Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Hello, Here an update of SR71-BlackBird The full Package is there http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz And the diff package is there http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird-2007-06-19.diff.tar.gz some new snapshot http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic11.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic13.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic14.jpg Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Fri 15 June 2007 03:35, Jon S. Berndt wrote: I don't mean that is right, i only mean we have a lot of work to do before to get the right FDM. Thanks for your feed back. -- Gérard Bingo. SR-71 technical data for simulation: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20020057965_2002092400 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19800017829_1980017829 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19980217098_1998361052 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2064011_287962 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780004157_1978004157 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780013217_1978013217 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19860021266_1986021266 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970026105_1997043536 . pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2052206_270615 . pdf SR-71 images at Dryden Flight Research Center: http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/SR-71/ This ought to keep you busy for the next two years. :-) Jon Jon, Many thanks, But 404: Page Not Found probably due the recent reorganisation of their huge database, anyhow these documents should exist I will look for it. I new the photo gallery link which is great Cheers -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Friday 15 June 2007 11:40, gh.robin wrote: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2052206_2706 15 . pdf But 404: Page Not Found probably due the recent reorganisation of their huge database, anyhow these documents should exist They do - you just need to reassemble the links which were wrapped and broken. Cheers, AJ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Jon, Many thanks, But 404: Page Not Found Gérard Make sure that the entire link is on one line - the link needs to end with .pdf. That had been split off in your reply. I wonder if that was the problem? These links do work: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20020057965_2002092400. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19800017829_1980017829. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19980217098_1998361052. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2064011_287962. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780004157_978004157.p df http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780013217_978013217.p df http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19860021266_1986021266. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970026105_1997043536. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2052206_270615. pdf SR-71 images at Dryden Flight Research Center: http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/SR-71/ This ought to keep you busy for the next two years. :-) Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Fri 15 June 2007 12:47, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Jon, Many thanks, But 404: Page Not Found Gérard Make sure that the entire link is on one line - the link needs to end with .pdf. That had been split off in your reply. I wonder if that was the problem? These links do work: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20020057965_2002092400 . pdf Jon Jon, right, i did not pay attention to it. Yes you are right, you have found, for me, enough to keep me busy for the next 2 years, and enough to spend the evening , instead of watching the TV :) Thanks -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Hello, everybody those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. They were built mainly to answer some friends request. I am going to make these aircraft to be GPL, and FG 0.9.11 and FG OSG cvs flyable. They will be delivered i hpe during the next 4 months. The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz some snapshot http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic3.jpg Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01, gh.robin wrote: Hello, everybody those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. They were built mainly to answer some friends request. I am going to make these aircraft to be GPL, and FG 0.9.11 and FG OSG cvs flyable. They will be delivered i hpe during the next 4 months. The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz some snapshot http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic3.jpg Regards Hi Gerard, the SR-71 model looks as though it has some nice detail in it but I can't see it clearly in the screen shots. I'd suggest adding some 'shininess' to the material (that's what AC3D calls that particular material parameter although to my mind it is more of a specular high-light quality). Also, did you know that the SR-71, despite it's 'Blackbird' moniker is actually a very dark grey-blue in colour? It's tricky doing 'black' 3d computer stuff because nothing is actually 100% black in real life but in a computer simulation, if you use 0 0 0 rgb black you'll get 0 0 0 rgb black and the result will be a silhouette. LeeE - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thu 14 June 2007 13:40, leee wrote: http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic3.jpg Regards Hi Gerard, the SR-71 model looks as though it has some nice detail in it but I can't see it clearly in the screen shots. I'd suggest adding some 'shininess' to the material (that's what AC3D calls that particular material parameter although to my mind it is more of a specular high-light quality). Also, did you know that the SR-71, despite it's 'Blackbird' moniker is actually a very dark grey-blue in colour? It's tricky doing 'black' 3d computer stuff because nothing is actually 100% black in real life but in a computer simulation, if you use 0 0 0 rgb black you'll get 0 0 0 rgb black and the result will be a silhouette. LeeE Hello Lee, I fully agree with you, because the texture is black the AC is black, i have a lot of work to do, mainly some new textures (that one is 3 years old). In addition to: the main updates will be the addition AAR probe, the engine statoreactor effect, and the chute. and certainly to continue on with the instruments. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01, gh.robin wrote: The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Looks nice from the pictures, but we're missing a file in CVS; It apparently relies on Aircraft/F-8E/Instruments/Temoin-BasePt.xml Cheers, AJ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Martin Spott wrote: Hi Gerard, gh.robin wrote: The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Heh, what a nice addition ! I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see from the CVS changelog). I propose to make generics out of these instruments that are being used in more than one aircraft - not just in the SR-71 but in several other aircraft as well Anyone wanting to fly it may well find this site rather useful: http://www.sr-71.org/ This section in particular: http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/ -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Hi Gerard, gh.robin wrote: The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Heh, what a nice addition ! I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see from the CVS changelog). I propose to make generics out of these instruments that are being used in more than one aircraft - not just in the SR-71 but in several other aircraft as well Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
That's a very well done model. Not that this would surprise me, you've always been one of the most talented modelers. (Which is one of the reasons why I was unhappy about past events. But those are no longer relevant.) * gh.robin -- Thursday 14 June 2007: those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model [...] Here's a problem though: this page says Under no circumstances may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site. Of course, for us only the license counts. Your statement for the (very nice) Noratlas said We agree to release this aircraft, Noratlas Nord-2502 and family serie 2501, 2504 (was a french air navy aircraft), 2508, under the GPL for inclusion into the FlightGear CVS base package - with all the pros and cons that might result from this. So, was this statement only for the Noratlas, or all contributions by you that you offer under the GPL? But what's with the under no circumstances thing from your homepage then? You know that the GPL explicitly allows selling this stuff? It's, of course, allowed under the GPL to upload it to payware sites, too, as long as they respect the GPL. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thu 14 June 2007 14:52, Martin Spott wrote: Hi Gerard, gh.robin wrote: The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Heh, what a nice addition ! I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see from the CVS changelog). I propose to make generics out of these instruments that are being used in more than one aircraft - not just in the SR-71 but in several other aircraft as well Cheers, Martin. Thanks my apologize for the mistake. The target is to have customised instruments, however i can look at which instruments could be useful for , and committed as generic ones. Regards. -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thu 14 June 2007 15:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: That's a very well done model. Not that this would surprise me, you've always been one of the most talented modelers. (Which is one of the reasons why I was unhappy about past events. But those are no longer relevant.) * gh.robin -- Thursday 14 June 2007: those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model [...] Here's a problem though: this page says Under no circumstances may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site. Of course, for us only the license counts. Your statement for the (very nice) Noratlas said We agree to release this aircraft, Noratlas Nord-2502 and family serie 2501, 2504 (was a french air navy aircraft), 2508, under the GPL for inclusion into the FlightGear CVS base package - with all the pros and cons that might result from this. So, was this statement only for the Noratlas, or all contributions by you that you offer under the GPL? But what's with the under no circumstances thing from your homepage then? You know that the GPL explicitly allows selling this stuff? It's, of course, allowed under the GPL to upload it to payware sites, too, as long as they respect the GPL. m. I don't understand YOUR problem. -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
* gh.robin -- Thursday 14 June 2007: On Thu 14 June 2007 15:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: [http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/] Here's a problem though: this page says Under no circumstances may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site. I don't understand YOUR problem. OK, let me explain: This license restriction in big red letters on your page with GPL-licensed aircraft makes very obvious that your interpretation of the GPL doesn't exactly match the FSF's (Free Software Foundation's) interpretation of it. For us and everyone else the latter is binding. And you and the other FlightGear developers should be aware of that, so that we all don't run into surprises later. (You know what I mean.) And it's not really a problem for me personally. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
