Re: [Flightgear-devel] Till Busch's terrain shaders
Hi, On 08/09/2009 01:03 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: Torsten Dreyer wrote: With this patch, I get a number of No render bin number specified in render bin section No render bin name specified in render bin section I already got them before the patch.. Erik yes, I got this error also before the patch. Matthias -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [DRAFT] generic input devices and hotplug support
Hi Torsten, Hi, I am currently playing with the input subsystem. This was triggered because I have two devices that currently do not work with FlightGear, neither Linux nor Windows. 1. A set of rudder pedals that does not get recognized as a joystick from joydev, because it reports it's axes as RX,RY and Z and the lack of an X-Axis stops joydev from using it as a joystick. 2. A 3dconnexion (http://www.3dconnexion.com/) SpaceNavigator 3D-Mouse which is basically a 6-axes/2buttons/1LED device. Both devices are HID devices and are handled by the Linux input/event driver. For example, the SpaceNavigator shows up in /proc/bus/input/devices as I: Bus=0003 Vendor=046d Product=c626 Version=0110 N: Name=3Dconnexion SpaceNavigator P: Phys=usb-:00:1d.1-1/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input9 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event9 B: EV=20017 B: KEY=3 0 0 0 0 B: REL=3f B: MSC=10 B: LED=100 My idea is to extend the FGInput class so it can use the devices presented thru the event interface. While at it, I'd also like to add hotplug support for devices, plugged in or out while FlightGear runs. What I have so far locally is a system that can use the input devices. Events and devices are configured with xml config files like this, similiar to joystick config files (just one event shown here for better readability): PropertyList name3Dconnexion SpaceNavigator/name event namerel-y-translate/name binding commandproperty-adjust/command propertysim/current-view/field-of-view/property factor type=double0.01/factor min type=double10.0/min max type=double80.0/max wrap type=boolfalse/wrap /binding /event /PropertyList See it in action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Me8d9UZLA The black knob can be twisted around and shifted along the x/y/z axes. These movements are translated into events which adjust the current-view direction and the field of view. The cool blue LED-light is controlled by FlightGear and indicates gear-down (YES! It's bidirectional communication). Adding/removing of devices is reported by HAL and DBUS on Linux and DirectInput on Win. I don't know how Macs deal with that, but I am certain there is a way for the macs, too. While I really like the new functionality and I see many advantages from moving into this direction, there are also some disadvantage and I'd like to open the discussion before I commit anything. Advantages: - Adding additional and generic support for a wide variety of devices - Named events, no more axis numbers and confusion between Linux/Win/Mac - Bidirectional communication (switch on/off LED's, probably force feedback etc.) - Might obsolete one plib dependency Disadvantages: - Introduces platform dependency, individual implementations needed for Linux/Win/Mac - Adds new library dependency (dbus/hal on linux DirectInput on Win, ??? on Mac) if I am not totally wrong than hal will be skipped in favor of devicekit in the near future by probably all Linux distributions. Fedora 11 is already using some parts of it. What do you think? Are the new features worth introducing new dependencies and platform dependent modules? Torsten P.S.: The GIMP also uses these techniques. Go to the settings dialog and select Input Devices. Matthias -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] New screenshots of Eurocopter EC 145
Hello, I have just uploaded some new screenshots of the EC 145: http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/xcgal/thumbnails.php?album=44 The instrument panels are almost finished. Only the textures are still missing. Regards Matthias -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Screenshots of the coming helicopter Eurocopter EC 145
Hello, I would like to announce some screenshots of the coming helicopter Eurocopter EC 145. The model is still not finished but I thought it would be nice to show some pictures/screenshots made in osgviewer. Here is the link: http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/xcgal/thumbnails.php?album=44 I have to say thank you to Gabor for using his webspace on his FlightGear tracker server. Regards Matthias - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader based random trees and i mproved random objects
Hallo Morten, On Wednesday 23 January 2008 20:13:01 Morten Oesterlund Joergensen wrote: I get a lot of FRAGMENT glCompileShader FAILED error messages and no trees. I made a search on Google and it seems that my graphics card does not support some extensions. It is a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460 using the 1.0.9631-r1 driver, as it is called in Portage in Gentoo Linux. There is a new version called 96.43.01 that supports my card, but I would like to hear what you say, before I upgrade. I don't think a driver update will help because your card has only limited support for vertex and pixel shaders as you already stated in your mail. On Wikipedia is a nice summary of the Nvidia GeForce4 MX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series#GeForce4_MX Greetings Matthias - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [ANN] fgcom VoIP-package version 1.0
