Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2010-01-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Markus Zojer wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 Could someone please update the B-1B to the more actual version (for fg 
 2.0) below:

Done.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2008-08-24 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Markus,

Markus Zojer wrote:

 http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz

Nice - but two texture files are missing  :-)

The 'Models/pilot_b1b.ac' requires 'white-black-gradient-stripes.rgb'
and 'Models/seat.ac' requires 'grey-blue-flood.rgb' - would you add
these two files ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2008-08-24 Thread Markus Zojer
Ah sorry, forgot them when copying the files over from the f-14.

Now they are included within the downloadable file or get them at:
Aircraft/F-14/f-14b/Models/Cockpit

Thanks for your work,
Markus

Martin Spott wrote:
 Hi Markus,

 Markus Zojer wrote:

   
 http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz
 

 Nice - but two texture files are missing  :-)

 The 'Models/pilot_b1b.ac' requires 'white-black-gradient-stripes.rgb'
 and 'Models/seat.ac' requires 'grey-blue-flood.rgb' - would you add
 these two files ?

 Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2008-04-25 Thread Markus Zojer
Hello there!

Could someone apply that?

Thanks in advance,
Markus

Markus Zojer wrote:
 Hi Curt!

 Some updates to the bone, would you be so kind to apply it?

 http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B0013.tar.gz

 Thanks in advance,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2008-04-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Markus Zojer -- Friday 25 April 2008:
 Could someone apply that?

Done, thanks.

For me to commit updates there should be an archive with only
updates and diffs (not *everything* again, every time!), and
there should be no annoying top-level directory that prevents
easy unpacking (see fg-submit). Then I'd like to have a list
of changes for the log messages, and a list of files to be
deleted. But then again: there are others who'll enjoy the
update without demanding extras, so I'll pass next time. :-}

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-28 Thread gerard robin
On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
 Hi all!

 Major B-1B update, please apply the whole folder since almost all files
 are updated.
 B-1B file is located in subfolder;
 http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B0011.tar.gz

 Thanks,
 markus

Hello, Markus


With only few free time available to test your last B-1B, i could notice that 
your OSG effects are wonderful, i do love the Afterburner and Engine   blast 

Thanks

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-28 Thread SydSandy
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:07:13 +0100
gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
  Hi all!
 
  Major B-1B update, please apply the whole folder since almost all files
  are updated.
  B-1B file is located in subfolder;
  http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B0011.tar.gz
 
  Thanks,
  markus
 
 Hello, Markus
 
 
 With only few free time available to test your last B-1B, i could notice that 
 your OSG effects are wonderful, i do love the Afterburner and Engine   blast 
 
 Thanks
 
 Regards
 

I haven't tested it myself , but Ive noticed that FGrun cant load .osg model , 
(on Linux) , I don't know if this will be an issue with windows users...
Cheers


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-28 Thread Markus Zojer
SydSandy wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:07:13 +0100
 gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
 
 Hi all!

 Major B-1B update, please apply the whole folder since almost all files
 are updated.
 B-1B file is located in subfolder;
 http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B0011.tar.gz

 Thanks,
 markus

   
 Hello, Markus


 With only few free time available to test your last B-1B, i could notice 
 that 
 your OSG effects are wonderful, i do love the Afterburner and Engine   blast 

 Thanks

 Regards

 

 I haven't tested it myself , but Ive noticed that FGrun cant load .osg model 
 , (on Linux) , I don't know if this will be an issue with windows users...
 Cheers


   
Thanks gerard! Check out also the breaking smoke(120 kts) and flares 
(ctrl d)!

Thanks for reporting that issue with FGrun, since .osg will get more 
popular in the future maybe it would be a good feature to integrate the 
.osg format into FGrun.
Appart from the .osg not being loaded, are the rest of the models loaded?

fly on,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-28 Thread gerard robin
On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
 SydSandy wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:07:13 +0100
 
  gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
  Hi all!

 Thanks gerard! Check out also the breaking smoke(120 kts) and flares
 (ctrl d)!



