Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
tong hui wrote: I have compiled it successfully ! That's great. If I were you, I'd ping Stuart Buchanan to set our source repo up in a way so you can maintain the Chinese translation alongside with the English source (and other translations). At the beginning it'll probably going to require a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Pedro Morgan wrote: Umm.. here ? http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/getstart/index.html As written on the Wiki main page, The Manual is hosted here: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/getstart.pdf http://mapserver.flightgear.org/getstart/ (This place wasn't my preferred choice, but it was the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Pedro Morgan wrote: Not a bash user, so this stuff is ,kinda new but a new builld script here (more options) and work in progress https://gitorious.org/~ffs/fg/ffs-getstart/blobs/b132c71c290bae8d48b9c3eaa99edb2e6e1d999b/bin/make_getstart.sh Thanks, I'll check. As a side note: I've started

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
tong hui wrote: Why not re-write this manual in markdown? Substitute markdown by everbody's personal favourites and you're getting an idea of past discussions ;-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García Liñán wrote: So as said in the FlightGear's wiki article about the subject, [...] Do you have an URL available ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García Liñán wrote: Sure: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Stand_Alone_ATC_Control_Development Thanks - I took the freedom to remove the stupid comment ;-) Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García wrote: But I guess it is not that useless. Well, but the wording You are advised not to start working on anything directly related to this is highly inappropriate. Apparently someone has completely failed to understand the topic. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

[Flightgear-devel] FG Steering Committee :-) Was: Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:33:36PM +, Martin Spott wrote: Well, but the wording You are advised not to start working on anything directly related to this is highly inappropriate. Apparently someone has completely failed to understand the topic. It came to my attention he's a Wiki

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Spott
tonghuix wrote: $ bin/makegetstart.sh en pdf Building English manual. rm: cannot remove directory: `.' bin/makegetstart.sh: 37: bin/makegetstart.sh: lndir: not found lndir is a traditional utility to build X. Stock Debian has an xutils-dev package which contains lndir. identify: unable to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Spott
Pedro Morgan wrote: Is martin the maintainer of this? I want to make this build automatic It's already running automatically, the PDF versions as well as the English HTML are being updated whenever a GIT commit gets mirrored to the FlightGear MapServer machine - which, as far as I remember, is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile getstart latex source file?

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: tonghuix wrote: identify: unable to open image `*.eps': @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2587. bin/makegetstart.sh: 55: [: -lt: unexpected operator The error in the second line is most likely caused by some malfunction which is expressed in the first one. which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times after several hours during the fgdata clone. Which server do you clone from ? If you don't already do so, then you should consider fetching the initial clone from mapserver and to change the remote origin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Bertrand Coconnier wrote: git repack git gc git prune Same here, I'm running a similar set as hooks on the mapserver GIT mirror, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: Since really only the initial clone is a problem, we could just offer a weekly updated tar ball of a bare clone for download. This download would just be ~ 5 GiB and would be resumable. [...] Any thoughts? Good idea. We actually had this for a while, but I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Brisa script has this line git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata This is also the default to which all new users are most likely to come across.. fun Q) We need to use smaller bolts for the railway bridge ! Every time I try to mount a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Sorting out the aircraft is then a completely separate problem, and several solutions to this have already been proposed. As we all remember one was actually implemented last year, but for various reasons not made fully public , was promptly abandoned. You might try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-22 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: New flightgear git users are faced with an initial download of about 10gb just to get started. Currently the fgdata GIT repo has approx. 4.9 GByte, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hi James, nice feature - I like storing this sort of stuff in structured databases :-) There's one item looking a little bit strange to me: Apparently the positioned table has a numeric identifier airport to refer runways and taxiways to their respective airport. This seems to be a simple

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:47, Martin Spott wrote: There's one item looking a little bit strange to me: Apparently the positioned table has a numeric identifier airport to refer runways and taxiways to their respective airport. This seems to be a simple sequence

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error while compiling 2.6.0 on FreeBSD,

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Nikolay Tychina wrote: I'm trying to build a port of FlightGear 2.6.0 on FreeBSD, [...] Which version of FreeBSD ? Do you have BATCH enabled in make.conf ? Are you sure your port dependencies are up to date ? Do you have any other custom rules defined in make.conf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch,

