Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
wrongdoing from flightgear's perspective. ..realistically, whenever I see such massive rebranding activity on graphic etc binaries, I expect to find some. ;o) Regards... Matthew Regards... Matthew On 11/21/08, James Sleeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..ok, this far I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, let's look at what actions should be taken. Given that I am not a copyright owner, I have nothing at stake beyond community membership. ..me neither. ;o) Actually, he's got a lot more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:41:10 +0100, Frederic wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tim Moore a écrit : Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem.jpg This build is still

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:54:34 +0100, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * James Sleeman -- Saturday 22 November 2008: I think while an ethical debate is good, perhaps flightgear-devel isn't the place really, [...] Don't worry, flightgear-devel is the right place for that. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:15:08 +1300, James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: perhaps the simplest means of resolution would be for the infringing party to take down the screen shots, take their own screen shots, and apologise for the mistake. Agreed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
as quickly. ;o) On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:00:03 +1300, James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..excellent, then you would be in an excellent position to verify there indeed _is_ a house [...] I found none and said so. Err, you can see it yourself, at least the roof

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Non-orthogonal frustums for multi-camera support

2008-11-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:17:37 +0100, Tim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Tippett wrote: How many monitors do you have (so I can see if I can demonstrate that way). 1, unfortunately :) ..a work around idea: use several FG jpg-factory's and watch those from a Konqueror tab

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

2008-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:28:53 +, James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge planes. I would suggest: - Dropping Concorde It is very nice, but also very advanced for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

2008-12-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:30:17 +0100, gerard wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:28:53 +, James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: As can be seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello again, Thanks for your previous assistance - your suggestions were most helpful. Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up the project so that the entire code is not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:52:47 +0100, Durk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:42:02 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:00:32 -0800, John wrote in message 49727f30.90...@mminternet.com: Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: So, how about it? Who is serious about going down that road? I am , for one, which is why I dont get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Failure Management was airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:06:34 + (GMT), Heiko wrote in message 278702.2899...@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com: Hmm... Checked, should work now. Can anyone confirm that? ..yup. -Stuart PS: Heiko - could you check your Reply-To header on your posts? At the moment, every time I hit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CID Movie

2009-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:05:56 -0500, Lee wrote in message 4973e004.7030...@rainmountainsystems.com: I think the link I sent to the CID movie was bad. Try this: http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/CID/Medium/EM-0004-01.mpg ..they both worked ok for me, I used wget and kmplayer. Here are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A special day and a special livery

2009-01-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:27:15 +0100, francesco wrote in message 497641b3.9050...@brisa.homelinux.net: Torsten Dreyer ha scritto: Hi everybody, this is a very special day, not only for you in the US. Have a sneak preview here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/uhu-one_1.jpg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:06:42 +0100, gerard wrote in message 200901211406.42997.ghma...@gmail.com: On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: [...] Modified Files: Boeing314A.xml Log Message: Add the license statement

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:21:50 -0600, Jon wrote in message 003501c97c27$6d008850$470198...@net: We may go on to keep our model and our code protected under GPL license. Only an information regarding the copyright for such private Name: Boeing..Lockheed.. and so on could be necessary.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:26:02 -0600, Jon wrote in message 003901c97c38$c8d5fe10$5a81fa...@net: However, if a situation arises in which the aircraft models are to be sold for a profit, please contact us to discuss implementation of a Trademark License Agreement for the sale of consumer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:37:39 +0100, Erik wrote in message 49783053.7020...@ehofman.com: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..no F-g way, they add a restriction beyond the GPL, toss out all Boeing models and replace them all with similar Airbus, Tupolev, Antonov, Shin-Meiwa, Harbin, Dornier, Short

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:42:30 +0100, Erik wrote in message 49783176.9020...@ehofman.com: Jon S. Berndt wrote: Arnt, they are completely within their rights to add that stipulation. You can bet all of the other manufacturers will have the same stipulations. That said, the note/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:43:22 +0100, Melchior wrote in message 200901221243.23...@rk-nord.at: * Jon S. Berndt -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Bingo737 Boing 314? That wouldn't work. It's too similar, as probably any court will find. Actually, David Slocombe had a good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] a few more bugs

