I still think we need another license for sceneries etc. ... not allowing any
commmercial use.
Why? Freedom Zero matters just as much for things other than code.
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On 09/05/2012 07:50 AM, Michael wrote:
No, FlightProSim and whatever they're called.
I still think we need another license for sceneries etc. Anything but code
should be possible to license similar to GPL, but not allowing any
commmercial use.
Disallowing commercial use means Linux
hi, I am trying to package 2.8.0 in my Linux Mageia system, which
already brings 2.6.0 in rpms.
The 2.8 compilation fails with below error, any hints please? Is it a
new build dependency?
[ 4%] Building CXX object src/FDM/YASim/CMakeFiles/yasim.dir/FGFDM.cpp.o
On 4 Sep 2012, at 23:09, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote:
commit 6745d27691039e2ce477b2e823dbae6c59bc5d00
Author: ThorstenB
Date: Tue Sep 4 23:57:25 2012 +0200
#858: Fix loading issue with aircraft models in --fg-aircraft directories
Something after FG 2.8.0 has broken loading
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:14 +0100, Alasdair wrote:
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 21:58 +0100, Alasdair wrote:
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:34 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view
you'll be able to see messages like :
Looks like its not bothering to link against libm (the system math library)
On 5/09/2012 7:53 PM, zezinho lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote:
hi, I am trying to package 2.8.0 in my Linux Mageia system, which
already brings 2.6.0 in rpms.
The 2.8 compilation fails with below error, any hints please?
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Erik Hofman wrote:
On 09/05/2012 07:50 AM, Michael wrote:
No, FlightProSim and whatever they're called.
I still think we need another license for sceneries etc. Anything but code
should be possible to license similar to GPL, but not allowing any
commmercial
On 5 Sep 2012, at 09:06, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
On a practical note I'd also point out that some FG development has
been paid for through the commercial use of FG. In the past I've been
paid to develop simulations for my local museum of flight, the results
of which have been fed back into
I can confirm that it (--fg-aircraft directories)was broken,and was about to
investigate further when ThorstenB made it work again. Thanks.
I think that the bug appeared very recently, perhaps within the last 2
weeks, but cannot be 100% sure when
Alan
-Original Message-
From: James
While we are on the topic, I'd like to take a different perspective.
There are a number of source data files (eg: national SRTM-1 data)
that is provided under Creative Commons with license terms very similar
as GPL, however it isn't GPL, but it would appear to have the same aims
as
Am 05.09.12 11:52, schrieb Scott:
While we are on the topic, I'd like to take a different perspective.
There are a number of source data files (eg: national SRTM-1 data)
that is provided under Creative Commons with license terms very similar
as GPL, however it isn't GPL, but it would
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 12:11 +0200, HB-GRAL wrote:
Am 05.09.12 11:52, schrieb Scott:
While we are on the topic, I'd like to take a different perspective.
There are a number of source data files (eg: national SRTM-1 data)
that is provided under Creative Commons with license terms
Scott wrote:
So my question then is, what path is there to incorporate CC content
in scenery that must be GPL???
Under the this is no legal advice-clause I'd say it should allow
derived works to be published under the GPL.
BTW, I'm uncertain if we're having the same SRTM-1 in mind. The last
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 10:35 +, Martin Spott wrote:
Scott wrote:
So my question then is, what path is there to incorporate CC content
in scenery that must be GPL???
Under the this is no legal advice-clause I'd say it should allow
derived works to be published under the GPL.
All
Scott wrote:
But more seriously, I'm no license guru, and you picked one of the main
points I'm not clear on, the original CC in this example is
Share-alike and Derived works allowed with attribution.
It really depends on the particular phrasing in license text.
One of the - various - reasons
Hence I would use the same license to keep off scammers.
(...)
Anything but code should be possible to license similar to GPL, but not
allowing any commmercial use.
My two cents:
First of all, define your use of 'scammer' here. From Wikipedia, I get A
confidence trick is also known as a con
Renk Thorsten wrote:
FlightProSim does not defraud its customers as far as I am aware.
According to reports on this very list (hint) and elsewhere they don't
comply with the money-back guarantee they advertize.
Cheers,
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote:
Renk Thorsten wrote:
FlightProSim does not defraud its customers as far as I am aware.
According to reports on this very list (hint) and elsewhere they don't
comply with the money-back guarantee they advertize.
I
FlightProSim does not defraud its customers as far as I am aware.
According to reports on this very list (hint) and elsewhere they don't
comply with the money-back guarantee they advertize.
Well, since there's always small-print (which I don't know) I would leave that
to the courts to
I have narrowed this problem down further.
Comment out:
instrumentation n=0
pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path
/instrumentation
in c172p-set.xml
Similarly
instrumentation
pathAircraft/b1900d/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote:
I have narrowed this problem down further.