2012-09-07 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: On 6 Sep 2012, at 09:54, Martin Spott wrote: _But_ the same model is already available in the Scenery path: jive: 10:40:08 ~ ls -l /export/share/FGScenery/Test/Models/Misc/entrepotblanc-ba.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 martin user 946 6. Okt 2011 /export/share/FGScenery/Test

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch,

2012-09-06 Thread Martin Spott
ThorstenB wrote: I checked commit comments, but couldn't find anything related. Checked a bit closer now: my best _guess_ is, it's related to the following simgear change: commit f1201eaebc3fbb8964e06b7ef158fd34a12901aa Author: Mathias Froehlich Date: Sat Aug 25 08:43:12 2012 +0200

Re: [Flightgear-devel] license

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Scott wrote: So my question then is, what path is there to incorporate CC content in scenery that must be GPL??? Under the this is no legal advice-clause I'd say it should allow derived works to be published under the GPL. BTW, I'm uncertain if we're having the same SRTM-1 in mind. The last

Re: [Flightgear-devel] license

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Scott wrote: But more seriously, I'm no license guru, and you picked one of the main points I'm not clear on, the original CC in this example is Share-alike and Derived works allowed with attribution. It really depends on the particular phrasing in license text. One of the - various - reasons

Re: [Flightgear-devel] license

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Renk Thorsten wrote: FlightProSim does not defraud its customers as far as I am aware. According to reports on this very list (hint) and elsewhere they don't comply with the money-back guarantee they advertize. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] license

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Spott
Ron Jensen wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2012 05:04:06 Martin Spott wrote: It really depends on the particular phrasing in license text. One of the - various - reasons for not providing 'official' FlightGear Scenery with OSM roads is the clause in CC-BY-SA 2.0, which says: If you alter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error while compiling 2.6.0 on FreeBSD,

2012-09-04 Thread Martin Spott
Nikolay Tychina wrote: I'm trying to build a port of FlightGear 2.6.0 on FreeBSD, and it fails with the same error every time. What can possibly cause it? Has the problem already been solved ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error while compiling 2.6.0 on FreeBSD,

2012-09-04 Thread Martin Spott
Nikolay Tychina wrote: FreeBSD was relatively recent 9-STABLE, yesterday I upgraded it to 9.1-PRERELEASE #0 r240025. Which port of FLTK is installed, 1.3 or 2 ? I've recently built the flightgear port successfully on 9.something, therefore I'd rather expect some remains of an old FLTK or Ruby

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error while compiling 2.6.0 on FreeBSD,

2012-09-02 Thread Martin Spott
Nikolay Tychina wrote: I'm trying to build a port of FlightGear 2.6.0 on FreeBSD, [...] Which version of FreeBSD ? Do you have BATCH enabled in make.conf ? Are you sure your port dependencies are up to date ? Do you have any other custom rules defined in make.conf ? Cheers, Martin. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some More Detailed Scenery

2012-08-31 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Yves, HB-GRAL wrote: May I ask you to move this discussion to the scenery list now ? I'm not among those who enjoy having multiple different places for discussing the same topic (clarification upon request), therefore I'd prefer to stick with the -devel list. Cheers, Martin. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FW: Compute ground elevation dynamically for

2012-08-30 Thread Martin Spott
Renk Thorsten wrote: So, people would like to populate close to the 'real' layout, but still do something useful for the scenery database I guess, [...] You're probably wrong about the second half of your assumption, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some More Detailed Scenery

2012-08-30 Thread Martin Spott
Tom P wrote: Instead of creating a new server for high-end / more detailed sceneries, would it be possible to create a branch on the current TerraSync server? I think that's possible, maybe even just two different directories with a 'base' Terrain (let's say pure VMap0) and another with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SimGear libraries

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Mathias has suggested, and I agree, it would be sensible to also package the *static* libraries this way. So instead of having many static libraries, we will have only two: libSimGearCore.a and libSimGearScene.a Sounds good, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly

[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear GIT repository name change

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Spott
To whom it may concern, the former terragear-cs repositories on Gitorious as well as on the FlightGear MapServer have been renamed to just terragear without the -cs. Please update your .git/config files accordingly. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata merge request 91:Animated Jetways