Oh yes these are nice too, with my first short first test, i did not have time 
to look at your whole osg  animation.
Don't be surprise if a day you see on the BlackBird-A and B a copy  of your 
animations   :)

 Thanks for reporting that issue with FGrun, since .osg will get more
 popular in the future maybe it would be a good feature to integrate the
 .osg format into FGrun.
 Appart from the .osg not being loaded, are the rest of the models loaded?

 fly on,
 markus

About FGrun,  i could notice, too, that  the osg models are  not displayed.

However there  is an other case when the model is not correctly  displayed , 
it is when the model is made of several sub models (parents and several 
children) 
 like most of the aircrafts  i have made, for instance with the  P-38L  we get 
only the nose , the BlackBird the front part, Noratlas only the wing..
Only KfreeFlight (cvs version)  is able to build (from the .xml files) and to 
display these multi components models.
FGrun seems to be able to display only the monolithic  models  


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-28 Thread SydSandy
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:13:31 +0100
gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
  SydSandy wrote:
   On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:07:13 +0100
  
   gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On mer 28 novembre 2007, Markus Zojer wrote:
   Hi all!
 
  Thanks gerard! Check out also the breaking smoke(120 kts) and flares
  (ctrl d)!
 
 
 
 Oh yes these are nice too, with my first short first test, i did not have 
 time 
 to look at your whole osg  animation.
 Don't be surprise if a day you see on the BlackBird-A and B a copy  of your 
 animations   :)
 
  Thanks for reporting that issue with FGrun, since .osg will get more
  popular in the future maybe it would be a good feature to integrate the
  .osg format into FGrun.
  Appart from the .osg not being loaded, are the rest of the models loaded?
 
  fly on,
  markus
 
 About FGrun,  i could notice, too, that  the osg models are  not displayed.
 
 However there  is an other case when the model is not correctly  displayed , 
 it is when the model is made of several sub models (parents and several 
 children) 
  like most of the aircrafts  i have made, for instance with the  P-38L  we 
 get 
 only the nose , the BlackBird the front part, Noratlas only the wing..
 Only KfreeFlight (cvs version)  is able to build (from the .xml files) and to 
 display these multi components models.
 FGrun seems to be able to display only the monolithic  models  
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
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Probably a quick solution would be to load the .osg  as separate models in the 
animation file , then FGrun shouldn't complain 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-15 Thread Markus Zojer

Hallo curtis!

Due to compatibility issues with current cvs I had to update the 
following files:


- readme-bone.txt
- B-1B-set.xml
- Nasal/b1b.nas
- Models/Instruments-3d/apmode.xml

please apply the attached files,

many thanks,
markus
?xml version=1.0?
!--

B-1B set file.

2007-5-10 Markus Zojer

--

PropertyList
  sim

startup
  splash-textureAircraft/B-1B/bone.rgb/splash-texture
/startup

flight-modelyasim/flight-model
statusalpha/status
authorMarkus Zojer/author
aeroB-1B-yasim/aero
fuel-fraction1.0/fuel-fraction

descriptionRockwell B-1B Lancer/description

number-views type=int archive=y6/number-views

chase-distance-m type=double archive=y-65.0/chase-distance-m

view n=0
  internal archive=ytrue/internal
  config
x-offset-m archive=y-0.67/x-offset-m!-- left-/right+ --
y-offset-m archive=y1.70/y-offset-m!-- up+/down- --
z-offset-m archive=y7.53/z-offset-m!-- back+ --
pitch-offset-deg0/pitch-offset-deg
default-field-of-view-deg60/default-field-of-view-deg
  /config
/view



!-- Shift the camera target point back --
view n=1
  config
target-z-offset-m archive=y type=double20.0/target-z-offset-m
  /config
/view

view n=2
  config
x-offset-m archive=y type=double8.0/x-offset-m
z-offset-m archive=y-19.7/z-offset-m
target-z-offset-m archive=y type=double20.0/target-z-offset-m
  /config
/view

view n=3
  config
target-z-offset-m archive=y type=double20.0/target-z-offset-m
  /config
/view

view n=5
  config
target-z-offset-m archive=y type=double2.0/target-z-offset-m
  /config
/view

sound
  audibletrue/audible
  pathAircraft/B-1B/Sounds/b-1b-sound.xml/path
/sound

submodels
	serviceable type=booltrue/serviceable
	pathAircraft/B-1B/Submodels/sub_lancer.xml/path
/submodels

