Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-17 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.12.11 18:08, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 16.12.11 11:26, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 15.12.11 23:13, schrieb Martin Spott: Vivian Meazza wrote: The other one, which used to be non-op, seems to have gained operational capability along the way. You see, in order to avoid confusion, having just one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-16 Thread Erik Hofman
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 23:09 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote: Attached you find the list. There are 55 BAK12 and 23 BAK14 devices, 156 items total, all in the US and found in recent FAA runway data. The coordinates comes from column base/reciprocal ends of runways, published by FAA, assuming myself

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.12.11 09:38, schrieb Erik Hofman: That's probably wrong most of the time. I think the start of the blastpad is more accurate most of the time. Erik Oh no! The blastpad is ALWAYS outside the runway. In xplane specs, and also in FAA specs ! Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-16 Thread Erik Hofman
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 09:42 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote: Am 16.12.11 09:38, schrieb Erik Hofman: That's probably wrong most of the time. I think the start of the blastpad is more accurate most of the time. Oh no! The blastpad is ALWAYS outside the runway. In xplane specs, and also in FAA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 23:13, schrieb Martin Spott: Vivian Meazza wrote: The other one, which used to be non-op, seems to have gained operational capability along the way. You see, in order to avoid confusion, having just one operational arrestor would have been the clever solution. We're trying to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.12.11 11:26, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 15.12.11 23:13, schrieb Martin Spott: Vivian Meazza wrote: The other one, which used to be non-op, seems to have gained operational capability along the way. You see, in order to avoid confusion, having just one operational arrestor would have been

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Olivier
Hello Yves, Arresting cables for runways do already exist in FG: see them in action at LFRJ Naval Base for instance. Olivier -- 10 Tips for Better Server Consolidation Server virtualization is being driven by many

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 18:26, schrieb Olivier: Hello Yves, Arresting cables for runways do already exist in FG: see them in action at LFRJ Naval Base for instance. Olivier Errm, Is this BAK12/14 or MA1A, ES or E28/B ? ;-) Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
HB-GRAL -Original Message- From: [mailto:flightg...@sablonier.ch] Sent: 15 December 2011 17:37 To: Olivier; FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices Am 15.12.11 18:26, schrieb Olivier: Hello Yves, Arresting cables

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: The ones I did in fgdata are BAK12. Just for the record, the original BAK-12 was provided by David Culp: http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=918 We're having two models of a BAK-12 in the Base Package because some people here are incapable to comprehend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 20:39, schrieb Martin Spott: Vivian Meazza wrote: The ones I did in fgdata are BAK12. Just for the record, the original BAK-12 was provided by David Culp: http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=918 We're having two models of a BAK-12 in the Base Package because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Vivian Meazza wrote: The ones I did in fgdata are BAK12. Just for the record, the original BAK-12 was provided by David Culp: http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=918 We're having two models of a BAK-12 in the Base Package because some people here are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: And close to my nose I see here some mystic FAA data output: [...] Is this something that could/should come to the scenery database somehow ? Generally I'd say: Great ! but I'd feel best if I knew that these positions really match the touchdown areas of 'our' runways. How

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: Martin Spott [mailto:martin.sp...@mgras.net] Sent: 15 December 2011 19:39 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices Vivian Meazza wrote: The ones I did in fgdata are BAK12. Just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 22:37, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: And close to my nose I see here some mystic FAA data output: [...] Is this something that could/should come to the scenery database somehow ? Generally I'd say: Great ! but I'd feel best if I knew that these positions really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: The other one, which used to be non-op, seems to have gained operational capability along the way. You see, in order to avoid confusion, having just one operational arrestor would have been the clever solution. We're trying to simulate real-world, don't we ? Sure, we're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: The coordinates comes from column base/reciprocal ends of runways, is your definition supposed to be identical to runway centerline at threshold ? Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 23:21, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: The coordinates comes from column base/reciprocal ends of runways, is your definition supposed to be identical to runway centerline at threshold ? Cheers, Martin. It is Latitude/Longitude of physical runway

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Arresting Type Devices

2011-12-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.12.11 23:49, schrieb HB-GRAL: EDF 06BAK12 61.248633 -149.844258333 AVN 08.11.03 EDF 16BAK12 61.262069 -149.793475 AVN 08.11.03 BIG 19BAK12 64.0077345 -145.707352861 AVN 02/16/2007 EIL 14BAK12 64.684208 -147.117919444