2012-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Ryan, A Person wrote: I can assure you that I do care. Over the past several months, life has been really occupying me and I have not had much time to check email or keep up with the FlightGear mailing list. Sorry for missing your messages; the only reason I was able to catch this one was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FW: Compute ground elevation dynamically for

2012-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Torsten Dreyer wrote: I can think of one scenario where the information offset from ground aka AGL is necessary. This is when the scenery gets recreated and the ground elevation changes. In that case, objects may float above or sink into the ground with a fixed altitude. IMHO, our scenery

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata merge request 91:Animated Jetways

2012-08-23 Thread Martin Spott
Hi, if anybody meets Ryan Miller, please let him know that there appear to be issues with the current state of the Jetways. I've tried to get in contact with him several times over the past months, but never got a response - I have no idea wether his EMail address changed or if he just doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.8. osx download broken

2012-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: to use a mirror, but then I got some 15k drops from the german mirror Anybody else facing trouble accessing the German FTP mirror ? Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New land cover Shapefile download feature

2012-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
Clement de l'Hamaide wrote: Now only coastline.shp are provided in the .zip file and we are forced to download every layer (osm_river, osm_rail, osm_trunk, osm_primary...) individually and manually. Of course I did a few tests before announcing the change, therefore I'm slightly surprised

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D models import webform in production.

2012-08-19 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: You cover a wide range of needs if you allow any number of files in this set of formats The difficulty is not in processing a wider range of 3D model formats, instead the most trouble is hidden in the consistency checking. Traditionally, submitters are making more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New land cover Shapefile download feature

2012-08-16 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I've added a new - long overdue - download feature to the known Shapefile download page at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/shpdl/ On the left you'll still find the old per-layer download, on the right there's a new, still in testing every polygon from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: On 12 Aug 2012, at 20:44, Martin Spott wrote: But it's not an either/or. There could be an FGCom binary that uses the same code as the built-in FGCom. Which environment would be set up to build this separate binary ? The fgfs one, but I don't think that's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Usability was the main reason for making terrasync be available as in-process option, and I'm strongly considering doing the same thing for fgcom, although that has a few extra complications. Whereas there's little use of TerraSync without the FG flight sim, there are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: On Sunday 12 August 2012 16:07:18 Martin Spott wrote: Whereas there's little use of TerraSync without the FG flight sim, there are plausible usage scenarios for FGCom _without_ FlightGear, let's say for ATC. Therefore, while it makes sense to package FGCom alongside

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability

2012-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: 3) Scenery. Terrasync is now built into FG, and we have nice UI to configure it in-sim. However, it still requires users to set up a separate directory and configure FG_SCENERY before it can be used. It would be great if the standard installers created an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D models import webform in production.

2012-08-09 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: My model is made of 3 xml, 3 .ac and 2 textures . How can I submit it ? Sounds like it should be submitted as three distinct models. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Spott
ys wrote: Am 05.08.2012 um 19:07 schrieb Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net: Hi YVes, ys wrote: A lot of scenery will come with 850 airport data either, and this is still refused by the core developers [...] Personally I don't like this sort of claims. After reading

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Spott
Sorry for the no-op posting, I acidentally sent the unmodified buffer Moin Yves, ys wrote: [...], it's just in responsability of the core developers to show how 2nd-row developers can help to improve apt.dat without being blocked by a deprecated. I tend to disagree. You're probably

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Spott
Tim Moore wrote: On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Therefore I think trying to guide 2nd-row developers is a waste of time in most cases. How does scenery production, including airport modeling, scale without 2nd (and 3rd and 4th)-row developers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-05 Thread Martin Spott
Hi YVes, ys wrote: A lot of scenery will come with 850 airport data either, and this is still refused by the core developers [...] Personally I don't like this sort of claims. After reading the above statement, the 'innocent' observer might understand that swapping the current apt.dat file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] TerraGear / Custom Scenery branch, gdalchop,

2012-08-01 Thread Martin Spott
Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: The branch, gdalchop has been created at 40695c40585943b13e3c1005648e1da4dc490542 (commit) - Log - commit 40695c40585943b13e3c1005648e1da4dc490542 Author: Ralf Gerlich Date: Tue Dec 29

