Re: [Flightgear-devel] Willfully violating Google Terms of Use

2012-03-12 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
There is a big difference between republishing a printed work and using it for a derivative, such as deducting measurements from a (paper) map to make a computer model of the streets or buildings which are also represented on the map. First off, in the case of a direct republish, the map's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Willfully violating Google Terms of Use

2012-03-12 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
Op 12-3-2012 14:33, Martin Spott schreef: Robin van Steenbergen wrote: In case of a building or airport modeled off a map, how is the original map-maker going to recognize that the runway (12000ft long) was actually derived from *his* map? I'd like to emphasize that willfully violating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Willfully violating Google Terms of Use

2012-03-12 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
Op 12-3-2012 15:26, Martin Spott schreef: That's an interesting case and we probably had a similar one recently in Germany. Did they try to sue anyone who *published* these photographs (on their private Picasa/Flickr/Panoramio or other albums) or just those who *sold* photographs ? Cheers,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

2010-11-11 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
I am not sure whether the content *generated* by a GPL-licensed program (such as FlightGear generating screenshots) would have to be licensed under the GPL as well. To be honest, I doubt it, because a lot of GPL-licensed tools are used to generate copyrighted content, even including

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
Op 7-11-2010 21:14, Durk Talsma schreef - Gijs and Jorg trying to outperform each other in terms of their helicopter flying skills (trying to land it on a chimney, once they found the helipad to easy). Were the choppers loaded with presents and were they wearing red robes and a funny hat,

[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Re: Announcing: FSWeekend 2010

2010-10-29 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
I need a carpool from Eindhoven (or somewhere halfway, like Utrecht) because train and bus schedules to Lelystad are somewhat impractical. The bus to the airport has an hourly or 2-hourly service IIRC, and taking the train and bus takes me over 3 hours to get there (where it would only take me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing: FSWeekend 2010

2010-10-29 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
I need a carpool from Eindhoven (or somewhere halfway, like Utrecht) because train and bus schedules to Lelystad are somewhat impractical. The bus to the airport has an hourly or 2-hourly service IIRC, and taking the train and bus takes me over 3 hours to get there (where it would only take me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing: FSWeekend 2010

2010-10-29 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
I need a carpool from Eindhoven (or somewhere halfway, like Utrecht) because train and bus schedules to Lelystad are somewhat impractical. The bus to the airport has an hourly or 2-hourly service IIRC, and taking the train and bus takes me over 3 hours to get there (where it would only take

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Primus1000 / M877

2010-03-18 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
On 3/18/2010 9:55 AM, James Turner wrote: Replying to some specifics, I'll let Syd comment in general since he's the Primus author, and has seem more documentation than me by far. I've done some work on developing a Primus simulation package, albeit a standalone one for use with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend: Lelystad, November 7, and 8, 2008

2009-08-31 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
And don't forget T-DOSE in Eindhoven, October 3-4th! http://www.t-dose.org I'll be at the FSW like pretty much every year. Still have to figure out which stand I'll participate with. Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi Durk, First, and foremost, however, I would like to sent of a call for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heliflyer :-(

2009-08-01 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 01 août 2009, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hello community, Today I got sad news: Georg Vollnhals, also known as Heliflyer, passed away last month. Heliflyer was very involved with the Project FlightGear. He was very keen on making sceneries; he also programmed one of the first tools for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heliflyer :-(

2009-08-01 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 01 août 2009, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hello community, Today I got sad news: Georg Vollnhals, also known as Heliflyer, passed away last month. Heliflyer was very involved with the Project FlightGear. He was very keen on making sceneries; he also programmed one of the first tools for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP notes on breaking compatibility with previous

2009-07-06 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 05 juillet 2009, Martin Spott wrote: Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Quijano wrote: The specific culprits today are Syd Adams (dhc2, for sure and dhc6 also, I think) and Gerard Robin (PBY-Catalina). There might have been more cases today, and I think we have a few more a/c in cvs who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/O modules

2009-06-28 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'm (still) against binary runtime modules for FlightGear. I'm more curious as to whether we need them. The entire guts of FlightGear are available to almost anyone via external communications (e.g. sockets) and Nasal. Why not write a communications script or Nasal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-05 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 05 mai 2009, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi Torsten and others, I assumed that the function should also be accessible via other means than just the dialog (e.g. keyboard bindings). If not, then I absolutely agree with your change. That's the cleanest way. I'll leave this to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal pushback.nas, 1.1, 1.2