Hi /AnMaster, On Thursday 13 September 2007 22:11:36 AnMaster wrote: None of the deps seems to exist on gentoo. I can't find these in portage at all: asterix, libiaxclient, axclient (or under any other name I can think of) libgsm1 portaudio is is only in version 18 not 19 it is called asterisk (I think Holger made a mistake when he wrote his email). Gentoo packages are: asterisk-1.0.12.tar.gz. The libiax is in iax-0.2.2.tar.gz. libgsm1 is probably in gsm-1.0.12.tar.gz. Does this help you? Could you maybe provide links the the websites for all of the deps so users of other distros can find them... /AnMaster Matthias - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Impressions from LinuxTag
Hallo John, it will happen... I had to save the files from the original computers and had to prepare them for transportation back to SUN the last days. Hopefully it will be today or tomorrow. But I will post them definitely. Regards, Matthias Did this ever happen? Regards John W. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Impressions from LinuxTag
Hallo Stuart, we had two SUN Ultra 40 workstations each with two dual core Opterons 280, 8GB of memory and two Nvidia Quadro FX 3500 graphic cards. The monitors were four SUN 20,1 TFT displays with a resolution of 1600x1200. It's not a particularly new feature, and it's documented in The Manual: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/getstart/getstartch5.html#x10-710005.4 ... as all good features should be ;) You only have to configure your xorg.conf file with four screens and there is a section in the preferences.xml file in the FlightGear data directory configuring four cameras for osgViewer. I will post both files tomorrow on the list or I can document it in the wiki. Greetings Matthias - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OT/OSG/SG/FG unusable
Hello Gerard, Hello Mathias, Your 10-20 frames more, seems to me very poor regarding the comparison, i get from 10 to 15 fps with the recent one and a now with that old one i recover from 60 to 85, which is a huge difference. I get an performance increase from about 80/90 fps to 100/110 fps. My average frame rate is about 90/100. So in my environment which is probably not that different to yours (except hardware) I do not have a performace decrease with OSG that some people and you described here. I don't use any fancy optimization parameters: -march=k8 -O2 -pipe, that's all. What is your environment, and what are your compile parameters? Regards Matthias - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OT/OSG/SG/FG unusable
Hello Gerard, The Computer which run FG is: With LInux fedora core 5 ok, I have fedora core 6 Cpu AMD Athlon XP3200 (32 bit) Memory 3 GB DDR dual channel 3200 CPU AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (no dual core) Memory 2 GB ECC DDR dual channel 3200 GPU NVIDIA 7800GS 500MZ Memory 512 Mo DDR3 700MZ AGP 8 driver 1.0-9755 GPU NVIDIA 6600GT 500 MHz Memory 128 DDR3 1000MHz PCI-E driver 1.0-9755 SG built with ./configure --prefix= Same with me, except all FG stuff is in my home directory, so I have to use --with-plib, etc. FG built with /configure --prefix= --with-simgear= --enable-sdl I do not use SDL because freeglut is fixed FG-OSG run with --geometry=1800x1440 --geometry=1280x1024 --bpp=32 dito --enable-real-weather-fetch --timeofday=afternoon --prop:/sim/startup/save-on-exit=false I don't use this ones... But: --enable-game-mode and the already mentioned compiler flags. Regards Matthias - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OT/OSG/SG/FG unusable
Hallo Georg, I have done a fresh checkout of OSG, PLIB, SimGear and FlightGear today at 3 pm in the afternoon. Everything compiled without a problem. But I don't realize a drop in frame rates. But in contrast to my last checkout of 24th April I get about 10-20 frames more. So I think everything is fine with OSG. Regards Matthias On Friday 11 May 2007 22:30:06 Georg Vollnhals wrote: gh.robin schrieb: Again, After many research, i have found an OSG svn/cvs version which suit to me, good frame rate close to that one i get with plib (plib with 3D clouds and shadow). That version is dated 10-04-2007. Regards Hi Gérard, as my OSG framerate has dropped from 85 to 13 I want to go back to the OSG version you mention. Can you help me and tell me what command for *svn* to use to download the version 10-04-2007? Thank you very much in advance Regards Georg EDDW - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-plib on NVIDIA Linux driver 9629
Hi, confirmed. I got this artefacts too. But this happens since today after I have recompiled everything (FlightGear-, SimGear-CVS and PLIB-SVN from 16 November, as the new OSG version of Mathias). Matthias On Friday 17 November 2006 00:14, Pigeon wrote: Can't reproduce this problem under FG-osg either. Unless I've screwed something up, this morning I got the same issue with FG-osg as well. Anyone using NVIDIA 9629 can test this? Pigeon. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, feedback - on Fedora Core 6