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Planned downtime of ftp.de

2012-08-01 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: ftp.de is currently offline due to hardware failure, it's been a Sun Ultra10 which has been running for more than a decade now. After the mirror had already been running in degraded mode (without Scenery) for a while, it should now be fully functional again, Martin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Planned downtime of ftp.de

2012-08-01 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: Sounds good, thanks for the update! What did they end up upgrading to? Now it's a pretty boring PeeCee having two internal disks. I've been maintaining this university FTP service since the mid-nineties, so it's my 'baby'. Nowadays it hardly serves anything else besides

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-25 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: New GUI with separated menus/dialogs, viewer in a separate window: http://maptest.fgx.ch/screens/one-screen.png Someone please buy me a display *that* wide so I can still afford using space lateral to the viewer for the menu ;-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-25 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Or to put it another way - the actual hard part is running the widgets in the main OpenGL window - which *is* a requirement for full-screen apps and multi-monitor setups. (Some people have claimed otherwise, but I believe we need the option of 'in-window' UI for many

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-25 Thread Martin Spott
ys wrote: Am 25.07.2012 um 12:17 schrieb Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net: HB-GRAL wrote: New GUI with separated menus/dialogs, viewer in a separate window: http://maptest.fgx.ch/screens/one-screen.png Someone please buy me a display *that* wide so I can still afford using space

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-25 Thread Martin Spott
Tim Moore wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: James Turner wrote: Or to put it another way - the actual hard part is running the widgets in the main OpenGL window - which *is* a requirement for full-screen apps and multi-monitor setups. (Some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DDS usage in effects files

2012-07-14 Thread Martin Spott
Emilian Huminiuc wrote: Hopefuly, warning messages (if left enabled) should appear only when specificaly using Materials/dds/materials.xml Many thanks for working toward a proper solution, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear Base Package branch, master,

2012-07-14 Thread Martin Spott
Hi guys, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: commit fe27d8aae3e08fcb46e9df59a5ee67e2e429d8df Author: Gijs de Rooy Date: Sat Jul 14 14:19:26 2012 +0200 Add Rembrandt light to Alcatraz lighthouse. Please make sure this sort of updates gets committed to Scenemodels in the long term, otherwise

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Planned downtime of ftp.de

2012-07-11 Thread Martin Spott
ftp.de is currently offline due to hardware failure, it's been a Sun Ultra10 which has been running for more than a decade now. I'll take care of arranging a replacement. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Spott
ThorstenB wrote: Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Unfortunately Holger is unable to contribute to FGCom any more, but with a bit of luck he'll probably give access to his latest state of develoment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Massive shared objects import webtool now active.

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Spott
Olivier wrote: I'm happy to announce the production status of the massive shared objects positions import script. Very nice ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch, next,

2012-06-28 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Curt, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: diff --git a/package/make-base-package.noarch.sh b/package/make-base-package.noarch.sh index bec5472..63e467c 100755 --- a/package/make-base-package.noarch.sh +++ b/package/make-base-package.noarch.sh @@ -76,6 +76,8 @@ tar \

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow frame rates

2012-06-17 Thread Martin Spott
castle...@comcast.net wrote: Multi-core machines have been around for some time now. Perhaps it is time to think beyond running Flighgear as a monolithic process in a single CPU configuration. As a start you may want to visit:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multi-language support in The Manual

2012-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: Spurred on by Olivier offering to translate The Manual into French, I've added support to The Manual source code and build system that will allow future translations to be made in any language supported by the Latex Babel package. I just built the English PDF using the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 2600 XT - Ubuntu

2012-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I found a way to avoid the black window. So I can tell that Rembrandt works perfectly on a HD7750 windowed or fullscreen at 1600x1200. With vegetation set to 2.0 and random buildings at 1.0, I get 20 fps on the c172p. My feeling tells me that these values should be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-api

2012-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Peter Morgan wrote: To add furtheer.. http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=sceneryweb;a=blob;f=mapserver/Threshold_ILS_TWR.sh Were all reinventing a wheel.. [...] +YAML++ Yamls is a nice format cos it machine readable.. I don't understand what you're trying to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-api