2009-05-04 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 05 mai 2009, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: Alexis Bory wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Nasal In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9196 Modified Files: pushback.nas Log Message: - Now the pushback door will be created only if /sim/model/pushback has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan report

2009-04-24 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 24 avril 2009, Vivian Meazza wrote: Mathias wrote Hi, On Tuesday 21 April 2009 02:34:06 gerard robin wrote: On mardi 21 avril 2009, syd adams wrote: Im getting the same messages at startup , at any airport I try , but usually it stops after an exit and restart

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan report

2009-04-24 Thread gerard robin
Ouups , forget the funny previous mail On vendredi 24 avril 2009, Vivian Meazza wrote: Mathias wrote Hi, On Tuesday 21 April 2009 02:34:06 gerard robin wrote: On mardi 21 avril 2009, syd adams wrote: Im getting the same messages at startup , at any airport I try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] working ridge lift !!

2009-04-23 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 23 avril 2009, Martin Spott wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: I've been seeing this every time I load on Ubuntu Hardy. I'm 90% sure that the ridge-lift enhancement is the root cause - it's the only source change that went in when I rebuilt last. We've occasionally seen lots of NaN's

[Flightgear-devel] F-14 within MP

2009-04-20 Thread gerard robin
Hello, Only a question , to avoid , to die idiot. When i am flying with MP with any Aircraft but a f-14 and when a f-14 is flown by an other pilot , i get within the internal property a folder /f-14/ with several item which seem unuseful (since empty). /f-14/burner /f-14/wing-bend

[Flightgear-devel] F-14 within MP

2009-04-20 Thread gerard robin
Hello, Only a question , to avoid , to die idiot. When i am flying with MP with any Aircraft but a f-14 and when a f-14 is flown by an other pilot , i get within the internal property a folder /f-14/ with several item which seem unuseful (since empty). /f-14/burner /f-14/wing-bend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan report

2009-04-20 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 21 avril 2009, syd adams wrote: Im getting the same messages at startup , at any airport I try , but usually it stops after an exit and restart. I thought it was something local since no one on IRC had the same problem. The same error not only with Vinson I am mainly flying with

[Flightgear-devel] here, a good bargain :)

2009-04-16 Thread gerard robin
Hello, If you love the Corsair , here the opportunity to get one. http://www.provenancefightersales.com/vought_f4u5nl.htm -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcac he with JSBSimAircrafts

2009-04-13 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 13 avril 2009, jean pellotier wrote: Mathias Fröhlich a écrit : I tested this few more times, in a place with severals carriers (eisenhower, foch, clemenceau...) and if i start FG far from this place, then move with the location menu to the closest airport, carriers are not solid

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [ANN] - Aircraft Carrier Improvements

2009-04-11 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 10 avril 2009, Vivian Meazza wrote: Hi, Alexis Bory has added some wonderful detail to our model of the Nimitz class. I think he's mad :-) but see for yourself: ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Nimitz/Vinson-1.jpg ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Nimitz/Vinson-2.jpg The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems generating scenery for Australia

2009-04-04 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
Have you tried inverting the Y-axis? ;-) (Sorry, in the light of the recent prank pulled by YouTube, I couldn't resist.) Jason Cox wrote: Hi all, I am having a problem generating scenery with srtm2 data for Australia the problem is that I can hgtchop the files up ok, but when generating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jsbsim wind correction in opposite direction

2009-04-03 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 01 avril 2009, jean pellotier wrote: Jon S. Berndt a écrit : Yes, the difference stems from the need to know what the wind is bringing, and the vectorial definition of where it's going. The problem was that sometimes we just had a vector where we expected to see North, East,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jsbsim wind correction in opposite direction

2009-04-02 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 02 avril 2009, gerard robin wrote: On mercredi 01 avril 2009, jean pellotier wrote: Jon S. Berndt a écrit : Yes, the difference stems from the need to know what the wind is bringing, and the vectorial definition of where it's going. The problem was that sometimes we just had

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jsbsim wind correction in opposite direction

