Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux in real-world aviation (was: FG and VATSIM)
Curtis Olson wrote: 3. I'll just toss in this unrelated item ... a week ago I got to fly on a NWA A330. This aircraft had individual movie/music/game/map displays for each seat. I managed to hang/lock mine up ... apparently because the map wasn't working on this flight for some reason. So I asked the flight attendent to reset the display and when she did, it booted Linux of all things! I thought that was interesting. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Linux isn't FAA certified so it's not used for mission-critical systems but in-flight entertainment systems would be very useful on Linux. You managed to figure out what distro the Airbus was running? Some custom one? I do know that there is enough FAA certified hardware on the market capable of running RT-Linux, and I expect to see some of that hardware bleeding onto the instrument market. The A380 already does PC-based systems in its flight deck, although probably not in its entirety. Programming instrumentation in OpenGL is the way to go, and the avionics manufacturers picked that up, look at the ARINC661 standard for example. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux in real-world aviation (was: FG and VATSIM)
On 9/17/07, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux isn't FAA certified so it's not used for mission-critical systems but in-flight entertainment systems would be very useful on Linux. Yup and if they are running it on a couple hundred seats, individually, there would be no need to pay the license fees to MS which would add up really fast ... especially since they like to charge per potential user. :-) You managed to figure out what distro the Airbus was running? Some custom one? My best guess is a debian derivative, probably stripped down for this specific application. I saw the debian penguin come up at the head of the console boot messages ... only one penguin so it looks like a single processor. I don't know what the actual hardware really is ... I'd be surprised if they had one CPU per seat ... maybe they were doing some sort of virtualization? Interesting to see. Apparently my seat neighbors were not nearly as excited as I was to find out the entertainment system was running linux ... :-) Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux in real-world aviation
Ralf Gerlich wrote: I don't know whether this should be termed a good thing. Or why should Linux-advocates be proud of their operating system being seen rebooting on two independent instances? ;-) Cheers, Ralf They would be more concerned about what was happening BEFORE the reboot. The fact that the system reboots only proves the fool-proofness of it, as the IFE system comes happily back up again and continues what it was doing before :) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux in real-world aviation
On 9/17/07, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralf Gerlich wrote: I don't know whether this should be termed a good thing. Or why should Linux-advocates be proud of their operating system being seen rebooting on two independent instances? ;-) They would be more concerned about what was happening BEFORE the reboot. The fact that the system reboots only proves the fool-proofness of it, as the IFE system comes happily back up again and continues what it was doing before :) In my case the map application hung, presumably waiting for non-existant flight data since there was a message at one point that mapping services were not going to be available on this flight (which I ignored and tried anyway.) So a reboot is something a flight attendent knows how to do and can do quickly, versus logging in remotely, killing some application, restarting some other application, etc. etc. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux in real-world aviation (was: FG and VATSIM)
On Monday 17 September 2007 18:41, Curtis Olson wrote: My best guess is a debian derivative, probably stripped down for this specific application. I saw the debian penguin come up at the head of the console boot messages ... only one penguin so it looks like a single processor. I don't know what the actual hardware really is ... I'd be surprised if they had one CPU per seat ... maybe they were doing some sort of virtualization? Interesting to see. Apparently my seat neighbors were not nearly as excited as I was to find out the entertainment system was running linux ... :-) Funny, I had actually the same experience, on the same aircraft type / airliner on my last flight back from the US (Detroit - Amsterdam, May 17, Northwest, A330). The entertainment system crashed midway during a movie, and spontaneously rebooted, showing the penguin. Cheers, Durk - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