2012-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Yves, HB-GRAL wrote: In this post you write: Note, this directory structure is not meant to be used primarily as a datasource during runtime. Why not? Because when you look at the runtime performance, parsing XML probably isn't the natural, first choice :-) Example:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear Scenery/Web tools branch, master,

2012-06-07 Thread Martin Spott
Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: The branch, master has been updated - Log - commit 01cd74bef43ff957270c4d56743b284f23a32732 Author: Blackiris Date: Wed Jun 6 10:29:37 2012 +0200 Add footer and other HTML stuff Could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear

2012-06-07 Thread Martin Spott
Julien Nguyen wrote: Oh, it's me... Have I done something wrong ? (I don't know with this nickname was used by the way) I think the key is to understand the particular difference between the GIT repository and the Gitorious web site. Apparently Gitorious somehow manages to translate the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)

2012-06-07 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: I'm not sure that is correct, but my memory is dim. My recollection was that even after we converted the main cvs branch to OSG, we kept a plib branch that was used for a subsequent release. There's a key difference: The OSG port, at least when it was added to CVS, was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)

2012-06-07 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: So you would prefer not to mention it in the change log and release note? In order to save everybody from pointless discussion, I won't disclose my preference. Anyhow I'd vote for seriously taking into account, that, for a large fraction of FlightGear's user base,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mapserver offline

2012-06-04 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Yes, Power and network are available again, but the machine doesn't boot and so far I'm unable to tell why. I'll announce when it's back. Back, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mapserver offline

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Spott
Michael Sgier wrote: Still down: Yes, Power and network are available again, but the machine doesn't boot and so far I'm unable to tell why. I'll announce when it's back. If it takes too long, I'll switch over to a slower but functional backup site, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mapserver offline

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Spott
Michael Sgier wrote: It it's running Linux, do from a live dvd a fsck. Cool idea, I've have never thought about that Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI Aircrafts and ground level

2012-05-30 Thread Martin Spott
Harald Johnsen wrote: Since I'm actually working a bit on AI aircraft animations, I propose to not use the offset tag in the AI traffic files (ie doing as if that offset was null) [...] Seconded, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mapserver offline

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Spott
Just as an informal notice, some of the machines in San Diego apparently didn't recover from another power outage: http://www.ucsd.edu/emergency/ The FlightGear MapServer, Scenemodels and the GIT mirror are affected. The PostgreSQL database backend behind the two web sites is functional again

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear Base Package branch, master,

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Spott
Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: The branch, master has been updated - Log - commit 7206a7aef7af552e216d09897eb3a70dac359525 Author: BARANGER Emmanuel Date: Thu May 24 02:50:36 2012 +0200 New plane : Heinkel He 111 Feels

Re: [Flightgear-devel] No sound under Ubuntu 12.04

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Spott
Salut Maxime, Maxime Guillaud wrote: AL lib: oss.c:169: Could not open /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Error: Audio device not available, trying default AL lib: oss.c:169: Could not open /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Error: Default Audio device not available. I didn't care about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random Buildings - memory consumption

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Spott
Emilian Huminiuc wrote: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-118.18562lat=33.91857zoom=11layers=0B00TFFFTFFFTFFF Just as a reminder the colour legend is here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LandcoverDB_CS_Detail Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Regional textures merge request

2012-05-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Yves, flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Good point from Martin Spott off-list ;-) but anyway, has there ever been a proposal how this regions could be defined ? Is there a wiki, a readme or something ? Well, in case of doubt, a simple, easily maintained text list would serve the task

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pitch and Roll interpretation in STG files

2012-05-18 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Clement, Clement de l'Hamaide wrote: Currently pitch and roll doesn't exist in STG file. A good proverb say do it yourself, thus I implemented the pitch and roll interpretation in STG files. Good idea - anyhow I'd like to point out that you can also define pitch and roll in the XML file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The (never ending) story about

2012-05-12 Thread Martin Spott
Björn Kesten wrote: They should scrap the new airport and just reopen Tempelhof. +1 Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

[Flightgear-devel] The (never ending) story about Berlin-Brandenburg airport

2012-05-11 Thread Martin Spott
I'm not sure wether that's funny or sad - at least it's extremely rare ;-) http://foxtrot.mgras.net/bitmap/FGFS/EDDB-NT.png Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch, next,