2009-01-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:29:25 -0700, John wrote in message 4979d445.3070...@av8n.com: 82::Choppy video and sound. I observe that things work fine when the FlightGear window is the default size, 800x600. The frame rate is in the range 45 to 50. However, if I enlarge the window even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:57:55 -0500, Josh wrote in message 497a0523.9070...@atlantech.net: Curtis Olson wrote: if we had to ditch the ship out there, it could have been really ugly ... Yeah, I hear a water landing in a ship is pretty hard. Better than a runway landing in a ship though :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator'

2009-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:36:36 +, Sid wrote in message 497d13a4.6050...@blueyonder.co.uk: flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: 1. Re: Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' GameStudio (Jon S. Berndt) 2. Re: Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' Game

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft FS Shutdown

2009-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:54:36 -0600, Tom wrote in message 1232938476.19707.15.ca...@big-laptop: Don't kid yourself about MSFS going away anytime soon... For the past couple years, MS has been flooding the market with their commercial-level ESP development environment, for high-end users

Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.9 screenshots

2009-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:58:14 -0600, Curtis wrote in message ef5fc9920901251858p59134c14w5ac28d2aacd31...@mail.gmail.com: I've updated the FlightGear.org web site with v1.9 screen shots. These are all from 2 people so if anyone else has anything nice to add (or possibly replace existing images

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Mainglobals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:25:48 +0100, Daan wrote in message 4983624d.0702d00a.6d1c.2...@mx.google.com: This was a good day! Until someone reported once again how he ran into this stupid ambiguity, and someone else posted a broken fix. And it won't be the last time that this happens. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Mainglobals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:56:14 +0100, Daan wrote in message 4985b810.1c05d00a.0339.2...@mx.google.com: (After getting rid of my ATI card in favor of an nVidia one, see my question in the forum) ..hang on to your ATI, try it with a Linux Live CD, e.g. Ubuntu.com, and then do sudo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Mainglobals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:57:20 +0100, Durk wrote in message 200902011657.20734.d.tal...@xs4all.nl: Hi Daan, On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:56:14 Daan wrote: (After getting rid of my ATI card in favor of an nVidia one, see my question in the forum) ..hang on to your ATI, try it with

[Flightgear-devel] ..name caller idea from brlcad, was: CVS: source/src/Main globals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:41:40 +0100, Melchior wrote in message 200902011641.41...@rk-nord.at: * Curtis Olson -- Friday 30 January 2009: The traditional unix scheme, and most linux packaging schemes, assume only one version of the software at one time. [...] ..name caller idea from

[Flightgear-devel] ..old ATI All in Wonder 9800 AGP, was: CVS: source/src/Mainglobals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:12:17 +0100, Daan wrote in message 49860222.1701d00a.4e31.b...@mx.google.com: Could this cause the issue I am seeing under Windows? ..pass, all hearsay I've seen, suggests Microsoft hurt ATI's business for some high up corporate policy reason, by throwing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mentioned in The Register - MSFS

2009-02-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:50:31 +0100, R. wrote in message 498875d7.3000...@stoneynet.nl: With the cancellation of the Flight Simulator franchise, however, developers may actually switch over to FlightGear for developing payware aircraft. This is where MSFS got big, the default stuff in MSFS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902050307n513838b7x6f06bca893b2b...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/5 Jon Stockill li...@stockill.net Tim Moore wrote: I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large community that I doubt you need to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I guess wait and see is realistically the best hope we can have for the foreseeable future.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com: so we really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM connectivity redux

2009-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:46:31 +1300, James wrote in message 498ccbd7.1030...@gogo.co.nz: Tim Krajcar wrote: Your suggestion was to code a MP server that interfaces with VATSIM; mine is to code a MP client that connects to FG running as a MP server. Both are certainly workable ideas and I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:39:13 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902070239p450979e0n2ef48491d3552...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Arnt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:29:31 +0100, Melchior wrote in message 200902071429.32...@rk-nord.at: * Arnt Karlsen -- Saturday 07 February 2009: Then why are you here, asking us for freebee help? ^^ I'm sure he didn't specifically ask you anything. Posting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:37:35 +0100, Frederic wrote in message 498dd4ef.2080...@free.fr: I don't know where this discussion will lead us but anyway, I made a new Windows build with the last OSG 2.8 branch with a working LWO plugin :

