Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi,

I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from:
http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads
FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need.

I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems running 
the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old MacBook 
pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs.

The "special" package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build 
FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, apple 
gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make FG 
compatible with 10.7 and 10.5.

Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving day 
to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made the 
Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p

Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization 
flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static 
class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool 
that I can trust. 

Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the 
latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's 
better to have working binary.

Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users.

Tat

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On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olson  wrote:

> Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)
> 
> Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking 
> you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues 
> still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't know much 
> about the Mac side of things.
> 
> BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for 
> me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Curt.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka  wrote:
> Curt,
> 
> There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
> It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
> So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.
> 
> I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason 
> not to upgrade.
> 
> Tat
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
> 
> > Hi Tat,
> >
> > Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
> > people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but 
> > I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to 
> > upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?
> >
> > Curt.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka  
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 
> > for now).
> >
> > Please download it from:
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
> >
> > Note:
> > Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
> >
> > Tat
> >
> > ---
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> > http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/
> >
> >
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> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 13

2012-02-18 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
Le 19/02/2012 00:55, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a 
écrit :
> Send Flightgear-devel mailing list submissions to
>   flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>
>>> Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html
> Firefox 3.6.26 doesn't show anything either, just a mostly blank gray page.
>
> -Gary

Work perfectly with Firefox 10.0.2

http://helijah.free.fr/blender/ff.png

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)

Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you
thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these
issues still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't
know much about the Mac side of things.

BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for
me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8

Thanks again,

Curt.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote:

> Curt,
>
> There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
> It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
> So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.
>
> I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some
> reason not to upgrade.
>
> Tat
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
>
> > Hi Tat,
> >
> > Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage
> people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but
> I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to
> upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?
> >
> > Curt.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7
> for now).
> >
> > Please download it from:
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
> >
> > Note:
> > Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
> >
> > Tat
> >
> > ---
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> > http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Curt,

There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.

I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason 
not to upgrade.

Tat


On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:

> Hi Tat,
> 
> Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
> people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm 
> not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to 
> OSX 10.6 or newer?
> 
> Curt.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for 
> now).
> 
> Please download it from:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
> 
> Note:
> Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
> 
> Tat
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Tat,

Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage
people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but
I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to
upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?

Curt.


On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote:

> Hi,
>
> FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7
> for now).
>
> Please download it from:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
>
> Note:
> Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
>
> Tat
>
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> http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/
>
>
>
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi,

FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for 
now).

Please download it from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/

Note:
Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.

Tat

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 8

2012-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:09:57 +0100, BARANGER wrote in message 
<4f3b6855.1000...@free.fr>:

> Le 15/02/2012 00:58, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a 
> écrit :
> 
> Hey Ant,

..me, I try to be wiser than those 6 legged critters. ;o)

> You cite in your response the write of Clement, but it's wrong !
> > The original author of basic XML animation for model is Emmanuel
> > Baranger The original author of instruments panel is Alexis Laille
> 
> Absolutely and totally false! The first version, albeit a very
> simple, is my work. Alexis Laille has nothing to do with that!

..but did he write _another_ instrument panel _from_scratch_, 
or, did he _build_upon_your_ very simple one?  
Goes between "Big Difference!!!" thru "it depends."

> I have a habit of always (or almost)

..always!=almost always, Big Time[tm], so you wanna bridge your own
"almost" abyss, or risk more of these accusations, due to your own 
sloppy habits.  Easiest way may be simply publish a list of which 
aircraft you published without any instrument panel.

> provide a minimum panel for "my" 
> aircrafts before they are available online.
> 
> "my" aircrafts: Not because they are mine, but simply because they
> are available in my hangar.

..which is where you publish your and other people's FG work under 
the GPL. 

> > But here it's not the problem of "who is the author model". The
> > problem is => the minimum politeness is to ask to the PAF team if we
> > accept to see our contributions committed.
> 
> It's the world upside down here. These people change and improve a 
> project that I started alone.

