Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Oct 2011, at 01:28, Gary Neely wrote: The #1 reason I haven't added my projects (MD-81, Grumman Goose, Edgley Optica, Velocity XL RG) to the repository is that I have no ability to perform my own commits. Possibly I haven't earned the right and I can understand that. But I would like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 10.24, James Turner wrote: Actually, that's not quite accurate, but, the procedure is to ask, *having demonstrated yourself to be a sane and reasonable person who's likely to stick around longer than four weeks*. I'm a bit more liberal in this regard, but essentially anyone who's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Gary, The #1 reason I haven't added my projects (MD-81, Grumman Goose, Edgley Optica, Velocity XL RG) to the repository is that I have no ability to perform my own commits. Which is exactly one of the things that we're working on with the FGData

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 27.10.11 10:24, schrieb James Turner: 'we' (the infamous FlightGear we) should probably write a wiki page of aircraft-contributor-etiquette, so we have grounds to revoke people's access if they break the rules. Though just about the only rules I'm aware of : keep it GPL;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hope so ;-) With the current setup you can for example commit (and accept merge requests) for your EC130:https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft/ec130 But I want to give commit rights to my wife to my repo, without asking you, can I do that ? Why not ? What gives the team the right to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 11.35, Heiko Schulz wrote: And who makes sure and decides that those people really keeps to all those rules? The project lead (or leader) should make decisions and of course be well in tune with the lead developers, developers, and with the fg community. As a bystander it is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Oct 2011, at 10:35, Heiko Schulz wrote: The procedure is to ask :) Aha, really?- in the 5-6 years I'm contributing to FlightGear-Project I did this twice. I never got an answer. And until now I can only guess what was the reasons for. Problem is, as you already realised - *I* don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a single leader, the fact that project does 'okay' without very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 14.29, Curtis Olson wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a single leader, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jari Häkkinen -- Thursday 27 October 2011: Didn't Franz Melchior loose some interest in fg due to a freedom clash. I didn't lose interest in fg -- I only lost interest in developing for FlightGear after the project leader let one developer push the project in a very bad direction, and for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 27.10.2011 16:06, schrieb Melchior FRANZ: a leader is someone who*leads*. Leadership by not leading (and being proud of it) isn't a leadership style in my book. There are many kinds of leadership: authoritative, cooperative, relaxed, [..] The trick is to pick the best for the current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs hangs while loading scenery

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Sgier
In my git when looking at airport objects they're loaded but unloaded when looking elsewhere!- So there's always a huge lag when looking back on the airport and you can see the objects being loaded again one after the other. This is very annoying, if someone knows thanks for fixing otherways