gh.robin wrote: On Thu 14 June 2007 14:52, Martin Spott wrote: I propose to make generics out of these instruments that are being used in more than one aircraft - not just in the SR-71 but in several other aircraft as well The target is to have customised instruments, however i can look at which instruments could be useful for , and committed as generic ones. Certainly - wherever an instrument is unique to a single aircraft, then it should be handled as such. On the other hand, references to other aircraft clearly show that the instrument is not _that_ unique :-) My proposal does not target only at the Blackbird, instead there are numerous places where aircraft designers link to other aircraft while creating a 'generic' instrument would make much more sense. Last but not least this would make it easier to resolve conflicts when people download a single aircraft that is not part of the base package distribution. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Stefan Seifert wrote: His problem is, that the models are described as being GPL-licensed, but the website states, that it's forbidden to sell these files or upload them to a paysite, which would be allowed by the GPL. Well, Gerard has been posting the single link to the Blackbird on this list and he included the standard GPL COPYING file with the aircraft. After being a bit pedantic on this topic earlier this month I'm convinced we managed to resolve the given issue, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Hi Gérard, On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01:25 gh.robin wrote: Hello, everybody those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. They were built mainly to answer some friends request. I am going to make these aircraft to be GPL, and FG 0.9.11 and FG OSG cvs flyable. They will be delivered i hpe during the next 4 months. The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz Using OSG cvs version, updated yesterday. I got from CVS - great model, but I seem to have an issue. After taking off, I can fly with full throttle and slowly climb - but if I knock back throttle I seem to loose everything, and the aircraft just slows down and gently drops to earth in the horizontal postion (i.e. it doesn't crash, just floats down like a feather). I see this in the console: Trim Failed Trim Results: Angle of Attack: 7.50 wdot: 3.21e+01 Tolerance: 1e-03 Failed Throttle: 0.50 udot: 3.05e+00 Tolerance: 1e-03 Failed Pitch Trim: 0.00 qdot: 4.37e-03 Tolerance: 1e-04 Failed Failed to get Mach number for given Vc and altitude, Vc unchanged. Please mail the set of initial conditions used to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Model Author: Author Name Creation Date: 2005-24-06 Version: 0.1 Description: Models a SR-71 Failed to get Mach number for given Vc and altitude, Vc unchanged. Please mail the set of initial conditions used to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Nick - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thu 14 June 2007 19:37, Nick Warne wrote: Hi Gérard, On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01:25 gh.robin wrote: Hello, everybody those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. They were built mainly to answer some friends request. I am going to make these aircraft to be GPL, and FG 0.9.11 and FG OSG cvs flyable. They will be delivered i hpe during the next 4 months. The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz Using OSG cvs version, updated yesterday. I got from CVS - great model, but I seem to have an issue. After taking off, I can fly with full throttle and slowly climb - but if I knock back throttle I seem to loose everything, and the aircraft just slows down and gently drops to earth in the horizontal postion (i.e. it doesn't crash, just floats down like a feather). I see this in the console: Trim Failed Trim Results: Angle of Attack: 7.50 wdot: 3.21e+01 Tolerance: 1e-03 Failed Throttle: 0.50 udot: 3.05e+00 Tolerance: 1e-03 Failed Pitch Trim: 0.00 qdot: 4.37e-03 Tolerance: 1e-04 Failed Failed to get Mach number for given Vc and altitude, Vc unchanged. Please mail the set of initial conditions used to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Model Author: Author Name Creation Date: 2005-24-06 Version: 0.1 Description: Models a SR-71 Failed to get Mach number for given Vc and altitude, Vc unchanged. Please mail the set of initial conditions used to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Nick Nick, Yes i noticed that problem, with that FDM the power after take off (i tested it on a low altitude KSFO) at 2 deg pitch must not be less than 80% of rpm and must be less than 300 kts. Only full throttle and from 15 to 20 deg pitch gives the right power to get altitude, 1 ft and more. I don't mean that is right, i only mean we have a lot of work to do before to get the right FDM. Thanks for your feed back. -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
Okay, now someone needs to refuel behind it. I understand the tanker is firewalled, and the SR-71 is on the verge of stalling. Bill - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
On Thu 14 June 2007 20:59, Bill Galbraith wrote: Okay, now someone needs to refuel behind it. I understand the tanker is firewalled, and the SR-71 is on the verge of stalling. Bill Bill, Yes, you just put the finger where the pain is the most important -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71
I don't mean that is right, i only mean we have a lot of work to do before to get the right FDM. Thanks for your feed back. -- Gérard Bingo. SR-71 technical data for simulation: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20020057965_2002092400. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19800017829_1980017829. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19980217098_1998361052. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2064011_287962. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780004157_1978004157. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19780013217_1978013217. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19860021266_1986021266. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970026105_1997043536. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/2052206_270615. pdf SR-71 images at Dryden Flight Research Center: http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/SR-71/ This ought to keep you busy for the next two years. :-) Jon -- Jon S. Berndt Development Coordinator JSBSim Project www.JSBSim.org attachment: winmail.dat- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