2009-04-01 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 01 avril 2009, jean pellotier wrote: Jon S. Berndt a écrit : Yes, the difference stems from the need to know what the wind is bringing, and the vectorial definition of where it's going. The problem was that sometimes we just had a vector where we expected to see North, East,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 31 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: SNIP m. No comments. Sure i am wrong everywhere :) :) :) big, very , very big laughing... I do accept to be the bad boy of the story , i don't mind about it, since that story has not any consequence , on the life of the world (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-30 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 30 mars 2009, George Patterson wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:34 AM, LeeE l...@spatial.plus.com wrote: If the aircraft is going to be maintained ex-cvs but not maintained within cvs, then retaining it within cvs just adds another unmaintained aircraft to the list. While

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-28 Thread gerard robin
Hello, I take acknowledge of the Curt mail about my whitdraw from the CVS, and of the different answers to his question. When i sent the mal to Curt , which inform him that i will not longer maintain the CVS models ( from me) , my target was ONLY to ask him to delete my right access , in order

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSimAircrafts

2009-03-25 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 25 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, On Tuesday 24 March 2009 23:42:18 jean pellotier wrote: I use a scenario that make it solid, and the wire usable, and now after the ground cache change i removed all solid part and it's still solid , and more dangerous because the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, On Monday 23 March 2009 13:14:49 gerard robin wrote: SNIP Hmm, I have now tried with the default cessna. Due to the low approach speed this works well. Starting at the Nimitz and landing there. Applying brakes brings the cessna to rest wrt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starter spin time patch

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, Erik Hofman wrote: Specter wrote: I write patch for changes of JSB turbine starter spin time. Dave just recently committed this patch to JSBSim and I am preparing a new sync between them soon so it'll end op in FlightGear that way. Erik Does that will modify the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On mardi 24 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, On Monday 23 March 2009 13:14:49 gerard robin wrote: SNIP Hmm, I have now tried with the default cessna. Due to the low approach speed this works well. Starting at the Nimitz and landing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSimAircrafts

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, jean pellotier wrote: jean pellotier a écrit : Vivian Meazza a écrit : I've been testing the carrier stuff with YASim. It usually works, but a occasionally the deck isn't solid, and the ac falls right through on landing. This bug is intermittent: I have been unable

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, Martin Spott wrote: gerard robin wrote: Mathias sorry for the Noise , you won't have to learn to fly the F8 . As Mathias probably does better with the F-18 than any other member of this crowd, I think he would not face too severe difficulties doing carrier landings

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSimAircrafts

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 24 mars 2009, jean pellotier wrote: gerard robin a écrit : foch/clemenceau (the same carrier, old version from cvs ) was built for JSBsim aircrafts ( the Crusader and others from my hangar) , it was (is) probably not YASim compatible ( not consistent, not solid ). I use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim

2009-03-24 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 25 mars 2009, Martin Spott wrote: gerard robin wrote: On mardi 24 mars 2009, Martin Spott wrote: gerard robin wrote: As Mathias probably does better with the F-18 than any other member of this crowd, I think he would not face too severe difficulties doing carrier landings

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 23 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, On Sunday 22 March 2009 02:39:29 gerard robin wrote: With JSBsim aircraft i get now some strange behaviour regarding the groundcache on a moving Carrier. We can start from catapult on carrier, and the Aircraft is sitting correctly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 23 mars 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:14:49 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231314.49784.ghma...@gmail.com: My purpose was to point that error: When we start FG with a JSBSim aircraft on a moving carrier the groundcache is right, the Aircraft behaviour

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-23 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 23 mars 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Hi, ..sorry guys, I hit the wrong button: ..on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:54:02 +0100, Gerard wrote in message 200903231554.03018.ghma...@gmail.com: On lundi 23 mars 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: SNIP ..I am (quite possibly cluelessly) suggesting runways

[Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-22 Thread gerard robin
Hello, Mathias With JSBsim aircraft i get now some strange behaviour regarding the groundcache on a moving Carrier. We can start from catapult on carrier, and the Aircraft is sitting correctly in place on the Ship , it follows correctly the speed of the carrier. = No problem :) After

[Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-21 Thread gerard robin
Hello, Mathias With JSBsim aircraft i get now some strange behaviour regarding the groundcache on a moving Carrier. We can start from catapult on carrier, and the Aircraft is sitting correctly in place on the Ship , it follows correctly the speed of the carrier. = No problem :) After

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 19 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, Given this thread. I have checked in the change to simgear. I have also updated the default c172 and selectively those submodels that I thought need some update. And I have updated all the ac models in the AI and the Models subdirectory.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 19 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On jeudi 19 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, Given this thread. I have checked in the change to simgear. I have also updated the default c172 and selectively those submodels that I thought need some update. And I have updated all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 19 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On jeudi 19 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On jeudi 19 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, Given this thread. I have checked in the change to simgear. I have also updated the default c172 and selectively those submodels that I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 16 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: While we are at it, here some comments on tanker.nas: There's a menu entry AI/MP-Tanker, which opens a small dialog where you can request a tanker. It'll contact you and tell you something like this: MOBIL3 at 15000, heading 130 with 250 knots,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 19 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: With the usual AI tankers we have a lot of data regarding the Radar x-shift y-shift in-range , rotation, v-offset, .. and so on That tanker feature don't gives such information

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-19 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 19 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: Then, do you mean that the old Radar Fashion will be removed, what a pity. I haven't planned that (yet). But in the long run it should get removed. This was an early mechanism to get the brand-new AI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-16 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 16 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi all, For ac models, we have currently a step in the scenery loading process that modifies the material settings to match the material settings of the old plib loader. In fact this just overwrites the material settings and throws away useful

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-16 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 16 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On lundi 16 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi all, For ac models, we have currently a step in the scenery loading process that modifies the material settings to match the material settings of the old plib loader. In fact this just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nimitz elevators non solid

2009-03-16 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 16 mars 2009, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, On Thursday 12 March 2009 22:43:15 jean pellotier wrote: I've got a problem with the elevators on nimitz, since some days, when called up, it looks ok, but elevator 3d model isn't solid, the part solid is where is the elevator down.

[Flightgear-devel] white horizontal line on screen

2009-03-15 Thread gerard robin
Hello, I am getting an horizontal line on screen , that is not new, i had it before, (at least two months ago) . The position of the line is dependent of the view angle, bottom when looking to down, top when looking to up. It is not graphic card dependent , since i get it on several GPU (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] white horizontal line on screen

2009-03-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: I am getting an horizontal line on screen , that is not new, Yes, that's where near-camera and far-camera meet (well, or *should* meet :-). It's a known problem, and was reported before. It should

[Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread gerard robin
If that is . right = allow aar-equipped aircraft to request a tanker everywhere without scenario == You should know that aircrafts which have some specific AAR won't be able to use it. -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: You should know that aircrafts which have some specific AAR won't be able to use it. All that work(ed) with the tanker scenarios should also work with this. It doesn't do anything magic. Just offer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: = make sure /systems/refuel/ exists = Since a specific AAR could use any other specific property This should have been systems/refuel, without the leading slash. It's the tanker's property /ai

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nimitz elevators non solid

2009-03-12 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 12 mars 2009, jean pellotier wrote: hi, I've got a problem with the elevators on nimitz, since some days, when called up, it looks ok, but elevator 3d model isn't solid, the part solid is where is the elevator down. each try i finish on the low position (in best case) under the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reproducible crash in mk_viii.cxx

2009-03-11 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 11 mars 2009, Jon S. Berndt wrote: With JSBSim aircrafts i get exactly the same problem/errors , it happens mainly when i do an airborn for long trip ( more than 1 hour) with autopilot. I got that errors with several models not only a specific one. To me, that is not new,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AIrcraft still refering to space-bar for starting

2009-03-11 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 11 mars 2009, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Hi Guys, Having noticed that the Vulcan still refers to starting the engines using the space bar (whoops!), I did a quick grep of the .xml files in Aircraft, and found reference to space in the aircraft indicated below. If any aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saving Instant Replay to a File

2009-03-10 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 10 mars 2009, Stefan Seifert wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:16:23 Matthew Barousse wrote: Hey all, I'm currently attempting to modify flight gear, so that I may save and re-play flights, exactly like the instant replay feature, but with a save file. My next task is to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reproducible crash in mk_viii.cxx

2009-03-10 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 11 mars 2009, syd adams wrote: Thanks , I was trying to figure out how to use gdb too :). I had a few errors here , maybe related . While testing the P47 , I took off from KSFO and headed towards the Nimitz.At about the coastline , altitude about 2000 ft every thing paused... I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reproducible crash in mk_viii.cxx

2009-03-09 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 09 mars 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Geoff, On Sunday 08 March 2009 20:56:52 Geoff McLane wrote: Yep! Tried ... --aircraft=CitationX --airport=CYOW --runway=25 --fg-scenery= $HOME/Scenery-1.0.1 Thanks for you report. Good to know, I'm not the only one, at that adds to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible , of course, but trivial or hair pulling tas k ?

2009-03-09 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 09 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote: On dimanche 08 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Nicolas Quijano -- Sunday 08 March 2009: As for secret sources, they'll name themselves if they feel like it, That would be fun! But I won't hold my breath. I don't know if i am part

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reproducible crash in mk_viii.cxx

2009-03-09 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 09 mars 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Gerard, On Monday 09 March 2009 12:06:58 gerard robin wrote: Yes with JSBSim there is the same NAN error , more or les randomly. Difficult to catch a specific cause. Do you mean that you can replicate the specific bug I reported, or that you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course,

2009-03-05 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 05 mars 2009, Detlef Faber wrote: Ncolas, I didn't want to comment on your first post, everyone has a bad day sometimes, but here I like to add my 2 ct anyway. I'm a simple content contributor with very little background in programming. When I made my first Aircraft (the bf109) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:36:30 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message ..then you have exotic compromises like crashing on ice, dead stick landings in methane clouds downwind of broken pipelines, ripe full hydrazine tanks as you ditch in freezing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-15 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Nicolas Quijano wrote: Gerard, you're not getting it : if I want wildfire to spread when I crash a Crusader, you shouldn't have a say in it, period. Let me try to explain it from the user's perspective : a user of both the dev's creation, the simulation, and in

[Flightgear-devel] wildfire ?

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
Hello , I noticed about wildfire the default within the preference file is enabled type=bool userarchive=ytrue/enabled fire-on-crash type=bool userarchive=ytrue/fire-on-crash Won't it be better to have it default false ? I did not find any box within menu to modify it like we have with cloud

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wildfire ?

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: Won't it be better to have it default false ? Yes. I did not find any box within menu to modify it like we have with cloud , light and so on. Menu-Environment-Wildfire Settings

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: Log Message: withdraw the game coat + environment + wildfire + fire-on-crash type=bool false/fire-on-crash + /wildfire

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: Log Message: withdraw the game coat + environment + wildfire + fire-on-crash type=bool false/fire

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusa der Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: On dimanche 15 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 23:56 +0100, gerard robin wrote: On samedi 14 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: On samedi 14 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml , 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 15 février 2009, Laurent wrote: IMHO, in that case this is a bug about when wildfire should be started. If the plane is actually missing a landing on water, it should be detected by the main program as it, not as a land crash. A catalina crashing on land should create fire.

[Flightgear-devel] bad FG_ROOT/--fg-root

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
Wy i do have that stupid message ? *** *** *** Warning: changing bad FG_ROOT/--fg-root to '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/data' *** *** I never had it before ( from the prehistoric FG ages) Last fgfs cvs last stable osg (2.8) and plib svn -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai

[Flightgear-devel] /consumables/fuel/tank[0]/level-lb??? s

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
I don't understand this : /tank[0]/level-lb seems to be replaced by /tank[0]/level-lbs What is the matter ? Since the properties which are declared within the FDM ( JSBSim) become wrong. thanks -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] /consumables/fuel/tank[0]/level-lb??? s

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 12 février 2009, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, gerard robin wrote: I don't understand this : /tank[0]/level-lb seems to be replaced by /tank[0]/level-lbs Hi, Yes, since we use -lbs everywhere else (in JSBSim too) and this lone level-lb property casued an annoying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] bad FG_ROOT/--fg-root

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 12 février 2009, gerard robin wrote: On jeudi 12 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 19:05 +0100, gerard robin wrote: Wy i do have that stupid message ? *** *** *** Warning: changing bad FG_ROOT/--fg-root to '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] /consumables/fuel/tank[0]/level-lb??? s

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 12 février 2009, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Anders Gidenstam wrote: AFAICS Stuart did his best to track down and update all uses of level-lb in CVS. Oups, it was Syd who did this work. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers, Anders No problem, :) In anycase when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] /consumables/fuel/tank[0]/level-lb??? s

