Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms (was: New styled FGFS--Manual)

2012-02-29 Thread Jörg Emmerich
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 12:06 +0200, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: Naturally, LaTeX is not some click-it tool, it's a powerful and flexible tool, and so it must be learned. Which is work, and that's not well-taken in the shiny Web 2.0 world, so... the digital natives can't do it. They have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual --2

2012-02-29 Thread Jörg Emmerich
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 14:28 +, Stuart Buchanan wrote: The main thrust of your proposal is to change the current process, which can broadly be described as: Latex - PDF/HTML to one where you have Wiki - HTML AFAICT , we gain: - easier editing for those not familiar with Latex -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms

2012-02-29 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Actually I wonder a little why you accept using a modern tool like LaTeX being just 20 years old - while we all learned that the optimum scholar-environment was developed by the old Greeks (to my knowledge without any computers and/or LaTeX) -- after that we never had such a development of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Emilian Huminiuc
On Tuesday 28 February 2012 23:14:18 D-NXKT wrote: The smoke is particle system based and thus uses a slightly different mechanism -- is the smoke really still reversed? The steam off the catapult on the Vinson is correct. Wind heading is typically the direction the wind is coming from, not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. 1a. wind turbine orientation and rotation/spin speed is bound to /environment/wind-from-heading-deg and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms

2012-02-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 29.02.12 11:17, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: Spring has come. LaTex and Wikibooks got married. Have a look: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX LaTeX is a featured book on Wikibooks because it contains substantial content, it is well-formatted, and the Wikibooks community has decided to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms (was: New styled

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Spott
Jörg Emmerich wrote: ~20 years ago: Those wonderful PDF-files were introduced - we now could even transfer documents from one PC to another - even with different Operating Systems and/or different printer capabilities! That was also when LaTeX was developed [...] I'll skip all the other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread thorsten . i . renk
1a. wind turbine orientation and rotation/spin speed is bound to /environment/wind-from-heading-deg and /environment/wind-speed-kt which represent current wind at the FDM position. This should probably change to ground wind. The same is true for the windsock, btw. Turbines should probably use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: Spring has come. LaTex and Wikibooks got married. Have a look: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX I guess the missing link would be an option to writing a Wiki using genuine LaTeX syntax and templates. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web 2.0 paradigms

2012-02-29 Thread thorsten . i . renk
~20 years ago: Those wonderful PDF-files were introduced - we now could even transfer documents from one PC to another - even with different Operating Systems and/or different printer capabilities! That was also when LaTeX was developed [...] I'll skip all the other stuff because I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Erik Hofman
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:43 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. I was wondering, shouldn't all wind turbines share the same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 29.02.2012 12:25, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: Wind turbines are probably too heavy to swing with the gusts in any significant way. Hehe - yes. Drag chute of the English Electric Lightining was also displayed blown into the wind at some point - might be related? That should be an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 29.02.2012 13:05, schrieb Erik Hofman: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:43 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. I was wondering, shouldn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread TDO Brandano
I also suspect that the speed of wind turbines is not just directly proportional to wind speed. As far as I know, the speed is generally regulated either by increasing the turbine load or by changing the blade pitch, to avoid them getting damaged in high wind. In extreme gusty gales they are

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Olivier
I was wondering, shouldn't all wind turbines share the same configuration file? They do. But their heading declaration (as an object position) in the db (which is later generated as a STG file may be different, just like any other object. It depends on the guy who submitted it. That's why

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Whatever you do to fix it, please note that there is more than one windturbine model ;) E.g. this one I created recently: http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=2418 IIRC it has the same animation setup, just different numbers.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stuart and Curt, live on FSBreak!

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Spott
Gijs de Rooy wrote: Curt and Stuart are promoting FligthGear live right now! Do they have a recording available for download ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stuart and Curt, live on FSBreak!

2012-02-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: Gijs de Rooy wrote: Curt and Stuart are promoting FligthGear live right now! Do they have a recording available for download ? Stuart, did I hear right that they expected to have the episode uploaded by today or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stuart and Curt, live on FSBreak!

2012-02-29 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Martin wrote: Do they have a recording available for download ? The recording isn't online yet, but their latest episode took 6 days to show up online, so I think we can expect it by the end of the week :-) It was a very nice interview, interesting questions and our boys did great! Sadly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stuart and Curt, live on FSBreak!

2012-02-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curt and Stuart are promoting FligthGear live right now! Do they have a recording available for download ? Try : http://fr.twitch.tv/fsbreak/b/309747803 -Fred -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Stockill
On 29/02/12 17:06, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Whatever you do to fix it, please note that there is more than one windturbine model ;) E.g. this one I created recently: http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=2418 IIRC it has the same animation setup, just different numbers. It seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind

2012-02-29 Thread Ron Jensen
On Monday 27 February 2012 13:15:39 Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I don't have an idea, why - maybe that's been the default in PPE, AC3D or whichever tool. Jon made me aware of this issue many years ago (when we started filling the scenery objects database) and, as far as I