Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Please check the changelog at http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.8.0
 and make sure every new feature is noted at a prominent place there.

Looking at the section on instruments, there's the following statement:

There's a new fully scriptable 2D rendering system supported for
creating instruments, the so called [[Canvas]] which allows you to
create fully dynamic cockpit instruments and HUDs, even by loading and
drawing vector images. This can be used to create CDUs/MCDUs for FMC,
complex glass cockpit avionics (MFDs, EICAS etc) and any other glass
instruments that could previously only be created in C++ space. All of
this has now become possible just by using [[Nasal]] scripting,
without having to rebuild FlightGear.

Can someone more familiar with Canvas confirm how much of this
statement is true for the 2.8.0 release?  For example, I'm pretty sure
that the Nasal interface support has only just been added to
data/master.

Perhaps a better statement would be

Canvas - a flexible, 2D rendering system designed for complex
instruments such as CDUs, MFDs, EICAS and other glass cockpit
interfaces.

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Stuart,

is 'improved terrain rendering' supposed to replace 
'An improved simulation of atmospheric light scattering with terrain haze for 
the classical renderer.' ?

https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/3565b9e4046b00880d67afabea6d8119b7cd80ab

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Hi Stuart,

 is 'improved terrain rendering' supposed to replace
 'An improved simulation of atmospheric light scattering with terrain haze for 
 the classical renderer.' ?

 https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/3565b9e4046b00880d67afabea6d8119b7cd80ab

improved terrain rendering is a general statement covering
- object masks
- random buildings
- regional textures

As with the 2.6.0 release, the first couple of paragraphs are used as
the release announcement, as well as the preface to the change log.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
De: Stuart Buchanan
 
 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
  Hi Stuart,
 
  is 'improved terrain rendering' supposed to replace
  'An improved simulation of atmospheric light scattering with
  terrain haze for the classical renderer.' ?
 
  https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/3565b9e4046b00880d67afabea6d8119b7cd80ab
 
 improved terrain rendering is a general statement covering
 - object masks
 - random buildings
 - regional textures
 
 As with the 2.6.0 release, the first couple of paragraphs are used as
 the release announcement, as well as the preface to the change log.

So why removing this: 'An improved simulation of atmospheric light scattering 
with
terrain haze for the classical renderer.' ?

Do I missed something ?

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 So why removing this: 'An improved simulation of atmospheric light scattering 
 with
 terrain haze for the classical renderer.' ?

That was a mistake on my part.  Sorry.  I've put a (modified)
statement back.  I've removed the reference to the classic renderer
as it won't mean much to most people.

I've also put it above the Rembrandt statement, as it's less experimental.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Torsten wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Torsten Dreyer [mailto:tors...@t3r.de]
 Sent: 13 August 2012 20:32
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 we are very close to our release date, just a few days left until we
hopefully
 ship our latest-and-greates-ever FlightGear version.
 
 Please check the changelog at http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.8.0
 and make sure every new feature is noted at a prominent place there.
 
 These are not only core features but also new/updated aircraft, scenery
 improvements, usability changes - whatever made FlightGear better since
 the last release.
 
 The changelog is often copied by online media and might help to attract
new
 user, so please help creating a persuasive advertising for FlightGear
2.8.0!
 

My reaction was:  is that all?.  I haven't been following developments all
that closely over the past few months as trying to keep up with Fred has
taken much of my time, so perhaps it is. Surprised me though.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt,

 

I'm sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I'll see what I can
come up with.

 

Vivian

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 August 2012 15:47
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG
new website :

http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

 

How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
screenshot?

 

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Vivian Meazza
vivian.mea...@lineone.netwrote:

 Curt,

 ** **

 I’m sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I’ll see what I
 can come up with.

 ** **

 Vivian


Hi Vivian,

I'd love to have a couple nice Vinson shots -- at least one with shadows,
and at least one with the new deck lighting.  I keep wanting to make some
new carrier ops videos -- watching the aircraft pass through the deck
lights and get lighter/darker is subtle and happens quickly, but is pretty
cool.  Also watching the shadow on landing is also pretty cool, as is
seeing the spinning radar dish shadows cast across the deck ...

Curt.


 

 ** **

 *From:* Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 14 August 2012 15:47
 *To:* FlightGear developers discussions
 *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 ** **

 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the
 OSG new website :

 http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

 For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

 ** **

 How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
 Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
 screenshot?

 ** **

 Curt.

 -- 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt,

 

Here's a few:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/Vinson

 

Any good? I can soon rattle up a few more.

 

Vivian 

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2012 16:19
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net
wrote:

Curt,

 

I'm sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I'll see what I can
come up with.

 

Vivian

 

Hi Vivian,


I'd love to have a couple nice Vinson shots -- at least one with shadows,
and at least one with the new deck lighting.  I keep wanting to make some
new carrier ops videos -- watching the aircraft pass through the deck lights
and get lighter/darker is subtle and happens quickly, but is pretty cool.
Also watching the shadow on landing is also pretty cool, as is seeing the
spinning radar dish shadows cast across the deck ...

 

Curt.

 

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 August 2012 15:47
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG
new website :

http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

 

How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
screenshot?