!--  panel
  pathAircraft/B-1B/Panels/there_is_no_spoon.747/path
/panel--


!--hud
  pathAircraft/B-1B/Huds/B-52F-hud1.xml/path
  visibilitytrue/visibility
/hud--

model
  pathAircraft/B-1B/Models/B-1B.xml/path
 !-- doors
		 fuelhatch/
		 hatch/
	/doors--
	!--B-1B

/B-1B--

/model

systems
	autopilot
pathAircraft/B-1B/Systems/b1b-autopilot.xml/path
	/autopilot
  !--electrical
pathAircraft/B-1B/Systems/b1b-electrical.xml/path
  /electrical--
/systems

wing-sweep
  setting0.00/setting
  setting0.23/setting
  setting0.42/setting
  setting0.80/setting
  setting1.00/setting
/wing-sweep

flaps
  setting0.0/setting
  setting0.5/setting
  setting1.0/setting
/flaps

spoilers
  setting0.0/setting
  setting0.5/setting
  setting1.0/setting
/spoilers

!-- AoA Indexer target 1.0 deg --
 aoa-indexer
   too-slow-deg2.5/too-slow-deg  !-- target +1.5 deg --
   slow-deg1.5/slow-deg  !-- target +0.5 deg -- 
   fast-deg0.5/fast-deg  !-- target -0.5 deg -- 
   too-fast-deg-0.5/too-fast-deg  !-- target -1.5 deg -- 
 /aoa-indexer

help
  titleB-1B Lancer/title
  key
namej/k/name
descdecrease/increase spoilers/desc
  /key
  key
	  nameo/name
	  descafterburner on/desc
  /key
  key
	  nameO/name
	  descafterburner off/desc
  /key
  key
	  named/name
	  descsweep wing back/desc
  /key
  key
	  nameD/name
	  descsweep wing fwd/desc
  /key
  !-- key
	  nameCTRL B/name
	  desctoggle airbrakes/desc
  /key--
  lineAfterburner(ab) used for TakeOff/Climb/line
  lineFor takeoff apply 1/2 flaps, full ab/line
  lineRotate at 160kts/takeoff at 170/180kts/line
  line---/line
  lineIt's OSG baby!/line
  lineTerrain Following/Avoidance Systems:/line
  line1. Adjust clearance (SET CLEAR or CLR PLN)/line
  line2. Toggle master switch(es) on/line
  line3a. For TFS: switch PRTY to TERRAIN FOLLOW/line
  line3b. For TFS: over water switch PRTY to MAP/line
  key
	  nameCtrl D/name
	  descFlare out/desc
  /key
  lineGood Luck!/line
/help

   !--ai
	enabled type=booltrue/enabled
	scenariorefueling_demo/scenario
/ai--

  /sim



  autopilot
settings
  target-agl-ft type=float1000/target-agl-ft
  target-altitude-ft type=float8000/target-altitude-ft
  target-pitch-deg type=float0/target-pitch-deg
  target-vfps type=float0/target-vfps
  take-off-pitch-deg type=float2.0/take-off-pitch-deg
  target-speed-kt type=float290.0/target-speed-kt
  climb-out-initial-pitch-deg type=float6.0/climb-out-initial-pitch-deg
  climb-out-final-pitch-deg 

Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-13 Thread Markus Zojer
Ok, now the following files need to be updated/added:

B-1B/readme-bone.txt
B-1B/B-1B-set.xml
B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas
+B-1B/Nasal/flightcontrols.nas
B-1B/Systems/b1b-autopilot.xml
B-1B/Submodels/sub_lancer.xml

On first sight the rest seemed to be updated correctly.

Thanks,
markus

Curtis Olson wrote:
 On Nov 13, 2007 10:52 AM, Markus Zojer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry for the noise, but it seems that the old files were not updated,
 only new ones added.
 I have no idea how the update system works, but u could just
 delete the
 old folder and create a new one ;-)


 It's difficult to delete the old folder and restart because of the way 
 cvs works internally.  If you can give me a list of files that are no 
 longer needed, I can remove them.

 Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-13 Thread Curtis Olson
Ok, I see what I did ... my mistake ... I inadvertently ran the commit from
the Models directory, not the top level.  Sorry about that.  These files
should be there now.

Regards,

Curt.


On Nov 13, 2007 12:03 PM, Markus Zojer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, now the following files need to be updated/added:

 B-1B/readme-bone.txt
 B-1B/B-1B-set.xml
 B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas
 +B-1B/Nasal/flightcontrols.nas
 B-1B/Systems/b1b-autopilot.xml
 B-1B/Submodels/sub_lancer.xml

 On first sight the rest seemed to be updated correctly.

 Thanks,
 markus

 Curtis Olson wrote:
  On Nov 13, 2007 10:52 AM, Markus Zojer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry for the noise, but it seems that the old files were not
 updated,
  only new ones added.
  I have no idea how the update system works, but u could just
  delete the
  old folder and create a new one ;-)
 
 
  It's difficult to delete the old folder and restart because of the way
  cvs works internally.  If you can give me a list of files that are no
  longer needed, I can remove them.
 
  Regards,
 
  Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2007-11-13 Thread Markus Zojer
Excellent, thanks again,

Markus

Curtis Olson wrote:
 Ok, I see what I did ... my mistake ... I inadvertently ran the commit 
 from the Models directory, not the top level.  Sorry about that.  
 These files should be there now.

 Regards,

 Curt.


 On Nov 13, 2007 12:03 PM, Markus Zojer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, now the following files need to be updated/added:

 B-1B/readme-bone.txt
 B-1B/B-1B-set.xml
 B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas
 +B-1B/Nasal/flightcontrols.nas
 B-1B/Systems/b1b-autopilot.xml
 B-1B/Submodels/sub_lancer.xml

 On first sight the rest seemed to be updated correctly.

 Thanks,
 markus

 Curtis Olson wrote:
  On Nov 13, 2007 10:52 AM, Markus Zojer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry for the noise, but it seems that the old files were
 not updated,
  only new ones added.
  I have no idea how the update system works, but u could just
  delete the
  old folder and create a new one ;-)
 
 
  It's difficult to delete the old folder and restart because of
 the way
  cvs works internally.  If you can give me a list of files that
 are no
  longer needed, I can remove them.
 
  Regards,
 
  Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2 patch

2007-08-02 Thread Markus Zojer

Can someone please apply the little -diff file attached?
It should target the bugs reported.

Many thanks,
Markus
? -d.diff
Index: B-1B-set.xml
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/B-1B/B-1B-set.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.3 B-1B-set.xml
--- B-1B-set.xml	1 Aug 2007 16:22:48 -	1.3
+++ B-1B-set.xml	2 Aug 2007 08:51:12 -
@@ -457,7 +457,6 @@ B-1B set file.
 nasal
 	b1b
 		fileAircraft/B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas/file
-		scriptinit_b1b();/script
 	/b1b
 	b1b-fuel
 		modulefuel-aar/module
Index: Nasal/b1b.nas
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.3 b1b.nas
--- Nasal/b1b.nas	1 Aug 2007 16:22:48 -	1.3
+++ Nasal/b1b.nas	2 Aug 2007 08:51:12 -
@@ -1,16 +1,14 @@
+setlistener(/sim/signals/fdm-initialized, func {
+	init_b1b();
+});
+
 init_b1b = func {
 setprop(/sim/current-view/field-of-view, 60);
 setprop(/autopilot/settings/target-pitch-deg, 2);
 setprop(controls/switches/terra-report, 0);
-#setprop(/sim/panel-hotspots, 1);
-#setprop(/engines/engine[0]/running, 0);
-#setprop(/engines/engine[1]/running, 0);
-setprop(sim/multiplay/chat_display, 1);
-setprop(sim/user/callsign, 'B-ONE');
-#setprop(/consumables/fuel/tank[4]/level-gal_us, 1000);
+setprop(/sim/panel-hotspots, 1);
 #fuel_syst();
-settimer(eng_state, 1);
-
+settimer(eng_state, 3);
 print (B-1B warming up!);
 }
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2

2007-08-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Markus Zojer -- Wednesday 01 August 2007:
 That should be all, hopefully everything works now.