[Flightgear-devel] ..licensing and public record, was: The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:57:55 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902070857i71aca8cen90b9f19b99d4c...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/7 Melchior FRANZ mfr...@aon.at Not that this has much to do with this thread, or Ian's FlightGear problems. Oh I would not worry about it, this thread has been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:59:13 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message gml3o1$r6...@osprey.mgras.de: Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:37:35 +0100, Frederic wrote in message 498dd4ef.2080...@free.fr: I don't know where this discussion will lead us but anyway, I made

[Flightgear-devel] ..debian build script pointers, was: ..name caller idea from brlcad

2009-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi Roy, ..are you (one of) the Debian maintainer(s) of SG|FG etc .debs? I'm going to try (learn) build these and brlcad right out of git, brlcad-7.14.0 fails to build from source for me and I'd like to make FG style deb build scripts work for brlcad and then try put brlcad's program naming

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git MS Windows

2009-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:15:51 +0100, Melchior wrote in message 200902081615.51...@rk-nord.at: MS Windows users who are interested in Git might want to check this out: http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ Nice screenshots there as well. :-) ..aye, how much in the tutorials is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:33:58 +, Alasdair wrote in message 1234373638.2955.14.ca...@dominatrix.riverview: On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:09 +0800, Harry Campigli wrote: Hmm It turns out changing the Debian git version made no difference, worked of GS but not TG. But I found a git rpm to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:43:51 +0100, Csaba wrote in message a362bf040902111243g5ba44dc2q59c558219796b...@mail.gmail.com: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: on this frequency, I would be grateful if someone with a few minutes to spare could check out my script

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:36:30 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message 628624.58015...@web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com: gerard robin wrote: On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: Respectfully I must disagree with you here. This is a system feature and should not be adjusted in random

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building Canadian Scenery

2009-03-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:26:25 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237055185.10739.20.ca...@dell02: On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:10 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: - Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net a écrit : Martin Spott wrote: Actually, in order to translate elevation raster into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building Canadian Scenery

2009-03-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:34:52 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237131292.10699.7.ca...@dell02: On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 01:09 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:26:25 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237055185.10739.20.ca...@dell02: On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:10 +0100, Frederic

[Flightgear-devel] ..1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD SG compile fails: undefined reference to `clock_gettime'

2009-03-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..I get this compile error with Geoff's 1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src/FDM/JSBSim -I/opt/bygg/fg/install/simgear/include -I/opt/bygg/fg/install/plib/include -I/opt/bygg/fg/install/OpenSceneGraph/include

[Flightgear-devel] .../maketg NOPAUSE DOUPD FG compile error: simgear/scene/bvh/BVHNode.hxx: No such file or directory

2009-03-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..I get this compile error with Geoff's 1.0.2 ./maketg NOPAUSE DOUPD: compile error: simgear/scene/bvh/BVHNode.hxx: No such file or directory Making all in Aircraft make[2]: Entering directory `/opt/bygg/tg/fgfs/source/src/Aircraft' g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src/Include -I../..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] .../maketg NOPAUSE DOUPD FG compile error: simgear/scene/bvh/BVHNode.hxx: No such file or directory

2009-03-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:26:55 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237220815.6654.5.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Without reviewing the maketg logs of the form templogNN.txt, ..doh! You still want my 1.0.2 logs? written to, in your case, the '/opt/bygg/fg/tmp/' (I think), ..correct, and I have

[Flightgear-devel] .../maketg NOPAUSE DOUPD finds missing separator in gpc Makefile

2009-03-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi Geoff, ..I found a new bug with your maketg-1.0.3: 2009-03-16 22:02:57 (101 KB/s) - `gpc232.zip' saved [15606] Archive: gpc232.zip inflating: gpc232/gpc.c inflating: gpc232/gpc.h inflating: gpc232/VERSIONS.TXT making and installing gpc library... 47c47 #define GPC_EPSILON

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD SG compile fails: undefined reference to `clock_gettime'

2009-03-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:11:38 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090316021138.3368a...@a45.fmb.no: Hi, ..I get this compile error with Geoff's 1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD: ..1.0.3 fails in exactly the same way, /opt/bygg/fg/tmp/templog1.txt is attached: a...@a45:/opt/bygg/fg $ ll \

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:30:55 -0500, Curtis wrote in message ef5fc9920903161830o1416048dva02c4d7090ec8...@mail.gmail.com: Here's a hypothetical question. Let's say some company A builds an internal product prototype that incorporates FlightGear as part of a larger aggregate system. Let's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:08:02 +1100, George wrote in message 5b12e0960903161908h699b16a5n40dca9d26ef94...@mail.gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a hypothetical question. Let's say some company A builds an internal product prototype