..did they publish their work on e.g. a website for you to fetch
to include into your work?

> And it is me that must to ask permission. 

..those who have no license, _must_ ask for one such permission, 
or risk facing the wrath of copyright law.  Depends on _who_ owns 
_what_, again.

> Many authors aircrafts will die laughing when they read
> that.

..and some find themselves having to apologize themselves 
out of a smoking crater.

> Vivian, I'm sorry for that answer, but I can not really let write
> lies that implicate my credibility and my seriousness.

...or that of any FG code.

> It is sad to see these people try by all means to destroy and damage
> FG. But I know that everyone here will judge with intelligence and
> wisdom.

..you assume mr Quisling was _the_only_ quisling.  We have quite 
a few more such stories over at http://groklaw.net/ , Mono and C#
are but 2 such with nice code by nice and competent people trying 
to setup copyright or patent litigation traps on GPL people.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:37:16 +, Stuart wrote in message 
:

> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Emilian Huminiuc wrote:
> 
> > 3. For urban/town areas I would do the same with water-tower.ac
> > (for the same reasons as #2).  

> This is probably a bug from me not keeping materials-dds.xml and
> materials.xml in step.  water-tower.ac should be present for towns,
> but not urban areas.

..we don't need them in hilly areas, put the tanks on the ground
or make them dams.  I've see rectangular tanks, blends more into
the neighborhood, andround tanks are easily mistaken for fuel 
tanks rather than water tanks. 

..I've seen water towers in urban areas too, (in Sweden,) but 
_never_ in hilly areas. Such water "tower" tanks rest on the 
ground or may be in caverns inside the hills, e.g. for costs 
and civil defense reasons.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2012-02-18 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 18.02.2012 10:55, schrieb Heiko Schulz:
>
 I have created now a merge Request including the ratings of aircraft 
 I>>>have been involved, I hope it is not too late.
>>>
>>> It is :-(
>>>
>
>> Of course, it's never too late to be included in the master branch,
>> which means that it will be part of 2.8.0 coming out in 6 months from
>> now.
>
>> But, submissions for the 2.6.0 release (with the exceptions of bugfixes)>  
>> were closed one month ago.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Durk
>
>
>
> I missed the frozen/red state datum, should take it in my calendar :-(
>
> Looking forward to the next stop 2.8.0, I would be happy if someone could 
> merge my changes it into master! :-)

Sorry, your merge request contains some 20 or so merges. Please submit a 
new, clean merge-request. (Hint: use git-rebase instead of git-merge on 
your local repository)

Torsten


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[Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2012-02-18 Thread Heiko Schulz

>>> I have created now a merge Request including the ratings of aircraft I 
>>> >>>have been involved, I hope it is not too late.
>> 
>> It is :-(
>> 

> Of course, it's never too late to be included in the master branch,
> which means that it will be part of 2.8.0 coming out in 6 months from
> now. 

> But, submissions for the 2.6.0 release (with the exceptions of bugfixes) > 
> were closed one month ago.

> Cheers,
> Durk



I missed the frozen/red state datum, should take it in my calendar :-(

Looking forward to the next stop 2.8.0, I would be happy if someone could merge 
my changes it into master! :-)

Regards
Heiko




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page (was Re: Fair practice & autorisations)

2012-02-18 Thread Durk Talsma

On 18 Feb 2012, at 07:15, Torsten Dreyer wrote:

> Am 18.02.2012 01:04, schrieb Heiko Schulz:
>> I have created now a merge Request including the ratings of aircraft I have 
>> been involved, I hope it is not too late.
> 
> It is :-(
> 

Of course, it's never too late to be included in the master branch, which means 
that it will be part of 2.8.0 coming out in 6 months from now. 

But, submissions for the 2.6.0 release (with the exceptions of bugfixes) were 
closed one month ago.

Cheers,
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