Hi, I got everything compiled and did a short performance test compared between the CVS-Version of FlightGear with PLIB of 26th, October and yesterdays OSG release: With the options --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 both versions show almost the same rate of fps with a small advantage to OSG about 1 to 10 percent. If I increase screen size to 1280x1024 --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 --geometry=1280x1024 OSG shows about 5 to 20 percent higher fps then the PLIB version. My frame rates are between 80 and 100 fps (Athlon64 4000+, GeForce 6600 GT and 2GB Memory). Matthias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Thursday 17 August 2006 00:51, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Matthias Boerner -- Thursday 17 August 2006 00:15: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:30, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Matthias Boerner -- Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:27: Shouldn't the old style of view the default property and the new managed-view the one which is selectable? No. Ok, why? Because I like it and think it should be active by default. FlightGear aircraft are property of their creators -- they decide (as long as no sacred rules are violated). Everyone is free to modify his/her copy, to fork it, or even to create their own, better aircraft. We could use some more helicopters. What about you?! Any contribution around the corner? Yes, actually, I am working on a helicopter. I posted that already a while ago. Anyway... If there was a poll (which is not the case), then I would have to say: 5 people welcomed it. *Nobody* has complained about it so far. You didn't argue at all, just imply a sacred rule that doesn't exist. Mathias had the most ridiculous argument: the 100 rich guys with panorama or multi-screen setup, or head-trackers shouldn't have to turn it off. I'm very depressed and sad to cause this pain to that 0.0001% minority, and you can call me old-fashioned, but somehow I think that doing what I consider desirable for 99.% of users is right. m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Thursday 17 August 2006 08:35, Melchior FRANZ wrote: ---snip It was too tempting. It's OK for non-developers to lurk on a development list, it's also OK for them to criticize developers, but demanding justification from those who do the work is a bit too much. Or was too much yesterday late in the evening. Oh, if you mean me I am sorry that I made you losing your temper. I can remember myself that I asked you only two questions without any judgment or criticism. No, if you want to present flightgear in an environment where this stuff does not make sense at all and where people expect a somehow well done and working presentation, you don't want to additionally fiddle with that stuff. Then I take the apology back. You honestly think that's a valid reason? FlightGear should be perfectly preconfigured for retarded booth staff? And the other 100 users should fiddle instead? Now, this is funny. And a very innovative view, indeed. One would think that someone who presents FlightGear to the public should know about configuration options, but that's just me. Well, here is the point: retarded booth staff is not very nice. Did you ever organize a booth and helped? Probably not, otherwise you wouldn't have said that. For your information, I was at the Linux Tag in Wiesbaden and a member of the FlightGear booth staff. But I will stop this here. ---snip Matthias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
Hi Melchior, how can I turn off the property managed-view? Shouldn't the old style of view the default property and the new managed-view the one which is selectable? Greetings Matthias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:30, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Matthias Boerner -- Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:27: how can I turn off the property managed-view? See the ?-key help dialog for key combinations. Additionally, --prop:sim/models/bo105/managed-view=0 works. You can put that into autosave.xml. Shouldn't the old style of view the default property and the new managed-view the one which is selectable? No. Ok, why? Matthias m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
Hi, On Thursday 17 August 2006 00:23, Maik Justus wrote: Hi, I also prefer the new style. (It's the same discussion as we had in the mid 90s with hexagon kartell. Some loved this function, some hated it. At the end it was on per default (my decision ;-) ), but it was able to put it off by default by a menu entry. Is it possible to save sim/models/bo105/managed-view by default? I think it is possible to turn off this mode by using Alt-v and close the session or the way Melchior described in his answer. But what is this mode for? Should it give me a more realistic feeling? If I fly a light left turn my view is wandering to the left side and ends 90 degree of the longitudinal axis of the helicopter. I don't think that is the way it should be. If I use the cyclic flying left and right turns the view rolls heavily. Matthias Maik Melchior FRANZ schrieb: * Matthias Boerner -- Wednesday 16 August 2006 22:27: how can I turn off the property managed-view? See the ?-key help dialog for key combinations. Additionally, --prop:sim/models/bo105/managed-view=0 works. You can put that into autosave.xml. Shouldn't the old style of view the default property and the new managed-view the one which is selectable? No. m. -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=1216 42 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Hi Martin, --snip Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the controls of a real aircraft ? if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and my joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB). Greetings Matthias --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
