Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Hi Tat I downloaded 10.6/7 version and it works fine. Just one small thing I noted (because I am on this myself at the moment for FGx): GUI-Help (opens in Browser) doesn’t open anything here. But maybe this is not OSX only? Cheers, Yves Am 19.02.12 08:55, schrieb Tatsuhiro Nishioka: Hi, I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from: http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need. I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems running the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old MacBook pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs. The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, apple gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make FG compatible with 10.7 and 10.5. Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving day to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made the Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool that I can trust. Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's better to have working binary. Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sf.net On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olsoncurtol...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-) Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues still pretty unknown? Again, just asking questions since I don't know much about the Mac side of things. BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8 Thanks again, Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, There's a big hope of 10.5 support. It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done). So we can encourage people to be patient for a while. I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason not to upgrade. Tat On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Hi Yves, Though I haven't check the source code deeply, fgfs doesn't seem handling --browser-app command-line option properly. According to the code, its default value for OS X is set to open, and command-line option seems to be set properly. So I guess the property node (/sim/startup/browser-app) is overwritten by the one in preferences.xml. As a matter of fact, changing line 62 of preferences.xml to the following will fix the issue. browser-app write=nopen %u/browser-app It doesn't seem OS X specific, so this may happen on Windows as well. Maybe we should ask some windows users if it works properly (and if preferences.xml is modified) Hope this helps, Tat On Feb 20, 2012, at 1:05 AM, HB-GRAL wrote: Hi Tat I downloaded 10.6/7 version and it works fine. Just one small thing I noted (because I am on this myself at the moment for FGx): GUI-Help (opens in Browser) doesn’t open anything here. But maybe this is not OSX only? Cheers, Yves Am 19.02.12 08:55, schrieb Tatsuhiro Nishioka: Hi, I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from: http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need. I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems running the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old MacBook pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs. The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, apple gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make FG compatible with 10.7 and 10.5. Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving day to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made the Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool that I can trust. Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's better to have working binary. Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sf.net On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olsoncurtol...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-) Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues still pretty unknown? Again, just asking questions since I don't know much about the Mac side of things. BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8 Thanks again, Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, There's a big hope of 10.5 support. It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done). So we can encourage people to be patient for a while. I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason not to upgrade. Tat On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatatn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Curt, There's a big hope of 10.5 support. It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done). So we can encourage people to be patient for a while. I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason not to upgrade. Tat On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-) Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues still pretty unknown? Again, just asking questions since I don't know much about the Mac side of things. BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8 Thanks again, Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.comwrote: Curt, There's a big hope of 10.5 support. It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done). So we can encourage people to be patient for a while. I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason not to upgrade. Tat On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X.
Hi, I made a special package for OS X 10.5. Go get the package from: http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads FlightGear-2.6.0 for Leopard is what you need. I recommend this package for those who have OS X 10.5 or have problems running the 2.6.0 original package on 10.6 or 10.7. This is tested on my old MacBook pro with 10.5, so it should work on other 10.5 capable macs. The special package is made with XCode 3.2.2 that was used to build FlightGear 2.0.0. Due to huge differences on SDKs between 10.5 and 10.7, apple gave up providing 10.5SDK on Xcode. This made it very difficult to make FG compatible with 10.7 and 10.5. Using Xcode 3.x on OS X 10.5 also has a problem. Since FG code is evolving day to day, it uses newer spells that 10.5 SDK doesn't understand. So I made the Come-on-FG-work-on-10.5! patch for this package :-p Moreover, some Xcode version cannot build FG properly with full optimization flags. I guess this is caused 50% by GCC bug and 50% by bad code like static class initialization with dynamic memory allocation). So picked up a dev tool that I can trust. Though the special package is a bit slower than that for 10.6/10.7 (since the latter is powered by LLVM that optimizes code much cleverer than GCC), it's better to have working binary. Anyway, I'm glad if this can save many FG Mac users. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sf.net On 2012/02/19, at 8:55, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good -- I'm just asking questions. :-) Any thoughts on the reports of crashes for some Mac users -- are you thinking you might try to upload an update in the short term, or are these issues still pretty unknown? Again, just asking questions since I don't know much about the Mac side of things. BTW, as I said in my other email, your FlightGear-2.6.0.dmg works great for me here on an iMac with OSX 10.6.8 Thanks again, Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, There's a big hope of 10.5 support. It's just a matter of time to me (to make some fixes and it's almost done). So we can encourage people to be patient for a while. I don't want to let users upgrade their Macs since there must be some reason not to upgrade. Tat On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Tat, Is there any hope of supporting OSX 10.5 or do we just need to encourage people to upgrade their software? On my iMac I think it was free -- but I'm not much of a Mac expert -- is it fair to just encourage people to upgrade to OSX 10.6 or newer? Curt. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka tatn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, FlightGear 2.6.0 for Mac OS X is available (works on OS X 10.6, and 10.7 for now). Please download it from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/macflightgear/files/FlightGear/2.6.0/ Note: Currently our website is down so please download it from SF project page. Tat --- Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Tatsuhiro Nishioka http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/ -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org