Comment out:
instrumentation n=0
pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path
/instrumentation
in c172p-set.xml
Similarly
instrumentation
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Martin Spott wrote:
Renk Thorsten wrote:
FlightProSim does not defraud its customers as far as I am aware.
According to reports on this very list (hint) and elsewhere they don't
comply with the money-back guarantee they advertize.
Nor do they comply with the GPL from
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:47 +0200, Anders Gidenstam wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote:
I have narrowed this problem down further.
Comment out:
instrumentation n=0
pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path
/instrumentation
in c172p-set.xml
We haven't
been able to pin them down on a specific technical violation of the gpl,
but that doesn't mean they are legitimate, honorable, and ethical.
They're immoral scammers, plain and simple.
It galls me to speak up for FlightProSim, but such statements are, as far as I
am concerned, not
Thorsten,
I think you are over analyzing these guys and giving them far too much
credit. I think the truth is simpler. They only make sales by misleading
the customer into thinking they are getting something else. They cast a
wide net of shady tactics. So the situation (I believe) is closer to
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Renk Thorsten wrote:
We haven't
been able to pin them down on a specific technical violation of the gpl,
but that doesn't mean they are legitimate, honorable, and ethical.
They're immoral scammers, plain and simple.
It galls me to speak up for FlightProSim, but such
. If it was up to me, they'd
be tightly wrapped in wet leather and left in the hot sun as an example to
others considering similar things.
I'd be more than happy to assist you with that.
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Le 05/09/2012 10:06, Chris Forbes a écrit :
Looks like its not bothering to link against libm (the system math
library)
Thank you, but how can I try to force this link?
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The current version of FGRun crashes when the C172p canvas demo aircraft is
selected.
Also Fgrun has moved from SVN to Git.
However on the fg forum someone cannot git pull from
git://gitorious.org/fg/fgrun.git. I have found that
https://git.gitorious.org/fg/fgrun.git works fine.
(All this
Hi,
You can force it by changing the TARGET_LINK_LIBRARIES definition
in src/Canvas/ShivaVG/src/CMakeLists.txt to
TARGET_LINK_LIBRARIES(
ShivaVG
${OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY}
${OPENGL_glu_LIBRARY}
m
)
i.e. the line with the m on it.
But I am wondering why your libGL does not
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:06 +0100, Alasdair wrote:
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:47 +0200, Anders Gidenstam wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote:
I have narrowed this problem down further.
Comment out:
instrumentation n=0
pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path
Hello all,
Since this is my first post here, I'll quickly introduce myself. My name is
Jan Comans and I am currently a PhD student at the Delft University of
Technology with the Control and Simulation (CS) department. My main focus
is on Human-Machine Interaction. Next to my main research, every
I'm very suspicious of this - I don't think there's been any post 2.8 commit
that could change such a core behaviour. (I don't read every single commit in
detail, but I look at the summaries)
The change is certainly valid, but I'd be much happier knowing why it worked
before and what broke
On 5 Sep 2012, at 21:13, ThorstenB wrote:
The XML reader relies on osgDB to resolve paths now. If
osgDB::findDataFile cannot find the file, it returns , in which case
SGModelLib::findDataFile cannot search any additional directories.
So, maybe osgDB::findDataFile doesn't know about extra
..if these scammers feel slandered by that, scammers,
they are entitled to file lawsuits.
..the reason they don't, is they and their lawyers knows
the truth is an allowable and complete defense, and that
judges often award litigation costs to the prevailing
decent truthful people, and to
Am 2012-09-05 21:03, schrieb Alan Teeder:
The current version of FGRun crashes when the C172p canvas demo aircraft
is selected.
Should be fixed now.
Tom
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However, in the past couple of weeks ( after a graphics card update for our
simulator) we started working with FlightGear 2.8.
Thanks a lot for your report! It's really nice and motivating to see
FlightGear being used for serious (research) projects and not just for
fun/gaming. And a full
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:20 PM
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fgrun and canvas demo
Am 2012-09-05 21:03, schrieb Alan Teeder:
The current version of FGRun crashes when the C172p
On Wednesday 05 September 2012 05:04:06 Martin Spott wrote:
Scott wrote:
But more seriously, I'm no license guru, and you picked one of the main
points I'm not clear on, the original CC in this example is
Share-alike and Derived works allowed with attribution.
It really depends on the
Ron Jensen wrote:
On Wednesday 05 September 2012 05:04:06 Martin Spott wrote:
It really depends on the particular phrasing in license text.
One of the - various - reasons for not providing 'official' FlightGear
Scenery with OSM roads is the clause in CC-BY-SA 2.0, which says:
If you
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