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:09:55 +0100 (CET), Frederic wrote in message 26870652.2296231237277395051.javamail.r...@spooler4-g27.priv.proxad.net: - Ron Jensen a écrit : If I can wear my Devil's advocate hat : What if the receiver of the modified software doesn't require the sources ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:23:09 -0500, Jon wrote in message 00a201c9a6ea$60534dc0$20f9e9...@net: There are some things we need to know that aren't described below. Was the FlightGear source modified? If not, then they would be distributing an existing FlightGear that anyone can download. All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:34:19 -0500, Curtis wrote in message ef5fc9920903170534s75b2f92bo4352f46a742e0...@mail.gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: There are some things we need to know that aren’t described below. Was the FlightGear source modified? If not,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:07:51 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237295271.6674.2.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Without reviewing the maketg logs of the form templogNN.txt, ..doh! You still want my 1.0.2 logs? No, but it will always help on some items, to be able to 'see' the current log(s) if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:17:05 +1300, James wrote in message 49c04b91.1090...@gogo.co.nz: Curtis Olson wrote: Here's a question: Does a 3rd party have the right to ask for the modified source code, even if none of the entities receiving the modified program don't care to ask for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:15:22 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090318141522.5c417...@a45.fmb.no: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:07:51 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237295271.6674.2.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Without reviewing the maketg logs of the form templogNN.txt, ..doh! You still want my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:10:27 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237399827.6663.78.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Have just copied up version 1.0.5, which tries to get around the 'shell' question... Get these, and _DELETE_ all others... http://geoffair.net/tmp/maketg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:03:55 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237403035.6663.80.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, ..I still need your TG-cs patch? yes, Yes, ABSOLUTELY YES!!! ... per mine of Monday, subject Re: [Flightgear-devel] .../maketg NOPAUSE DOUPD FG compile error:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:45:06 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090318194506.4214f...@a45.fmb.no: On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:10:27 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237399827.6663.78.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Have just copied up version 1.0.5, which tries to get around the 'shell' question...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:31:57 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090318223157.15903...@a45.fmb.no: On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:45:06 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090318194506.4214f...@a45.fmb.no: On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:10:27 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237399827.6663.78.ca...@dell02:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:56:52 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090319005652.11c52...@a45.fmb.no: ..got it. ;o) ..into the wrong place, /opt/bygg/tg/install/terragear-cs/ and not /opt/bygg/tg/install/terragear-cs/bin/ etc. ;o) r...@a45:/opt/bygg/tg $ diff -U0 maketg-1.0.5 maketg-1.0.5a ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD SG compile fails: undefined reference to `clock_gettime'

2009-03-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:04:50 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090317000450.1f790...@a45.fmb.no: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:11:38 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090316021138.3368a...@a45.fmb.no: Hi, ..I get this compile error with Geoff's 1.0.2 ./makefg NOPAUSE DOUPD: ..1.0.3 fails in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message alpine.lfd.1.10.0903170627320.4...@grumble.deltasoft.com: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Tim Moore wrote: You don't have to provide sources with the binaries to comply with the GPL, you just have to make them available if the a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] maketg and makefg scripts

2009-03-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:36:46 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237480606.6461.3.ca...@dell02: Hi Arnt, Please reduce the unnecessary 'size' of your emails. Sometimes it takes many clicks to get to anything you MAY have added. Instead of adding _ALL_ that has been said, pick out a little

[Flightgear-devel] ..the overlength reply with ./makefg DOUPD ADDDEBUG NOPAUSE log

2009-03-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:34:00 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090319213400.659ce...@a45.fmb.no: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:36:46 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1237480606.6461.3.ca...@dell02: ..I'll try, this time too, I'm afraid I must file a motion to file an overlength reply. ;o) ..no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..the overlength reply with ./makefg DOUPD ADDDEBUG NOPAUSE log

