Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hangar start
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 David Megginson wrote: On 12/10/2007, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer starting with engine off (and not at threshold) so why not add support for starting somewhere else than end of runway? Starting at the gate for example (makes sense for 787 but not for the warrior) or in a hangar (if such exist at that airport). You probably wouldn't want to start in a hangar unless you wanted to animate a little pilot with a sore back pulling the plane out onto the apron -- it's extremely rare to start the prop when the plane is indoors. In front of a hangar might make sense, but with the nose angled away so that the prop blast doesn't blow back into the hangar. Maybe add tow truck to flightgear? I wouldn't want to pull an English Electric Lightning for example (would it even be possible?) /AnMaster Seriously, I think we should make it easy to start the way you want, but there's a lot of work involved. The original aircraft config system was designed to make it easy for users to override default settings at runtime, but I notice now that lots of people use Nasal scripts (etc.) to forcibly override default properties, so you're pretty-much stuck with whatever the designer decided until we have time to clean up all the config files. All the best, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHD6ngWmK6ng/aMNkRCiaXAJ9bHthmtolIcQTMmYDDBHMBSSFw3ACfQnjZ 70E1Gs1YKfTXAVY67/yNsY0= =PeL1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Hangar start
On 12/10/2007, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer starting with engine off (and not at threshold) so why not add support for starting somewhere else than end of runway? Starting at the gate for example (makes sense for 787 but not for the warrior) or in a hangar (if such exist at that airport). You probably wouldn't want to start in a hangar unless you wanted to animate a little pilot with a sore back pulling the plane out onto the apron -- it's extremely rare to start the prop when the plane is indoors. In front of a hangar might make sense, but with the nose angled away so that the prop blast doesn't blow back into the hangar. Seriously, I think we should make it easy to start the way you want, but there's a lot of work involved. The original aircraft config system was designed to make it easy for users to override default settings at runtime, but I notice now that lots of people use Nasal scripts (etc.) to forcibly override default properties, so you're pretty-much stuck with whatever the designer decided until we have time to clean up all the config files. All the best, David - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hangar start
On 12/10/2007, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe add tow truck to flightgear? I wouldn't want to pull an English Electric Lightning for example (would it even be possible?) It's fun to see the variety of tow vehicles at airports. For airliners, of course, there are the white tugs that we all recognize, but for smaller planes, I've seen old pickup trucks, converted riding mowers, and even a little dune buggy -- the only thing they have in common is that they're usually even noisier and harder to start than the airplanes. Some pilots also use powered towbars for smaller aircraft. Basically, anything up to the size of a Navajo or Cessna Caravan can (and will) get pushed around by hand, and it's a sort-of unwritten rule that you run over to help whenever you see someone starting to move a plane around; in fact, I do know a commercial Navajo pilot who can push her plane back into a spot with no assistance, though I sometimes have trouble even with my Warrior when the tires are soft and there's snow on the ground. All the best, David - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel