Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 29.07.11 15:18, schrieb HB-GRAL:
> Am 29.07.11 12:15, schrieb Durk Talsma:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 29 Jul 2011, at 02:54, HB-GRAL wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geos
>>>
>>> Can someone explain me why we use
>>>
>>>   lat="N37 42.807"
>>>   lon="W122 12.963"
>>>
>>> in parking.xml and groundnet.xml
>>>
>>
>> This is mainly for historic reasons. I started out using an example ground 
>> network file that was made using an editing tool that was originally created 
>> to MSFS, if I recall correctly. FlightGear groundnet support was developed 
>> from that example file, and the taxidraw export functions were in turn 
>> developed from this as well.
>>
>> If you have a need to change that, please let me what and how you would like 
>> this to be changed. We do need to keep some compatibility with the current 
>> format, but I don't think that it's would be too hard to make flightgear 
>> distinguish a two number format containing (NEWS keywords, vs a single 
>> decimal floating point number). I would be open to changing that.
>>
>> cheers,
>
> Hi Durk and Ron
>
> Thanks for replying here. My problem is the precision when I convert
> this values to lat-lon. How does fgfs convert this values to lat lon and
> what is the precision you should get with this values ?
>
> Thanks, Yves

Hi again, I got more precision now by changing the calculation a bit.

But when you decide once to have the same lat/lon values (degrees 
decimal) everywhere (tower, threshold, parking), would be very nice.

Cheers, Yves

Thanks, Yves

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 29.07.11 12:15, schrieb Durk Talsma:
> Hi,
>
> On 29 Jul 2011, at 02:54, HB-GRAL wrote:
>
>> Hi Geos
>>
>> Can someone explain me why we use
>>
>>  lat="N37 42.807"
>>  lon="W122 12.963"
>>
>> in parking.xml and groundnet.xml
>>
>
> This is mainly for historic reasons. I started out using an example ground 
> network file that was made using an editing tool that was originally created 
> to MSFS, if I recall correctly. FlightGear groundnet support was developed 
> from that example file, and the taxidraw export functions were in turn 
> developed from this as well.
>
> If you have a need to change that, please let me what and how you would like 
> this to be changed. We do need to keep some compatibility with the current 
> format, but I don't think that it's would be too hard to make flightgear 
> distinguish a two number format containing (NEWS keywords, vs a single 
> decimal floating point number). I would be open to changing that.
>
> cheers,

Hi Durk and Ron

Thanks for replying here. My problem is the precision when I convert 
this values to lat-lon. How does fgfs convert this values to lat lon and 
what is the precision you should get with this values ?

Thanks, Yves



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-29 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi,

On 29 Jul 2011, at 02:54, HB-GRAL wrote:

> Hi Geos
> 
> Can someone explain me why we use
> 
> lat="N37 42.807"
> lon="W122 12.963"
> 
> in parking.xml and groundnet.xml
> 

This is mainly for historic reasons. I started out using an example ground 
network file that was made using an editing tool that was originally created to 
MSFS, if I recall correctly. FlightGear groundnet support was developed from 
that example file, and the taxidraw export functions were in turn developed 
from this as well.

If you have a need to change that, please let me what and how you would like 
this to be changed. We do need to keep some compatibility with the current 
format, but I don't think that it's would be too hard to make flightgear 
distinguish a two number format containing (NEWS keywords, vs a single decimal 
floating point number). I would be open to changing that.

cheers,
Durk


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-28 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thursday 28 July 2011 18:54:21 HB-GRAL wrote:
> Hi Geos
>
> Can someone explain me why we use
>
>  lat="N37 42.807"
>  lon="W122 12.963"
>
> in parking.xml and groundnet.xml
>
> and not lat/lon formats like we use it for runways and it is used in
> apt.dat and other data files ?
>
> Thanks, Yves

Because parking.xml/groundnet.xml predates everthing else, but decimal degrees 
are much nicer to work in. 

Ron

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[Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-28 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Geos

Can someone explain me why we use

 lat="N37 42.807"
 lon="W122 12.963"

in parking.xml and groundnet.xml

and not lat/lon formats like we use it for runways and it is used in 
apt.dat and other data files ?

Thanks, Yves

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