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Spott
Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: The branch, next has been updated - Log - commit b9260f543b8dae06c6a80b12c930e367805f34c4 Author: ThorstenB Date: Sat May 5 01:08:20 2012 +0200 Ganael Laplanche: fix include dependencies for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch,

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: On 5 May 2012, at 09:00, Martin Spott wrote: Ganael Laplanche: fix include dependencies for FreeBSD support Cool ! I'm checking the FreeBSD port almost every week, but until recently it's still been at 2.4, looks like this will change soon :-) Yep, if any CMake

Re: [Flightgear-devel] An empassioned plea

2012-05-04 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Perry wrote: It would probably make things a lot simpler for the average user if FGFS included a wizard that automatically identified which combinations of features would be usable on a specific installation. Using that result as constraining logic in the menus would allow unusable

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt on old cards

2012-05-01 Thread Martin Spott
Voila, your weekly screenshot(s): jive: 14:55:15 ~ find .fgfs* .fgfsrc jive: 14:55:27 ~ env | grep \^FG FG_HOME=/opt/FlightGear FG_ROOT=/home/martin/SCM/FlightGear/fgdata jive: 14:55:39 ~ cat ~/.fgfsrc --timeofday=noon --enable-rembrandt --prop:/sim/rendering/shadows/enabled=true

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt on old cards

2012-05-01 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Voila, your weekly screenshot(s): BTW, if you'd prefer me to stop posting these screenshots, please shout, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt on old cards

2012-05-01 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Voila, your weekly screenshot(s): http://foxtrot.mgras.net/bitmap/FGFS/fgfs-rembrandt_04.0.png http://foxtrot.mgras.net/bitmap/FGFS/fgfs-rembrandt_04.1.png Looks like there is some progress, isn't it ? Definitely ! Debian Linux/AMD64, Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random Buildings

2012-04-25 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: I don't believe the town model has been used for some time. It was supersede by the random object masking I introduced a while back. I think what John and Yves are talking about is the introduction of the various zone_maison models for each spot (therefore the term

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random Buildings

2012-04-25 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 08:26 +, Martin Spott wrote: Unfortunately Erik never bothered responding to this issue, therefore it's uncertain wether he'd silently agree or silently disagree to reverting the above commit. I don't mind if it gets reverted but I did respond

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-24 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Thorsten, ThorstenB wrote: On 23.04.2012 13:52, Christian Schmitt wrote: We could, if the xml parser would not simply discard any new runways that are not already in the apt.dat file. If I understood a comment of James in the bug tracker correctly, this, however, always has been and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-24 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Indeed, the XML structure was primarily meant to override incorrect values of pre-existing airfields. BTW, here's the initial announcement: http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg17407.html Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-24 Thread Martin Spott
flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Is the code/the queries to produce the xml output from the postgres apt/nav.dat database available for public somewhere? It's a simple Bash/PostgreSQL proof of concept which has seen 'evolutionary' development, looping through the list of ICAO codes, collecting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Rembrandt] the plan

2012-04-16 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: This shader error affects shadow rendering and for now, I don't have a replacement. The only thing I can propose for this kind of card, is to disable shadow rendering : --prop:/sim/rendering/shadows/enabled=false Here's your weekly screenshot from 1 hour old GIT:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader - Environment interfacing issues

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
Renk Thorsten wrote: Emilian wrote: It would be good to make it Weather system agnostic from the effect/shader side of things, don't you think? No. If you want to render atmospheric light effects, the shader needs to know the structure of the atmosphere and at what altitude the light

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-10 Thread Martin Spott
flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Maybe it???s time to establish a new contact to Robin Peel. I sent him data too but never got any answer, I sent my data to Martin Spott and the airports have never been updated, nore in apt.dat shipped with flightgear nore in scenery files derived via terrasync

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-10 Thread Martin Spott
flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: I know about this inconsistencies, and this of course the core of the problem. When flightgear reads from one updated scenery source and from one corresponding data source we wont run into the same problems anymore, I think that's true, but really hard to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-10 Thread Martin Spott
Gene Buckle wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Michael Sgier wrote: Traffic and parking etc. are handled via xml files in Flightgear different to X-Plane. But to make changes to the opensource apt.dat forward them to Robin: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=58356 Right, but if you

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