2009-03-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:24:42 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20090320042442.01b2d...@a45.fmb.no: ..now trying a ./maketg DOUPD ADDDEBUG NOPAUSE run to see if I get the same SG .configure failure as with ./makefg. a...@a45:/opt/bygg/tg $ ll /opt/bygg/tg/tmp/templog7.txt md5sum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:14:49 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231314.49784.ghma...@gmail.com: My purpose was to point that error: When we start FG with a JSBSim aircraft on a moving carrier the groundcache is right, the Aircraft behaviour is right as long as we don't leave the deck.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi gerard, ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:54:02 +0100, you wrote in message 200903231554.03018.ghma...@gmail.com: On lundi 23 mars 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:14:49 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231314.49784.ghma...@gmail.com: My purpose was to point that error

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..sorry guys, I hit the wrong button: ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:54:02 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231554.03018.ghma...@gmail.com: On lundi 23 mars 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:14:49 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231314.49784.ghma...@gmail.com

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DHC-6 Autopilot dialog

2009-05-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 01 May 2009 13:42:34 -0300, Victhor wrote in message 1241196154.4253.3.ca...@victhor-laptop: Hi. I'm trying to use the A/P in the Twin Otter. There's no autopilot instrument in the panel, but there's reference to one in the configuration files. There's a GPS as well, but no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DHC-6 Autopilot dialog

2009-05-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 01 May 2009 15:48:35 -0300, Victhor wrote in message 1241203715.4253.6.ca...@victhor-laptop: On Fri, 01 May 2009 13:42:34 -0300, Victhor wrote in message 1241196154.4253.3.ca...@victhor-laptop: Hi. I'm trying to use the A/P in the Twin Otter. There's no autopilot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] a notification on osgOcean

2009-05-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 9 May 2009 15:41:07 +0400, Sergey wrote in message 17cf84df0905090441u3ee10040g46f354ea9b3cc...@mail.gmail.com: Hi All, at osg community a new (LGPL see license in svn ) nodekit which might be very usefull for FlightGear http://code.google.com/p/osgocean/ look at videos.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Start up Problems

2009-05-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 24 May 2009 09:18:59 -0400, Barry wrote in message 4a194943.6060...@isscp.com: Thank Victhor 1) Answer: Yes But why then with prior versions: 0.9.0 and 1.0.0 fgfs ran perfectly fine on the current hardware, in fact back then I only had 1 GM Ram now I have 2 GB Ram ..1, if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Start up Problems

2009-05-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:16:33 -0400, Barry wrote in message 4a1883d1.50...@isscp.com: I'm running on Debian Linux BARRY ..??? Not Lenny, Barry? Or is BARRY your own custom Debian distro? 2.6.26-1-vserver-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 21:48:46 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux -- ..med vennlig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Start up Problems

2009-05-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:52:10 -0400, Barry wrote in message 4a19ebba.7040...@isscp.com: To All, Thanks Very Much Victhor: glxgears gives me between 882 - 1068 FPS 5450 frame in 5.0 seconds Arnt: I'm running the LENNY version of Debian Yes, Should I change this ??? ..nope,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sky dive free fall

2009-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:42:55 +0200, Josef wrote in message 4a218c3f.3010...@googlemail.com: leee schrieb: On Saturday 30 May 2009, Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Vivian Meazza wrote: I don’t see much of a problem with a suitable jumper. Making it a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ADF / DME receivers, and ILS stations.

2009-06-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:23:14 -0600, Ron wrote in message 1245518595.17997.167.ca...@ip120.jentronics.com: On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:42 +, Martin Spott wrote: James Turner wrote: Addendum - looking at nav,dat, it contains DME entries for each ILS, so that part at least is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] best way to remotely control flight gear?

2009-07-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:39:34 +1000, Eli wrote in message col106-w39e00b96af49cafedf7a04ec...@phx.gbl: Hi I am new to flight gear, but am using it in a multiple flight vehicle simulation system for my thesis, this system will be used to research aerial search patterns. To do this I need to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] drivers

2009-07-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:19:34 -0700, James wrote in message 1247764774.10855.21.ca...@fedora-11a: I have purchased a new Dell laptop which has an ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3670 vido card installed. I've placed FEDORA 11 (32 bit) on it and downloaded Flightgear which fails to run. (I also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33

2009-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:27:57 +0100, Alan wrote in message 5fe353c04d92459a9dbf8d42d1b97...@ajtmain: Thanks for the quick reply, and best wishes with the solution. Why oh why are MS compliers so pernickety? ..business strategy: http://grokdoc.net/index.php/Dirty_Tricks_history#C.2B.2B

