Oh, man -- giant Nasal flame war and I totally missed it. Melchior
just now pointed me here. Sadly (or, well, not at all, actually)
Andy's been doing a lot more of the daddy thing than the hacker thing
recently. Some quick shots after the fact:
Nicolas Quijano wrote:
It's also brilliant,
Oh, man -- giant Nasal flame war and I totally missed it. Melchior
just now pointed me here. Sadly (or, well, not at all, actually)
Andy's been doing a lot more of the daddy thing than the hacker thing
recently.
I kept up fairly well as a developer when we had two, but when we went from
two
This thread has been quite entertaining! A big thanks to all the
participants!!! :-)
Curt.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.netwrote:
Oh, man -- giant Nasal flame war and I totally missed it. Melchior
just now pointed me here. Sadly (or, well, not at
I'll second that still waiting for page 3 ;)
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote:
This thread has been quite entertaining! A big thanks to all the
participants!!! :-)
Curt.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Jon S. Berndt
I learned a lot just reading it.
Curtis Olson wrote:
This thread has been quite entertaining! A big thanks to all the
participants!!! :-)
Curt.
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On lundi 09 mars 2009, gerard robin wrote:
On dimanche 08 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Nicolas Quijano -- Sunday 08 March 2009:
As for secret sources, they'll name themselves if they feel
like it,
That would be fun! But I won't hold my breath.
I don't know if i am part of that
FlightGear needed a built-in scripting language, and it has one.
A compact, clean, elegant and fast one. In total there are at the
moment more than 170.000 lines of Nasal in *.nas files and a few
thousands embedded in joystick drivers, dialog description files,
model animation files, keyboard.xml,
I've been silent in this thread mostly because I'm not very active as a
developer these days, but it got me wondering why one would use lua
instead of nasal.
Searching for 'lua nasal' in google the first hit describes it all to my
opinion:
Nice try, let me flip it right back at you : how telling of you to mix facts
and your extremely biased opinion while accusing me of the same :)
Not interested in debating this, never suggested Nasal should be dropped
from the main FGFS tree.
And even though I'm French, I've lived abroad all my
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course,
but trivial or hair pulling task ?
First: the property system was adopted *by* JSBSim. It's not something
that JSBSim brought
* Nicolas Quijano -- Sunday 08 March 2009:
As for secret sources, they'll name themselves if they feel
like it,
That would be fun! But I won't hold my breath.
No smearing at all,
The nonsense about Nasal being bandaid for a fledgling FDM and
nobody liking it, is just smearing Nasal and
* Jon S. Berndt -- Sunday 08 March 2009:
Melchior is exactly right. JSBSim adopted the property system - which is a
great piece of work by - was it David Megginson?
Yes.
For those who don't know him: David is/was also JSBSim developer,
wrote SAX (Simple API for XML), and several of the core
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 08 March 2009:
[reasons for why I write PM in the forum]
- self-proclaimed forum police trying to tell others what they can write
- some forum admins asking for more censorship without acceptable reasoning
Sorrym, should have been: people asking for more moderators
Detlef Faber wrote:
Maybe there hasn't been a lot of praise for nasal, but I guess the
broad use of nasal, even among JSBSim developers speaks for itself.
As far as I know there hasn't been any comments of lacking nasal
features (that weren't added within a short time).
Finally: I
Alexis Bory - xiii wrote:
Learning Nasal use was easy and fun and I din't found any limitation
yet. I still don't understand why Nicolas does not like it.
I don't read from Nicolas' posting as that he does not like Nasal.
Instead, he just explains in much detail why he considers his favourite
On jeudi 05 mars 2009, Detlef Faber wrote:
Ncolas,
I didn't want to comment on your first post, everyone has a bad day
sometimes, but here I like to add my 2 ct anyway.
I'm a simple content contributor with very little background in
programming. When I made my first Aircraft (the bf109) I
Howdy all, took my sweet time answering, and will not discuss this further
on the list.
I didn't want to start such a conversation, and consequently only answering
now, at the risk of seeing another polemic start : not answering could give
the wrong impression :)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:40
In the interest of clarity, moving to OSG was a good, if not brilliant move
(some potential sources of revenue would have it as a requirement as far as
open source engines are concerned)
It's simply a bit bloated, by default, although I suspect you don't have to
ship the parts you don't use at
Ncolas,
I didn't want to comment on your first post, everyone has a bad day
sometimes, but here I like to add my 2 ct anyway.
Am Mittwoch, den 04.03.2009, 17:52 -0500 schrieb Nicolas Quijano:
In the interest of clarity, moving to OSG was a good, if not brilliant
move (some potential sources of
Adding another language wouldn't be that hard. Actually, we had
another one before nasal and beside nasal for a while. It was
called PSL (plib scripting language), and we ripped it out because
Nasal was/is just better and because offering and maintaining two
languages it utterly pointless .
And
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Adding another language wouldn't be that hard. Actually, we had
another one before nasal and beside nasal for a while. It was
called PSL (plib scripting language), and we ripped it out because
Nasal was/is just better and because offering
Hi Nicolas,
for the sake of completeness it should probably be made clear that the
person who's been trying to express strong emphasis against inclusion
of another script interpreter is by no means in a position to issue a
veto.
The share of FlightGear developers who would like to see support for
just a minor curiosity:
what are the advantages of using LUA instead of Nasal ?
Cheers
Francesco
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Hi all, let me start that my goal here is NOT to start a polemic on the
reasons for using nasal vs any other scripting language, or the scripting vs
native code, or any such argument :)
Thanks for remembering that.
That said, being a long time user and proponent of levering scripting in
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:05 -0500, Nicolas Quijano wrote:
Hi all, let me start that my goal here is NOT to start a polemic on
the reasons for using nasal vs any other scripting language, or the
scripting vs native code, or any such argument :)
Thanks for remembering that.
OK, without getting
Nicolas Quijano wrote:
If the coupling is not of the hair pulling type, it might be
conceivable to integrate another scripting language alongside Nasal
for starters, and in time, completely replace it if one is so inclined :)
At the risk of diverting the thread, and not wanting to get into
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