No, doesn't:

  Nasal runtime error: setprop() value is not string or number
at $FG_ROOT/Aircraft/B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas, line 359

That's because init_b1b() is called with settimer(..., 0) and not
with setlistener(/sim/signals/fdm-initialized, ...);


And then there's this bug:

  setprop(sim/user/callsign, 'B-ONE');

The callsign is something that the *user* chooses, and not something
that the aircraft may set, let alone: override! Unless you want to
make sure that nobody uses the B-1B on multiplayer, of course ... :-}

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2

2007-08-01 Thread Markus Zojer
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 * Markus Zojer -- Wednesday 01 August 2007:
   
 That should be all, hopefully everything works now.
 

 No, doesn't:

   Nasal runtime error: setprop() value is not string or number
 at $FG_ROOT/Aircraft/B-1B/Nasal/b1b.nas, line 359

 That's because init_b1b() is called with settimer(..., 0) and not
 with setlistener(/sim/signals/fdm-initialized, ...);
   
Thats not beautiful, I agree but worked for me .. will you fix it or 
should I?

 And then there's this bug:

   setprop(sim/user/callsign, 'B-ONE');

 The callsign is something that the *user* chooses, and not something
 that the aircraft may set, let alone: override! Unless you want to
 make sure that nobody uses the B-1B on multiplayer, of course ... :-}
   
Thats strange, it works flawlessly on my machine (on multiplayer), 
although the

sim/user/callsign

doesn't change your multiplayer callsign but the callsign ATC addresses 
to you, normally Golf Foxtrot Sierra.

M.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2

2007-08-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Markus Zojer -- Wednesday 01 August 2007:
 Melchior FRANZ wrote:
  That's because init_b1b() is called with settimer(..., 0) and not
  with setlistener(/sim/signals/fdm-initialized, ...);

 Thats not beautiful, I agree but worked for me ..

It's one of the bugs that depend on installation and setup -- on the
number of active subsystems, workload for the other threads, etc.



 will you fix it or should I?

I can try.   (Our CVS server doesn't always allow it, as it sets
the committer of a dir as its owner ...)



  And then there's this bug:
 
setprop(sim/user/callsign, 'B-ONE');

 although the
 
 sim/user/callsign
 
 doesn't change your multiplayer callsign but the callsign ATC addresses 
 to you, normally Golf Foxtrot Sierra.

OK, whatever it changes: it's a bug. The property dir is called /sim/*USER*/
for a reason. It's user stuff, not aircraft stuff. I for one have this
call sign set in my $FG_HOME/preferences.xml, and I don't see why any
aircraft should override my personal choice.

This looks like a bug, too:  setprop(sim/multiplay/chat_display, 1);
(although I haven't seen any effect). No aircraft should mess with *my*
chat features. That's overstepping its competence. It's an aircraft.
Nothing more, nothing less.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2

2007-08-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 01 August 2007:
 This looks like a bug, too:  setprop(sim/multiplay/chat_display, 1);
 (although I haven't seen any effect).

OK, I found out. The property got renamed to /sim/multiplay/chat-display
and is now saved to autosave.xml. So you can leave that setprop() in.
It won't do anything, anyway.  ;-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1b update nr2

2007-08-01 Thread Markus Zojer
Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 OK, whatever it changes: it's a bug. The property dir is called /sim/*USER*/
 for a reason. It's user stuff, not aircraft stuff. I for one have this
 call sign set in my $FG_HOME/preferences.xml, and I don't see why any
 aircraft should override my personal choice.
   
Ok, you got a point there, it just annoyed me to read that GFS again and 
again, maybe we should encourage the users to alter it.

 This looks like a bug, too:  setprop(sim/multiplay/chat_display, 1);
 (although I haven't seen any effect). No aircraft should mess with *my*
 chat features. That's overstepping its competence. It's an aircraft.
 Nothing more, nothing less.

 m.

   
Hmm, ok I get that, the problem is that chat was disabled by default and 
a lot of users weren't aware of that, so when there is human ATC on 
multiplayer, you have some chaos by some following orders and others 
don't because they can't read the massages. You can call that realism, 
and you are not wrong here ;-)

Oh yes and Curtis thanks for adding, was my first diff file - I prefer 
normal files too  :-)

g,
Markus
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