Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sun Light placement

2011-08-19 Thread Vic Marriott

Hi All,

Thanks for the astronomy lesson. I will try to not ask any more silly  
questions. Durk's explanation illustrated the point so well that even  
I could understand it. :0)


Mind you, the information you have all given me means any Country  
Music or Cowboy films, which refer to the Sun setting in the West,  
will have to be seasonably adjusted in future.


Coming back to my item 1 though:
http://i.imgur.com/N9wDU.png
As shown in this picture, I am facing 350º (almost due North), at 0915  
hrs, but the light source is coming from the left (West).


Now let's see if this one can be explained by my ignorance.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sun Light placement

2011-08-18 Thread Emilian Huminiuc
On Thursday 18 August 2011 11:36:46 Vic Marriott wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am not blaming this on the new V 2.4.0, because this problem existed
 before. I didn't want to distract anyone working on the new release.
 
 1.  I have noticed, that when at EGKA the light is showing from the
 wrong direction. This pic was taken at 0915 today:
 http://i.imgur.com/N9wDU.png
 
 2.  At dusk, the Sun shows at 290º. This can't be correct as EGKA is
 at 50.50º north. I would expect the Sun to be below 270º.
 http://i.imgur.com/cd9Ub.png
 
 Is this a known fault, or should I raise it on the bug tracker?
 
 Cheers,
 Vic

According to heavens above, the 290 degrees azimuth for dusk is about right:
http://www.heavens-
above.com/sun.aspx?lat=50.81982lng=-0.14282loc=Unspecifiedalt=0tz=BST

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sun Light placement

2011-08-18 Thread Erik Hofman
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 12:32 +0300, Emilian Huminiuc wrote:
 http://www.heavens-
 above.com/sun.aspx?lat=50.81982lng=-0.14282loc=Unspecifiedalt=0tz=BST 

Yeah it's probably not the sun position but rather the sky dome coloring
code that's the problem.

Erik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sun Light placement

2011-08-18 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Vic,

On 18 Aug 2011, at 10:36, Vic Marriott wrote:

 
 2.  At dusk, the Sun shows at 290º. This can't be correct as EGKA is  
 at 50.50º north. I would expect the Sun to be below 270º.
 http://i.imgur.com/cd9Ub.png
 

The compass direction of the sunset's location is actually more related to the 
time of year then it is related to latitude. In Nothern hemisphere summer, the 
sun always sets north of the 270 degree line, while in wintertime it's south. 
The amount of deviation is related to how far north / south your are, which is 
in turn related to the amount of seasonal daylight time variation that occurs 
as a function of latitude. I currently don't have time for a lengthy 
explanation, but the 23 degree tilt of the earth's rotation axis with respect 
to the sun is of key importance here. When you go far enough north, the 
location of sunset will touch the 360 degree line on June 21; in other words 
the sun touches the horizon due north. That latitude is known as the arctic 
circle. If you go even further north, the sun will no longer set (in summer 
time), and keep moving all the way through the northern hemisphere, hence 
causing the midsummer night daylight. 

I'm happy to explain the process in more detail as soon as I have more time.

Cheers,
Durk
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