Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-09 Thread Fernando García Liñán
Since there was some problem with the wiki article, I'll just say that
there is some on-going work on a stand-alone ATC client and I'll keep
working on it.

And taking the opportunity... if someone wants to join the project, give
ideas, requests or opinions, feel free to do so. The repository is here:
http://gitorious.org/fgradar .

Icecode.

2012/10/8 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net

 Fernando García wrote:

  But I guess it is not that useless.

 Well, but the wording You are advised not to start working on anything
 directly related to this is highly inappropriate.  Apparently someone
 has completely failed to understand the topic.

 Cheers,
 Martin.
 --
  Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
 --


 --
 Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
 Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
 what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
 Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
 http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
 ___
 Flightgear-devel mailing list
 Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


[Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando García Liñán
Hello everyone,

Since mid-summer I've been working on a free and open-source stand-alone
ATC client written in C++, totally from scratch with the help of the GTKmm
GUI toolkit (http://www.gtkmm.org/en/) and the Cairo 2D graphics library (
http://www.cairographics.org/). I started this as a project to learn from
and take some practice while developing it at the same time, as well as
satisfying my needs of a complete and more professional ATC client for
FlightGear.

I knew about the ongoing development of the Canvas system (it is looking
awesome, keep going!), but I didn't think about its possible application to
current ATC aircrafts in FlightGear.

I've already seen opinions about the subject. Some people think it is just
useless to start something from scratch when you have a huge framework such
as SimGear, or when you can work directly in FlightGear with Nasal. Me, and
other people's opinion is that a stand-alone client is a good idea. I've
heard of many people who want to ATC properly in FG, but their computers
can't run it, and if they can, really badly. Also a program designed
specially for something is usually much better than a patch on another
program.

So as said in the FlightGear's wiki article about the subject, I would like
to coordinate my ideas with the core developers.

Icecode.
--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García Liñán wrote:

 So as said in the FlightGear's wiki article about the subject, [...]

Do you have an URL available ?

Martin.
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
--

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando García Liñán
Sure: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Stand_Alone_ATC_Control_Development

2012/10/8 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net

 Fernando García Liñán wrote:

  So as said in the FlightGear's wiki article about the subject, [...]

 Do you have an URL available ?

 Martin.
 --
  Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
 --


 --
 Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
 Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
 what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
 Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
 http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
 ___
 Flightgear-devel mailing list
 Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García Liñán wrote:

 Sure: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Stand_Alone_ATC_Control_Development

Thanks - I took the freedom to remove the stupid comment  ;-)

Thanks,
Martin.
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
--

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando García
But I guess it is not that useless. A stand-alone ATC client can really 
get affected by Canvas, even more now that people are working on an ATC 
aircraft using Canvas. I would leave that comment since (at least for 
me) it was useful.

Icecode.

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stand-alone ATC client and Canvas

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
Fernando García wrote:

 But I guess it is not that useless.

Well, but the wording You are advised not to start working on anything
directly related to this is highly inappropriate.  Apparently someone
has completely failed to understand the topic.

Cheers,
Martin.
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
--

--
Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM
Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly
what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app
Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev
___
Flightgear-devel mailing list
Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel