[Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
I could be imagining this, but I seem to recall a while back, someone asking if it was possible to keep a 2d panel visible all the time, even in external views. I just took a quick peek at .../Cockpit/panel.cxx and it doesn't appear that we have the ability to do this, but I just thought I'd ask in case there is some other mechanism someone has added? I am working on a project where we are modeling a skydiver in free fall, and we want to display some basic information on the edge of the screen (like decent rate). But because this is not an aircraft, it makes more sense to use external views. Also we are trying hard to avoid needing to modify source code, and we'd like to do this in v2.0 (the most current release). The HUD would be another alternative, but we'd like to avoid needing to extend the HUD code to add our specific widgets. Perhaps we could use gui widgets and display the information numerically, but an instrument communicates the data so much better. Are there any other options or ideas that I'm missing? Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
On Tue, 31 May 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: I am working on a project where we are modeling a skydiver in free fall, and we want to display some basic information on the edge of the screen (like decent rate). But because this is not an aircraft, it makes more sense to use external views. Also we are trying hard to avoid needing to modify source code, and we'd like to do this in v2.0 (the most current release). You could use the display class in Nasal/screen.nas to display chosen properties. It might not be pretty enough for your application, though. (I don't remember if it supports other presentations than just property values.) Example (loosely) from ZLT-NT: var left = screen.display.new(20, 10); # Static condition left.add (/fdm/jsbsim/instrumentation/gas-pressure-psf); left.add (/fdm/jsbsim/buoyant_forces/gas-cell/ballonet[0]/volume-ft3, /fdm/jsbsim/buoyant_forces/gas-cell/ballonet[1]/volume-ft3); left.add(/fdm/jsbsim/static-condition/net-lift-lbs); left.add(/fdm/jsbsim/atmosphere/T-R); left.add(/fdm/jsbsim/buoyant_forces/gas-cell/temp-R); left.add(/fdm/jsbsim/ballonets/valve-pos-norm[0], /fdm/jsbsim/ballonets/valve-pos-norm[1]); Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
Am 31.05.11 20:00, schrieb Curtis Olson: Are there any other options or ideas that I'm missing? Can you spawn an external application and render it's output window on top of FlightGear? If so, fgpanel might be worth looking at. You find it in utils/fgpanel and an example how to use it is in Aircraft/SenecaII/Panels/Panel1.xml. Torsten -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:00:58 AM Curtis Olson wrote: I could be imagining this, but I seem to recall a while back, someone asking if it was possible to keep a 2d panel visible all the time, even in external views. I just took a quick peek at .../Cockpit/panel.cxx and it doesn't appear that we have the ability to do this, but I just thought I'd ask in case there is some other mechanism someone has added? I am working on a project where we are modeling a skydiver in free fall, and we want to display some basic information on the edge of the screen (like decent rate). But because this is not an aircraft, it makes more sense to use external views. Also we are trying hard to avoid needing to modify source code, and we'd like to do this in v2.0 (the most current release). The HUD would be another alternative, but we'd like to avoid needing to extend the HUD code to add our specific widgets. Perhaps we could use gui widgets and display the information numerically, but an instrument communicates the data so much better. Are there any other options or ideas that I'm missing? Thanks, Curt. Have you thought about modeling the skydiver as an aircraft with the cockpit being the view out of his/her goggles? The panel would be nothing and the instruments could be just positioned about a meter in front of the pilots point of view. You could then keep the instruments in view as the pilot changed his view direction (IE. look up, down, left, right) by rotating them about the pilots head. You should be able to do all of this using the existing XML. Or you could create a 3D model for the skydivers body and possition the instruments on his/her body (IE on the top of the belly mounted chute pack) so that you need to look down to see them. Hal -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
Thanks everyone for the responses. So far the Anders' suggestion of using screen.nas seems to have the most promise. Torsten: I have another project I want to use the fgpanel system for, but with this project we are trying to keep the logistics of starting things up as simple as possible, also I'm not sure how you would keep the fgpanel display in front of the FlightGear display if you had to click on the flightgear display to interact with it? Hal: it's important with this particular project to have the instrumentation attached to the screen when the view changes or pans around, even in tower or fly-by views we want to see the instrumentation clearly. Regards, Curt. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Hal V. Engel wrote: On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:00:58 AM Curtis Olson wrote: I could be imagining this, but I seem to recall a while back, someone asking if it was possible to keep a 2d panel visible all the time, even in external views. I just took a quick peek at .../Cockpit/panel.cxx and it doesn't appear that we have the ability to do this, but I just thought I'd ask in case there is some other mechanism someone has added? I am working on a project where we are modeling a skydiver in free fall, and we want to display some basic information on the edge of the screen (like decent rate). But because this is not an aircraft, it makes more sense to use external views. Also we are trying hard to avoid needing to modify source code, and we'd like to do this in v2.0 (the most current release). The HUD would be another alternative, but we'd like to avoid needing to extend the HUD code to add our specific widgets. Perhaps we could use gui widgets and display the information numerically, but an instrument communicates the data so much better. Are there any other options or ideas that I'm missing? Thanks, Curt. Have you thought about modeling the skydiver as an aircraft with the cockpit being the view out of his/her goggles? The panel would be nothing and the instruments could be just positioned about a meter in front of the pilots point of view. You could then keep the instruments in view as the pilot changed his view direction (IE. look up, down, left, right) by rotating them about the pilots head. You should be able to do all of this using the existing XML. Or you could create a 3D model for the skydivers body and possition the instruments on his/her body (IE on the top of the belly mounted chute pack) so that you need to look down to see them. Hal -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel visibility
On Tue, 31 May 2011 15:46:32 -0500, Curtis wrote in message banlktiklhbuyyxd93edqa_mm+5fv88d...@mail.gmail.com: Thanks everyone for the responses. So far the Anders' suggestion of using screen.nas seems to have the most promise. Torsten: I have another project I want to use the fgpanel system for, but with this project we are trying to keep the logistics of starting things up as simple as possible, also I'm not sure how you would keep the fgpanel display in front of the FlightGear display if you had to click on the flightgear display to interact with it? Hal: it's important with this particular project to have the instrumentation attached to the screen when the view changes or pans around, even in tower or fly-by views we want to see the instrumentation clearly. ..don't we do FPV-style OSD? E.g.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCYYkehYrIfeature=related from http://www.google.no/search?num=100q=FPV+OSD or http://www.google.no/search?q=FPV-style+OSDhl=enprmd=ivnssource=univtbm=vidtbo=usa=Xei=QmDlTcPAGNDEsgaL2bDrBQved=0CC4QqwQbiw=1805bih=1022 ..me, I just use the HUD. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
