Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-17 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Gijs de Rooy  wrote:
 Hi Stuart,

 thanks for the improvements! Checking the diff I do wonder if you removed
 the Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel (rudder) pedals line on
 purpose? Vivian added this one in March...

 https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/9dcb78c2248

Good spot.  That was a mistake.  Now corrected.

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-15 Thread Renk Thorsten
 On a related note there's also the question of the mouse modes to
 consider.  I no-longer use the old-style mouse modes, instead using
 the right-click-to-pan-view mode instead.  Should that be available
 through the GUI (in which case I've got to re-write various parts of
 The Manua)

I'm a mouse only pilot, and I'm still using the old mode for two reasons: 
First, the new mode requires tab to change mode, which you need to do 
frequently without a joystick, and that key is mapped on some planes (the ufo 
or the Lightning come to my mind) to other functions which leads to trouble. 

Second (and that's less relevant) - old mode is quite a deep habit, and if I 
just fall back to what I was used to while in a helicopter, I end up being so 
dead and crashed.

I think in general the new style is superior, especially if you're a joystick 
user - so I would tend to make the new behaviour default, I think mouse-only 
control is a minority position and doesn't need to be default as long as we 
keep the old style optionally.

* Thorsten
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-15 Thread James Turner

On 15 Jul 2013, at 00:45, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net wrote:

 POI on the map are disabled in Windows (well they are here). Otherwise quite
 an impressive list.

That's because of strange performance problems loading the file on Windows, 
which someone on a Windows box needs to investigate if they want this feature 
enabled. There's a one-line #ifdef to enable if you wish to experiment.

Regards,
James

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-15 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Stuart,

thanks for the improvements! Checking the diff I do wonder if you removed 
the Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel (rudder) pedals line on
purpose? Vivian added this one in March...

https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/9dcb78c2248 

Cheers,
Gijs
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[Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All,

I've just taken a trawl through the git logs to find the major
enhancements from the last 6 months, the results of which are now in
the Changelog:

http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.12

Comments welcome, particularly on what should be mentioned in the
highlights section at the end of the first paragraph:

The FlightGear development team is happy to announce the v2.12
release of FlightGear, the free, open-source flight simulator. This
new version contains many exciting new features, enhancements and
bugfixes. Highlights in this release include improved usability,
continued development of the Canvas rendering toolkit, and improved
scenery rendering. 

I'd also like suggestions of other new or majorly improved aircraft
that have had particular updates over the last 6 months.

I'm also not sure whether or not we should include tooltips in the
feature list.  They are currently switched off by default in
preferences.xml and can only be switched on from within the Debug
menu. James - are they now mature enough that we should switched them
on by default?

On a related note there's also the question of the mouse modes to
consider.  I no-longer use the old-style mouse modes, instead using
the right-click-to-pan-view mode instead.  Should that be available
through the GUI (in which case I've got to re-write various parts of
The Manua)

Thanks,

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Stuart

 Sent: 14 July 2013 23:09
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12
 
 Hi All,
 
 I've just taken a trawl through the git logs to find the major
enhancements
 from the last 6 months, the results of which are now in the Changelog:
 
 http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.12
 
 Comments welcome, particularly on what should be mentioned in the
 highlights section at the end of the first paragraph:
 
 The FlightGear development team is happy to announce the v2.12 release
 of FlightGear, the free, open-source flight simulator. This new version
 contains many exciting new features, enhancements and bugfixes. Highlights
 in this release include improved usability, continued development of the
 Canvas rendering toolkit, and improved scenery rendering. 
 
 I'd also like suggestions of other new or majorly improved aircraft that
have
 had particular updates over the last 6 months.
 
 I'm also not sure whether or not we should include tooltips in the feature
list.
 They are currently switched off by default in preferences.xml and can only
 be switched on from within the Debug menu. James - are they now mature
 enough that we should switched them on by default?
 
 On a related note there's also the question of the mouse modes to
consider.
 I no-longer use the old-style mouse modes, instead using the
right-click-to-
 pan-view mode instead.  Should that be available through the GUI (in which
 case I've got to re-write various parts of The Manua)


POI on the map are disabled in Windows (well they are here). Otherwise quite
an impressive list.

Vivian


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