Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Tat

I downloaded 10.6/7 version and it works fine. Just one small thing I 
noted (because I am on this myself at the moment for FGx): GUI-Help 
(opens in Browser) doesn’t open anything here. But maybe this is not OSX 
only?

Cheers, Yves


Am 19.02.12 08:55, schrieb Tatsuhiro Nishioka:
 Hi,

 I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from:
 http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads
 FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need.

 I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems 
 running the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old 
 MacBook pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs.

 The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build 
 FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, 
 apple gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make 
 FG compatible with 10.7 and 10.5.

 Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving 
 day to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made 
 the Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p

 Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization 
 flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static 
 class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool 
 that I can trust.

 Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the 
 latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's 
 better to have working binary.

 Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users.

 Tat

 ---
 Tatsuhiro Nishioka
 http://macflightgear.sf.net

 On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olsoncurtol...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)

 Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you 
 thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these 
 issues still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't 
 know much about the Mac side of things.

 BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for 
 me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8

 Thanks again,

 Curt.

 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Curt,

 There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
 It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
 So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.

 I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason 
 not to upgrade.

 Tat


 On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:

 Hi Tat,

 Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
 people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but 
 I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to 
 upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?

 Curt.


 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Hi,

 FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 
 for now).

 Please download it from:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/

 Note:
 Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.

 Tat

 ---
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-19 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi Yves,

Though I haven't check the source code deeply, fgfs doesn't seem handling 
--browser-app command-line option properly.

According to the code, its default value for OS X is set to open,  and 
command-line option seems to be set properly.
So I guess the property node (/sim/startup/browser-app) is overwritten by the 
one in preferences.xml.
As a matter of fact, changing line 62 of preferences.xml to the following will 
fix the issue.
browser-app write=nopen %u/browser-app

It doesn't seem OS X specific, so this may happen on Windows as well.
Maybe we should ask some windows users if it works properly (and if 
preferences.xml is modified)

Hope this helps,

Tat

On Feb 20, 2012, at 1:05 AM, HB-GRAL wrote:

 Hi Tat
 
 I downloaded 10.6/7 version and it works fine. Just one small thing I 
 noted (because I am on this myself at the moment for FGx): GUI-Help 
 (opens in Browser) doesn’t open anything here. But maybe this is not OSX 
 only?
 
 Cheers, Yves
 
 
 Am 19.02.12 08:55, schrieb Tatsuhiro Nishioka:
 Hi,
 
 I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from:
 http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads
 FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need.
 
 I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems 
 running the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old 
 MacBook pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs.
 
 The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build 
 FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, 
 apple gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to 
 make FG compatible with 10.7 and 10.5.
 
 Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving 
 day to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made 
 the Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p
 
 Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization 
 flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static 
 class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev 
 tool that I can trust.
 
 Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since 
 the latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), 
 it's better to have working binary.
 
 Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users.
 
 Tat
 
 ---
 Tatsuhiro Nishioka
 http://macflightgear.sf.net
 
 On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olsoncurtol...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)
 
 Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you 
 thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these 
 issues still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't 
 know much about the Mac side of things.
 
 BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for 
 me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Curt.
 
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Curt,
 
 There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
 It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
 So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.
 
 I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some 
 reason not to upgrade.
 
 Tat
 
 
 On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
 
 Hi Tat,
 
 Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
 people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but 
 I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to 
 upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?
 
 Curt.
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 
 for now).
 
 Please download it from:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
 
 Note:
 Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
 
 Tat
 
 ---
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 http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/
 
 
 
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi,

FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for 
now).

Please download it from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/

Note:
Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.

Tat

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Tat,

Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage
people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but
I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to
upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?

Curt.


On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7
 for now).

 Please download it from:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/

 Note:
 Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.

 Tat

 ---
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 http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Curt,

There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.

I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason 
not to upgrade.

Tat


On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:

 Hi Tat,
 
 Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
 people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm 
 not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to 
 OSX 10.6 or newer?
 
 Curt.
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for 
 now).
 
 Please download it from:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
 
 Note:
 Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
 
 Tat
 
 ---
 Tatsuhiro Nishioka
 http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/
 
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)

Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you
thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these
issues still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't
know much about the Mac side of things.

BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for
me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8

Thanks again,

Curt.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Curt,

 There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
 It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
 So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.

 I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some
 reason not to upgrade.

 Tat


 On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:

  Hi Tat,
 
  Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage
 people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but
 I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to
 upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?
 
  Curt.
 
 
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7
 for now).
 
  Please download it from:
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
 
  Note:
  Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
 
  Tat
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.

2012-02-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi,

I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from:
http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads
FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need.

I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems running 
the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old MacBook 
pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs.

The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build 
FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, apple 
gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make FG 
compatible with 10.7 and 10.5.

Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving day 
to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made the 
Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p

Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization 
flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static 
class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool 
that I can trust. 

Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the 
latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's 
better to have working binary.

Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users.

Tat

---
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http://macflightgear.sf.net

On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-)
 
 Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking 
 you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues 
 still pretty unknown?  Again, just asking questions since I don't know much 
 about the Mac side of things.
 
 BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for 
 me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Curt.
 
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Curt,
 
 There's a big hope of 10.5 support.
 It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done).
 So we can encourage people to be patient for a while.
 
 I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason 
 not to upgrade.
 
 Tat
 
 
 On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
 
  Hi Tat,
 
  Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage 
  people to upgrade their software?  On my iMac I think it was free -- but 
  I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to 
  upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer?
 
  Curt.
 
 
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 
  for now).
 
  Please download it from:
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/
 
  Note:
  Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page.
 
  Tat
 
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