 

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Curtis Olson
Oh, that link doesn't reference your name so it doesn't work (I get my own
public folder) :-)

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Vivian Meazza
vivian.mea...@lineone.netwrote:

 Curt,

 ** **

 Here’s a few:

 ** **

 https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/Vinson

 ** **

 Any good? I can soon rattle up a few more.

 ** **

 Vivian 

 ** **

 *From:* Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 15 August 2012 16:19

 *To:* FlightGear developers discussions
 *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 ** **

 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net
 wrote:

 Curt,

  

 I’m sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I’ll see what I
 can come up with.

  

 Vivian

 ** **

 Hi Vivian,


 I'd love to have a couple nice Vinson shots -- at least one with shadows,
 and at least one with the new deck lighting.  I keep wanting to make some
 new carrier ops videos -- watching the aircraft pass through the deck
 lights and get lighter/darker is subtle and happens quickly, but is pretty
 cool.  Also watching the shadow on landing is also pretty cool, as is
 seeing the spinning radar dish shadows cast across the deck ...

 ** **

 Curt.

  

  

 *From:* Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 14 August 2012 15:47
 *To:* FlightGear developers discussions
 *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

  

 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the
 OSG new website :

 http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

 For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

  

 How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
 Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
 screenshot?

  

 Curt.

 -- 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt,

 

Never easy is it? This might work:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/js2hm48d5amsjzy/ediTgCHinD/Vinson

 

Vivian

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2012 16:50
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

Oh, that link doesn't reference your name so it doesn't work (I get my own
public folder) :-)

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net
wrote:

Curt,

 

Here's a few:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/Vinson

 

Any good? I can soon rattle up a few more.

 

Vivian 

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2012 16:19


To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net
wrote:

Curt,

 

I'm sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I'll see what I can
come up with.

 

Vivian

 

Hi Vivian,


I'd love to have a couple nice Vinson shots -- at least one with shadows,
and at least one with the new deck lighting.  I keep wanting to make some
new carrier ops videos -- watching the aircraft pass through the deck lights
and get lighter/darker is subtle and happens quickly, but is pretty cool.
Also watching the shadow on landing is also pretty cool, as is seeing the
spinning radar dish shadows cast across the deck ...

 

Curt.

 

 

From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 August 2012 15:47
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG
new website :

http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

 

How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
screenshot?

 

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Vivian, 

I think Curt has this video in mind : http://youtu.be/I5cqAgOnSxE 

Regards, 
-Fred 

- Mail original -


De: Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net 
À: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Août 2012 18:08:31 
Objet: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0 



Curt, 

Never easy is it? This might work: 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/js2hm48d5amsjzy/ediTgCHinD/Vinson 

Vivian 




From: Curtis Olson [mailto:curtol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2012 16:50 
To: FlightGear developers discussions 
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0 

Oh, that link doesn't reference your name so it doesn't work (I get my own 
public folder) :-) 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Vivian Meazza  vivian.mea...@lineone.net  
wrote: 


Curt, 

Here’s a few: 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/Vinson 

Any good? I can soon rattle up a few more. 

Vivian 




From: Curtis Olson [mailto: curtol...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: 15 August 2012 16:19 



To: FlightGear developers discussions 
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0 



On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Vivian Meazza  vivian.mea...@lineone.net  
wrote: 

blockquote



Curt, 

I’m sure we could do a pretty good screenshot of Vinson. I’ll see what I can 
come up with. 

Vivian 





Hi Vivian, 


I'd love to have a couple nice Vinson shots -- at least one with shadows, and 
at least one with the new deck lighting. I keep wanting to make some new 
carrier ops videos -- watching the aircraft pass through the deck lights and 
get lighter/darker is subtle and happens quickly, but is pretty cool. Also 
watching the shadow on landing is also pretty cool, as is seeing the spinning 
radar dish shadows cast across the deck ... 



Curt. 


blockquote







From: Curtis Olson [mailto: curtol...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: 14 August 2012 15:47 
To: FlightGear developers discussions 
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0 



On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: 

blockquote

By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG new 
website : 

http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots 

For the moment, FG is absent in this page. 
/blockquote




How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The 
Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a 
screenshot? 



Curt. 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-15 Thread geneb
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 Hi Vivian,

 I think Curt has this video in mind : http://youtu.be/I5cqAgOnSxE

That's really cool Fred. :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-14 Thread Frederic Bouvier
By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG new 
website :

http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

For the moment, FG is absent in this page.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the
 OSG new website :

 http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots

 For the moment, FG is absent in this page.


How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The
Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a
screenshot?

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[Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0

2012-08-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi everybody,

we are very close to our release date, just a few days left until we 
hopefully ship our latest-and-greates-ever FlightGear version.

Please check the changelog at http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.8.0 
and make sure every new feature is noted at a prominent place there.

These are not only core features but also new/updated aircraft, scenery 
improvements, usability changes - whatever made FlightGear better since 
the last release.

The changelog is often copied by online media and might help to attract 
new user, so please help creating a persuasive advertising for 
FlightGear 2.8.0!

Thank you

Torsten

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