* Thorsten


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[Flightgear-devel] Wiki article about GIT: commiting changes wrong?

2010-11-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,

I try since yesterday to commit my changes to fix the broken 737-300.
I made a complete fresh and clean clone, and followed the tutorial in the wiki:
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/FlightGear_Git_on_Windows#Commiting_changes

Problem: it shows the whole changes since the beginning of the FlightGear 
project which would be later as well in the merge request.

Can it be that this tutorial isn't really correct?
Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks in advance
Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote:

 I did (naively perhaps) change some files inside fgdata, and indeed

 git status

 gave a list of precisely those files as out of sync - which didn't really
 worry me. But evidence suggests that in fact a lot more was not updated
 for whatever reason.

 So what did I do wrong, and what should I do differently in the future?

git will not merge anything into your local branch when it 
contains uncommitted changes. git pull ought to have complained about 
that. (And it sure does here.)

So commit your local changes to your local branch, then you can
synchronize with upstream using

git pull master-fgdata master

or

git fetch master-fgdata
git rebase remotes/master-fgdata/master

I prefer the latter as that keeps my local changes last in the commit 
graph.

I also recommend creating a named remote for the master repository.
git remote add master-fgdata git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git

(You could name it origin to cut the ties to the bundle and make the 
repository behave more normal.)

Cheers,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Anders Gidenstam wrote:

 git will not merge anything into your local branch when it
 contains uncommitted changes. git pull ought to have complained about
 that. (And it sure does here.)

Or not. sigh. It was too long since I used git pull. It does indeed merge 
despite local changes.

Still I strongly recommend rebasing to collect your local changes at the 
end, which for committers would also tend to keep the main history neatly 
linear.

 git fetch master-fgdata
 git rebase remotes/master-fgdata/master

 I prefer the latter as that keeps my local changes last in the commit
 graph.

Cheers,

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[Flightgear-devel] 737-300- Can some merge it ?

2010-11-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,

Finally I managed to create a merge request for the 737-300.

Here you go:
http://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/merge_requests/58

Btw. as reminder there are some other merge requests by other developers 
waiting...

Thanks
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Geoff McLane
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:33 +0200, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote:
  fgdata, but while git status lists a couple of files as having
  differences, that are files I know should be different because I changed
  them. No aircraft is listed as being different.
 

Hi Thorsten,

For me 'git pull' will fail on an update if I have 
changed files in the local repo... even the smallest 
change... it mumbles something about a 'merge' failed...

I have to do - when 'git status' shows changed, tracked
files - is 'git add changed-file-name', for each change, then
'git commit -m message --author you y...@dot.com changed-file-name'
to commit these changes to my local repo...

Likewise, if I do 'git diff' and differences are shown, then I
'know' I have uncommitted changes, which will show up in
a git status, and I do the above 'add'  'commit'...

Now the changes are committed, 'git diff' shows nothing, git
status may continue to show some 'untracked' changed files... I
forget about these...

Now to see the diff between me and the master repo, I do -
git format-patch -o ../../patches origin/master

It certainly seems easier to get a 'git' repo into a 'bad'
state. I used to do such repo updates in a blind batch process,
but with git, I have returned to manual so I can take the
time to read 'exactly' what git reported, or did not
report ;=))

Hope this helps...

Regards,

Geoff.



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[Flightgear-devel] Error 503 when requesting merge- answer by gitorious.org

2010-11-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,

Trying to get a merge request, I got several 503-error messages.

So wrote a mail to gitorious.org asking why, and where the problem could be and 
the answer was quite interesting for our project as I find:

Quote by Marius, gitorious.org:
The target repository
had been pushed to 13 times since its last gc, so this may have been
the issue. I just ran a gc on this just now.

It may also be that the repository is really large, I think the fgdata
repository is the biggest one on gitorious.org with its 2.1 GB -
congratulations!
If the size of the repository is what causes the problem, I'm afraid
there isn't all that much to do apart from coding around it. Try
creating the request again and let me know how it turns out.

A merge request was now possible only after several tryings.
As I understand the answer, we slowly come to our limits there.

That let me again encourage to discuss to split the fgdata into several parts 
like Aircraft, Models etc...

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Csaba Halász
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:15 AM,  thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote:

   Lightning works fine here.

