-Original Message-
From: Martin Spott
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:00 AM Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Willfully violating Google Terms of Use underthe
FlightGear umbrella ?
Alan Teeder wrote:
From: Martin Spott
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5t=15711p=152972sid=0383829e2324ecb1bc0c0ed67655e826#p152945
The original question did refer to paper maps.
Indeed, so why doesn't this jerk just develop a sensible on-topic reply
instead of posting
Dear Martin,
I disagree that you sign a contract when looking at printed maps. You
cannot establish a contract by stating: by looking at this map, you
agree to X Y and Z.
However, at least in Germany where the original question came from,
there are separate laws protecting Geodata from reuse,
Johannes,
Johannes Ebke wrote:
On 12.03.2012 09:38, Martin Spott wrote:
The issue in question, neither with Google imagery nor with most
printed maps, is _not_ about Copyright. Instead, by buying a printed
map or by using Google Earth, you're signing a contract over how you're
allowed to
On Monday 12 March 2012 11:17:05 Martin Spott wrote:
No, not by looking at a map, but by buying a printed map - which is
what I stated above. Since you hardly get your hands onto commercial,
printed maps (which I believe is the item we're talking about) without
the act of buying the media,
Stefan Seifert wrote:
For example at least in Germany and Austria but problably most of Europe,
these Terms of Use printed on the map are no more legally binding than an
End User License Agreement which many programs display on first start. That
is because in these jurisdictions, one
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:51:16 -0700, syd wrote in message
CABS5FFOT8DrHfY63Aw=keqvrb7oh31qjg0fymgxjny2efps...@mail.gmail.com:
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Syd,
That was a hack from the very early days of the project, so if it
went away, it
Martin Spott wrote:
Stefan Seifert wrote:
For example at least in Germany and Austria but problably most of Europe,
these Terms of Use printed on the map are no more legally binding than an
End User License Agreement which many programs display on first start.
That
is because in these
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There is a big difference between republishing a printed work and using
it for a derivative, such as deducting measurements from a (paper) map
to make a computer model of the streets or buildings which are also
represented on the map.
First off, in the case of a direct republish, the map's
Robin van Steenbergen wrote:
In case of a building or airport modeled off a map, how is the original
map-maker going to recognize that the runway (12000ft long) was actually
derived from *his* map?
I'd like to emphasize that willfully violating the terms of use of a
map should always be
Op 12-3-2012 14:33, Martin Spott schreef:
Robin van Steenbergen wrote:
In case of a building or airport modeled off a map, how is the original
map-maker going to recognize that the runway (12000ft long) was actually
derived from *his* map?
I'd like to emphasize that willfully violating the
Robin van Steenbergen wrote:
Op 12-3-2012 14:33, Martin Spott schreef:
I'd like to emphasize that willfully violating the terms of use of a
map should always be considered as being illegal and therefore
unwelcomed (particularly in FlightGear land), no matter wether the
map-maker can actually
Op 12-3-2012 15:26, Martin Spott schreef:
That's an interesting case and we probably had a similar one recently
in Germany. Did they try to sue anyone who *published* these
photographs (on their private Picasa/Flickr/Panoramio or other albums)
or just those who *sold* photographs ? Cheers,
I think that the licence status notice on Wikipedia's Atomium photograph page
pretty much explains it all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atomium_20-08-07.jpg
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:17:55 +0100
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Subject: Re:
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From: Robin van Steenbergen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Willfully violating Google Terms of Use
They actually tried to sue anyone who published photographs of the
Atomium, either on
Check this: http://atomium.be/?lang=en#/AuthorsRights.aspx?lang=en
That's the power of aberration, abuse of rights, abuse of free
expression/freedom... and whatever you may imagine.
About any software (including googlemaps/google earth) which put in
abusive protective license. Add in, no reverse
Since I'm willing to contribute to the landscape improvement (my area is
very poorly covered) I'm wondering if the informations at
http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:_Create_custom_scenery are still valid.
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Hi, I'm the one who asked about the legal situation of using elevation data
from a topographic map.
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5t=15711p=152972sid=0383829e2324ecb1bc0c0ed67655e826#p152945
I checked with the institution that provides these maps and they said
they're _not_
Hi Roberto,
Since I'm willing to contribute to the landscape improvement (my area is
very poorly covered) I'm wondering if
the informations at http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:_Create_custom_scenery
are still valid.
That tutorial should still work. I've updated it last year to QGIS
Am 12.03.2012 18:25, schrieb andrea...@gmx.net:
Hi, I'm the one who asked about the legal situation of using elevation
data from a topographic map.
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5t=15711p=152972sid=0383829e2324ecb1bc0c0ed67655e826#p152945
I checked with the institution
Il 12/03/2012 18:56, Gijs de Rooy ha scritto:
Hi Roberto,
Since I'm willing to contribute to the landscape improvement (my area
is very poorly covered) I'm wondering if
the informations at
http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:_Create_custom_scenery
I don't know about the actual merge with existing scenery, other should answer
that question ;)
That's my area as FlightGear Landcover-DB-VMap0:
http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=13.33004lat=38.18341zoom=12layers=0B00TFFTTFFF
That's the same area as seen by Google maps:
I don't know about the actual merge with existing scenery, other should
answer that question ;)
So you tell me I should simply create new shapefiles (not caring about
the current scenery) and submit them to papillon81 and statto?
That's my area as FlightGear Landcover-DB-VMap0:
...
And
Hi all
Just wanted to add a note once that a company in the U.S. is trying to
register terrasync as a wordmark. Maybe it is not worth to think
about, anyway I am not familiar with this kind of happenings. But I was
asked to post this to the list, so it’s here.
Cheers, Yves
Hi all,
I would like to give my support to Olivier about the merge request :
https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/merge_requests/139
This merge request contains the Garmin GPS196. I use it in real life with my
aircraft and I'd take pleased to see it in fgdata.
I invite anybody with commit's right
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