2009-02-12 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 12 février 2009, syd adams wrote: No problem, :) In anycase when one don't know an aircraft it is ever difficult for him to update the model. I guess that it is better to ask to the original author to do the update, when necessary. Cheers -- Gérard

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib/svn recommended

2009-02-11 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 11 février 2009, Ron Jensen wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 02:47 +0100, gerard robin wrote: How do we get the plib/svn which is the link, ? Within Plib official page http://plib.sourceforge.net/download.html there is nothing about svn thanks http://sourceforge.net/svn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib/svn recommended

2009-02-11 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 11 février 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Wednesday 11 February 2009: I disagree, since there is a mixing of supposed to be developer 'developing' and user 'using'. Sure, every developer is also a user. You are certainly a FlightGear developer. But that's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 10 février 2009, Harry Campigli wrote: I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it has gone off since version 9. However I have always managed to build FG from source on it with a bit off mucking around but never Terragear. For along time I have wondered about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib/svn recommended

2009-02-10 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 29 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: In the last time I've submitted several fixes to plib, all of which are now committed. It is now recommended to use plib/svn (HEAD). Here's a list of the most important changes: - fix calculation of the slider handle size in textbox widgets

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG sound files

2009-02-09 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 09 février 2009, alex wrote: Does OpenAL support any other sound file configuration other than .wav? I have problems with OpenAL unable to buffer some .wav files but runs fine with other .wav files. Does anyone know of a particular reason for this. Your thoughts would be appreciated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 07 février 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Ian, On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:39:13 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net ..ah, that's where I try to help out. ;o) I'm sorry , I have a policy of not accepting cold callers. I hope you find comfort in the fact that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 07 février 2009, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:50:57 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:22:09 Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: As I said the .lwo file that Blender generated did _not_ contain

Re: [Flightgear-devel] proper ground reactions (was YASim sliding helicopters bug)

2009-02-07 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 06 février 2009, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Where is the proper gear model patch, Martin? mail.flightgear.org is down so the archives prior to 2005 are unreachable. I'm interested in taking a look. I'm also wondering what is stopping you from grabbing a copy of JSBSim,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-25 Thread gerard robin
On dimanche 25 janvier 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2009 21:49:21 Jon S. Berndt wrote: I would hope that synching JSBSim would be seamless by now. Of course, it doesn't usually work like that. :-) The part we considered risky was that possibly quite a few aircraft needed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, syd adams wrote: I have to agree with the last 2 options maybe keep a select few to go with the release. It would make the first time data update more pleasant :). We had it (some years ago) the first time data update more pleasant when there was a specific

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. Have some rest :) :):) CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the users. Please. The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a wide

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, syd adams wrote: Hi Emmanuel , My thoughts were to move the extra or non sellable aircraft out of cvs /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , so this issue is of some interest to me Cheers Hi, Syd don't be wrong you were

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume (was: Doppler volume)

2009-01-22 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 22 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * John Denker -- Thursday 22 January 2009: On 01/22/2009 06:05 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: But it depends on the frequency pattern, no? So we'd need to analyze the spectrum ... time to use libfftw3. No, the 1/r^2 attenuation is independent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume

2009-01-22 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 22 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * gerard robin -- Thursday 22 January 2009: On jeudi 22 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: The law is the same, but the distances aren't. Lower frequency travels farther. Not fully right. Only right when high frequencies are stopped

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: [...] Modified Files: Boeing314A.xml Log Message: Add the license statement + license + licenseNameGPL (General Public License)/licenseName +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-21 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Ah sorry, that slipped my attention, you are right. I'll ask Jon about it. Erik We should discuss this, then, because the impacts may be more far reaching. I asked the Boeing licensing people some time ago about our flight models. They

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 21 janvier 2009, Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Boeing314 In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11895 Modified Files: Boeing314A.xml Log Message: Add the license statement + This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain errors report

2009-01-20 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 17 janvier 2009, Martin Spott wrote: Brian Schack wrote: There are several huge and very unnatural walls in the Himalayas, both running NS and EW. I'll give the line of latitude or longitude that the wall runs along, and the end coordinates of the walls: The underlying SRTM

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