 Here it does not. Pulled flightgear, simgear and fgdata today, compiled
 simgear and flightgear.

 *Lightning*

 FGTable: row lookup is not monotonically increasing
  in row 13 of table in AugThrust:
  2.07=2.2

That has been fixed 15 days ago, see here
http://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/96b4fe0313d534e9c747f18777919961bffc30dc
and 
http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg29370.html

Sounds like as if you really have a problem with your fgdata checkout.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki article about GIT: commiting changes wrong?

2010-11-25 Thread Gijs de Rooy

Hi Heiko,

 I try since yesterday to commit my changes to fix the broken 737-300.
 I made a complete fresh and clean clone, and followed the tutorial in the 
 wiki:
 http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/FlightGear_Git_on_Windows#Commiting_changes
 
 Problem: it shows the whole changes since the beginning of the FlightGear 
 project which would be later as well in the merge request.
 
 Can it be that this tutorial isn't really correct?
 Is there something I'm missing?

Could be. It was mostly written by me, based on things that worked for me, but 
are not necesarily the best (or not even good).

 Finally I managed to create a merge request for the 737-300

Congrats! Will you add the steps you followed to achieve this to the wiki? 
That's the idea behind a wiki after all ;)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nonfunctional airplanes

2010-11-25 Thread Csaba Halász
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Csaba Halász csaba.hal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds like as if you really have a problem with your fgdata checkout.

And I have a problem with replying to old mail :)
Never mind the noise.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki article about GIT: commiting changes wrong?

2010-11-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Gijs,

Could be. It was mostly written by me, based on things that worked for me, but 
are not necesarily the best (or not even good).
AndersG gave me once in the IRC-Chat an how-to, which worked as well- 
unfortunately I lost the documentation

Congrats! Will you add the steps you followed to achieve this to the wiki? 
That's the idea behind a wiki after all ;)
I used exactly the same steps like you described in the wiki. My problem was a 
503error when requesting the merge. And according to gitorious.org our repo 
seems coming more and more to the limits. 
Quote Marius, gitorious.org:One thing that would help immensely is to split 
the repository into
several, perhaps using git submodules. I realize this requires some
effort on your hand, discussions about reorganizing code can grow into
flame wars in large projects - I know :-)
Well...
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki article about GIT: commiting changes wrong?

2010-11-25 Thread Tim Moore
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote:



 Congrats! Will you add the steps you followed to achieve this to the wiki?
 That's the idea behind a wiki after all ;)


 I used exactly the same steps like you described in the wiki. My problem
 was a 503error when requesting the merge. And according to gitorious.orgour 
 repo seems coming more and more to the limits.


 Quote Marius, gitorious.org:

 *One thing that would help immensely is to split the repository into
 several, perhaps using git submodules. I realize this requires some
 effort on your hand, discussions about reorganizing code can grow into
 flame wars in large projects - I know :-)*

 *
 *

 Well..

We're aware of the problem. Recent changes to the code have made it more
practical to split the aircraft directories into different repositories.
I've started this work.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic

2010-11-25 Thread Gijs de Rooy

 Curtis Olson wrote:

 I made a few tweaks and posted a copy of this here:

http://www.flightgear.org/flightprosim.html
 
The wiki article has been updated to reflect the official statement. It is 
being linked to by a growing number
of websites/forums, including some major ones like SimFlight.com and 
FlightSim.com. Contacting some 
simulator/computer websites in our home-countries, is the least we all could 
do...

Cheers,
Gijs
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[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: FlightGear nominated as most revolutionary open source

2010-11-25 Thread Curtis Olson
Download sites often like to sponsor contests and give awards to promote
themselves.  If anyone wants to play along and vote for our project, the
details are attached below.

Thanks!

Curt.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Benjamin Segura
Date: 2010/11/25
Subject: FlightGear nominated as most revolutionary open source
To: curt0...@flightgear.org


Hi Curtis,

I am Benjamin, from PortalProgramas.com, an spanish download site. I am
proud to announce that FlightGear has reached the final round in the
category: Best open source game which gives a donation of EUR 300 to the
winner:
http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios/proyecto/63

FlightGear is very near to get it this year! I hope you like it and vote for
it!

Good luck!
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