Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
Hi, gh.robin schrieb am 15.07.2007 21:07: > Yes and Lag is not a problem at all, because the problem is very simple. > > B52/X15 are first linked together , and only one pilot the B52 pilot is " > driving" > the other pilot (X15 pilot) is only an observer, in a passive mode. > > There is not any problem with synchronization or anything else. > > Only on decision, let's say the B52 pilot decision, the X15 is freed, so, > the > X15 pilot can fly freely, if it is lag, it does not matter. > Remember it was not said the X15 should have to link again to the B52. > > We are not talking about space sci-fi star ship mothership and shuttle > (startrek) > > To conclude, it is not the carrier processing and it is not the Aerotow > processing. > > Cheers Correct, you only need to add the X15 to the B52 FDM and take the B52 position/orientation for the X15 up to the release. The X15 could be released by both aircrafts, like in the protocol used by aerotow. Maik - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Sun 15 July 2007 17:20, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > AnMaster wrote: > > Mike Schuh wrote: > >> How are FG aircraft "connected" to an aircraft carrier? Could the same > >> technique be used for "airborne carriers"? > > > > Well for AI carriers that would work, note that there are no MP carriers. > > There lag would be an issue (as far as I understand it). > > Lag should not be much of a problem for MP aircraft carriers. > > I imagine the mass of an AC carrier is so much larger than the mass of > carrier AC that one can probably neglect the forces the aircraft exerts > on the carrier. So you only need to handle the forces the carrier exerts > on the aircraft. That gets rid of the feedback loop which leads to those > nasty oscillation problem. > > As to the problem of the aircraft becoming aware of changed forces from > the carrier only with a certain lag, i guess the mass of the carrier is > so large that it cannot change its state of movement fast enough for a > few hundred milliseconds to be of much consequence. > > All in all, seaborne aircraft carriers should be feasible for FG. > > For airborne carriers, the mass ratios are probably more critical, and > thus will need more thorough consideration with respect to above arguments. > Yes and Lag is not a problem at all, because the problem is very simple. B52/X15 are first linked together , and only one pilot the B52 pilot is " driving" the other pilot (X15 pilot) is only an observer, in a passive mode. There is not any problem with synchronization or anything else. Only on decision, let's say the B52 pilot decision, the X15 is freed, so, the X15 pilot can fly freely, if it is lag, it does not matter. Remember it was not said the X15 should have to link again to the B52. We are not talking about space sci-fi star ship mothership and shuttle (startrek) To conclude, it is not the carrier processing and it is not the Aerotow processing. Cheers -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Sun 15 July 2007 14:53, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * gh.robin -- Friday 13 July 2007: > > Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. > > Committed, thanks. (I picked up the newer version that you posted > on the IRC channel.) > > m. > > Melchior, thanks I did nor gave any diff files because of a lot of changes, new module organisation (to answer the two variant A and B) , and mainly files which are now not longer in use. It must be deleted: => file data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/splash2-BB.rgb => file data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/splash3-BB.rgb => file data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/splash-BB.rgb => file data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/Models/BlackBird-model.xml => file data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/Models/SR71-blackbird.ac => directory data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/Models/Texture-SR71 Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
AnMaster wrote: > Mike Schuh wrote: >> How are FG aircraft "connected" to an aircraft carrier? Could the same >> technique be used for "airborne carriers"? > > Well for AI carriers that would work, note that there are no MP carriers. > There lag would be an issue (as far as I understand it). Lag should not be much of a problem for MP aircraft carriers. I imagine the mass of an AC carrier is so much larger than the mass of carrier AC that one can probably neglect the forces the aircraft exerts on the carrier. So you only need to handle the forces the carrier exerts on the aircraft. That gets rid of the feedback loop which leads to those nasty oscillation problem. As to the problem of the aircraft becoming aware of changed forces from the carrier only with a certain lag, i guess the mass of the carrier is so large that it cannot change its state of movement fast enough for a few hundred milliseconds to be of much consequence. All in all, seaborne aircraft carriers should be feasible for FG. For airborne carriers, the mass ratios are probably more critical, and thus will need more thorough consideration with respect to above arguments. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
* gh.robin -- Friday 13 July 2007: > Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. Committed, thanks. (I picked up the newer version that you posted on the IRC channel.) m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Sat 14 July 2007 15:02, gh.robin wrote: > > i feel only one problem , how to attach dynamically two FDM to only one > Aircraft. > > Regards Or to encapsulate two sub-FDM into one FDM :) -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Sat 14 July 2007 05:20, Jon S Berndt wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:52:20 +0200 > > >> > On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: > >> >> On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> SNIP > >> > >> >> While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work > >> > >>great > >> > >> >> too! > >> >> > >> >> :p > >> >> > >> >> To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed > >> SNIP > >> > > >> > You are right > >> > it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, > >> > or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) > >> > that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother > >> > >>and > >> > >> > Child flying first together , and then flying separately. > >> SNIP > > I will better like a solution, for instance "external forces" > >features. > > I guess that JSBsim could in the future answer it. > > > > Regards > > > > -- > > Gérard > > Dave culp at one time was working on an AI carrier feature for the > X-15. Theoretically, this should be possible, but as usual, the devil > is in the details! > > Jon > Hello Jon, If we don't want to use MP , another way could be, => to be able to have two FDM for the same Aircraft, these FDM being sequentially in use one or the other on request. Animation and modeling being not a problem. With the following scenario: First the X15 has the B52 FDM , the model represents B52 + X15 attached together and the pilot place is the B52 cockpit, Second,when at the right altitude and right speed, the model is the X15 only (we could animate , translate the B52 going far away) the X15 takes his own FDM , the pilot place is then the X15 cockpit The cockpit place is solved with the view management. i feel only one problem , how to attach dynamically two FDM to only one Aircraft. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On 7/13/07, Jon S Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:52:20 +0200 > "gh.robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri 13 July 2007 18:32, AnMaster wrote: > >> gh.robin wrote: > >> > On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: > >> >> On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> SNIP > >> > >> >> While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work > >>great > >> >> too! > >> >> > >> >> :p > >> >> > >> >> To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed > >>to get > >> >> the D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for > >>pickup! > >> >> > >> >> Cheers!! > >> > > >> > You are right > >> > it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, > >> > or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) > >> > that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother > >>and > >> > Child flying first together , and then flying separately. > >> > >> I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, > >>lag. > >> Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you > >>do for > >> some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) > >> > >> AnMaster > >> > > I will better like a solution, for instance "external forces" > >features. > > I guess that JSBsim could in the future answer it. > > > > Regards > > > > -- > > Gérard > Videos of successful and an unsuccesful D-21 launch if you haven't already seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYsMli570K8&mode=related&search= - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:52:20 +0200 "gh.robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri 13 July 2007 18:32, AnMaster wrote: >> gh.robin wrote: >> > On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: >> >> On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> SNIP >> >> >> While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work >>great >> >> too! >> >> >> >> :p >> >> >> >> To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed >>to get >> >> the D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for >>pickup! >> >> >> >> Cheers!! >> > >> > You are right >> > it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, >> > or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) >> > that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother >>and >> > Child flying first together , and then flying separately. >> >> I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, >>lag. >> Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you >>do for >> some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) >> >> AnMaster >> > I will better like a solution, for instance "external forces" >features. > I guess that JSBsim could in the future answer it. > > Regards > > -- > Gérard Dave culp at one time was working on an AI carrier feature for the X-15. Theoretically, this should be possible, but as usual, the devil is in the details! Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mike Schuh wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, AnMaster wrote: > >> gh.robin wrote: >>> You are right >>> it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, >>> or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) >>> that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother and Child >>> flying first together , and then flying separately. >> I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, lag. >> Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you do for >> some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) > > How are FG aircraft "connected" to an aircraft carrier? Could the same > technique be used for "airborne carriers"? Well for AI carriers that would work, note that there are no MP carriers. There lag would be an issue (as far as I understand it). Regards, AnMaster -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGl7Z6WmK6ng/aMNkRClTwAKDAjv2J3GYOyrwKQ+Q90OoUOwMfhQCgpQ4N 8SExyFhpKxf/Dl7c1RYHiiM= =/Y/H -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, AnMaster wrote: >gh.robin wrote: >> >> You are right >> it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, >> or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) >> that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother and Child >> flying first together , and then flying separately. > >I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, lag. >Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you do for >some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) How are FG aircraft "connected" to an aircraft carrier? Could the same technique be used for "airborne carriers"? -- Mike Schuh - Seattle, Washington USA http://www.farmdale.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri 13 July 2007 18:32, AnMaster wrote: > gh.robin wrote: > > On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: > >> On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SNIP > > >> While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work great > >> too! > >> > >> :p > >> > >> To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed to get > >> the D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for pickup! > >> > >> Cheers!! > > > > You are right > > it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, > > or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) > > that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother and > > Child flying first together , and then flying separately. > > I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, lag. > Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you do for > some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) > > AnMaster > I will better like a solution, for instance "external forces" features. I guess that JSBsim could in the future answer it. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 gh.robin wrote: > On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: >> On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP >> While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work great too! >> >> :p >> >> To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed to get the >> D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for pickup! >> >> Cheers!! > > You are right > it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, > or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) > that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother and Child > flying first together , and then flying separately. I strongly suspect you would get the same problem as with areotow, lag. Areotow "solves" that by making the tow wire elastic. What would you do for some aircraft that is carried? Elastic sling? ;) AnMaster -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGl6kQWmK6ng/aMNkRCk5kAKC/VXniY6hAGRNRZjs8ve2Kafv31ACgn1BE KR81H3Z5s1EKg7vAVKl7ltA= =7pmF -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri 13 July 2007 01:28, bass pumped wrote: > On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > > > > the full package is available here (5 mo) > > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz > > > > Regads > > > > -- > > Gérard > > > > > > > SNIP > While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work great too! > > :p > > To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed to get the > D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for pickup! > > Cheers!! You are right it would a good idea, and why no a bell-X1 with the B-29, or the B52 and X15 (we have both into FG) that would be a challenge to have within MP both Aircrafts Mother and Child flying first together , and then flying separately. Cheers -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri 13 July 2007 13:19, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * gh.robin -- Friday 13 July 2007: > > i guess the space key change which is discussed here will not modify > > the process). > > Didn't look at the code, but I doubt it. If you redefine the SPACE > key, then you also redefine the PTT function. Your aircraft works > as you intended, with your SPACE-key override -- there will just be > no PTT functionality. In the long run this should, of course, be > avoided. But for now it doesn't really matter. > > m. > > In that case , i don't redefine the space key , i (we) only use it in the generic way and i guess "s" will replace space without any diff , so, only the Blackbird help will be modified, nothing else :). -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
* gh.robin -- Friday 13 July 2007: > i guess the space key change which is discussed here will not modify > the process). Didn't look at the code, but I doubt it. If you redefine the SPACE key, then you also redefine the PTT function. Your aircraft works as you intended, with your SPACE-key override -- there will just be no PTT functionality. In the long run this should, of course, be avoided. But for now it doesn't really matter. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On Fri 13 July 2007 01:17, gh.robin wrote: > Hello, > > the full package is available here (5 mo) > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz > > Regads In addition to, if you want to climb at the best rate and "touch" quickly 85000 ft, after take off engage autopilot with Pitch = 8 and ... nine minutes later you are at 85000 ft. Sorry the sightseeing is not nice. http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic23.jpg Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. That package contains the two variants -SR71-A which was the common aircraft with pilot and RSO ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-A http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic22.jpg -SR71-B which was the training aircraft with instructor pilot and student pilot. ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-B http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic20.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic21.jpg You will notice (i hope) an improvement about panels and cockpits. Read carefully the instructions to start the engines (i guess the space key change which is discussed here will not modify the process). Because of the large difference with the previous release (a lot of new files, and a lot of files which must be removed) i have only done the full package available. If necessary i can build the package with diff files. The instrument/altitude patch ( altitude to 10 ft) from John Denker has not been committed (for some reasons ?), so, the trick i had included in the previous Blackbird remain in place (only the VSI does not work above 61000). Remember the cruise altitude of Blackbird was 85000 ft (the model can do it) the full package is available here (5 mo) http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz Regads -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel The screenshots look great!! While you are it... maybe a M-21 and launchable D-21 might work great too! :p To be really cool would be to then do what the Air Force failed to get the D21 to do... run a recc mission and then splash down for pickup! Cheers!! - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B
Hello, Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. That package contains the two variants -SR71-A which was the common aircraft with pilot and RSO ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-A http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic22.jpg -SR71-B which was the training aircraft with instructor pilot and student pilot. ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-B http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic20.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic21.jpg You will notice (i hope) an improvement about panels and cockpits. Read carefully the instructions to start the engines (i guess the space key change which is discussed here will not modify the process). Because of the large difference with the previous release (a lot of new files, and a lot of files which must be removed) i have only done the full package available. If necessary i can build the package with diff files. The instrument/altitude patch ( altitude to 10 ft) from John Denker has not been committed (for some reasons ?), so, the trick i had included in the previous Blackbird remain in place (only the VSI does not work above 61000). Remember the cruise altitude of Blackbird was 85000 ft (the model can do it) the full package is available here (5 mo) http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz Regads -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