[Flightgear-devel] OT: ..not MS business strategy ; o), was: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33

2009-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:22:49 -0400, Nicolas wrote in message 808354800907190922n4853debbv75b7ebaaa3100...@mail.gmail.com: The issue has to do with standards compliance and C++ idioms, not MS business strategy ..Microsoft has _all_ the resources it might ever need to get their own compilers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33

2009-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:43:41 -0400, Nicolas wrote in message 808354800907190943ic2f7c59g389bedc9eb3f1...@mail.gmail.com: Sorry about calling you clueless, btw, I mistakenly thought your post was from the same person who linked to the propaganda bullshit site ..you refer to http://grokdoc.net/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Detailed Simulation of Wing Forces

2009-07-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:17 -0500, Curtis wrote in message ef5fc9920907221245u47c4d0eav64092a09ea25b...@mail.gmail.com: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Christopher G. Prince ch...@cprince.comwrote: Hi, We're working on a project to feed back information about airflow on a wing to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heliflyer :-(

2009-08-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:39:04 +0200, gerard wrote in message 200908011639.04276.ghma...@gmail.com: On samedi 01 août 2009, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hello community, Today I got sad news: Georg Vollnhals, also known as Heliflyer, passed away last month. Heliflyer was very involved with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Protocol issue

2009-08-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:34:43 +0200, Marco wrote in message blu121-w15985969262b67b817d43b88...@phx.gbl: Hii,I need to send from a C# application ..why not port it to C++? http://groklaw.net/ has a lot of background info on this litigation threat to e.g. FG. the position of several

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quaternian /transformation math question

2009-08-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:04:20 -0500, Curtis wrote in message ef5fc9920908030904o75b75204j9abe3c3350eb3...@mail.gmail.com: I asked earlier about using the FlightGear view system to keep a camera fixed on a specific point in the world. A real world usage example perhaps could be a gyro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Automated builds tests

2009-08-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:00:39 -0700, Tom wrote in message c9e106b9090804l27fef105g5b047571a6c75...@mail.gmail.com: Hi everybody I'd like to hear thoughts from the FG community about setting up a system to perform builds execute a suite of tests on FlightGear, all automatically. Right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2009-08-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:46:57 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message h5gpm1$vj...@osprey.mgras.de: Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like Scotland and Germany have something in common ;-) except from the fact that there are even fewer trees in Scotland because of their crazy ancestors'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2009-08-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:44:39 +0100, leee wrote in message 200908071244.39180.l...@spatial.plus.com: On Friday 07 Aug 2009, Torsten Dreyer wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:46:57 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message h5gpm1$vj...@osprey.mgras.de: Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Running FGFS 1st time - runs slowly - what are the system requirements

2009-08-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:47:51 -0300, Victhor wrote in message 1098b3ef0908281047o6c177b1w2d7cd1246ac25...@mail.gmail.com: I can't believe I finally got FG compiled and running! Thanks to all of you who helped me. It is running slowly though. I'm running on an AMD 1.8GHz machine with 512MB

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:59:46 +0200, Erik wrote in message 4ab32fe2.4040...@ehofman.com: I would have responded in this thread but decided not to since it probably would only add fuel to it. Let stick to that it's tasteless and realize that FlightGear has no support for weapons of mass

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another FlightGear Package for Sale: Illegal?

2009-09-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:33:37 +0200, Durk wrote in message 200909260733.37841.d.tal...@xs4all.nl: On Friday 25 September 2009 08:20:40 pm Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: How about naming and shaming all of these profiteers on the main website, warning newcomers that they can get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Towards release 1.9.2

2009-10-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:13:51 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message 305052.62106...@web26005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com: DurkTalsma wrote: FWIW, I would like to build a minimum base package this time, which only consists of one aircraft, no AI, and a minimal set of shared models. AI and other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pauses in flightgear

2009-10-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:40:55 +0100, Forums wrote in message 001a01ca4ba6$38a4a8d0$0d01a...@serve2: I am having some strange pause problems in flightgear fgrun+fgfs-osg-win32-cvs-20090817 with corresponding data. My CPU is not flat out at 100% while this is happening it seems to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pauses in flightgear

2009-10-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
the network or from the internet, based on the fact the cpu was not working over time during the pauses it is logical that fg is simply waiting for some late network traffic! ..speculation. I don't know either. Aerotro - Original Message - From: Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net

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