[Flightgear-devel] making sign of side-slip consistent between fdm (bug 901)

2013-07-29 Thread jean pellotier
hi there,

following this bug report:

http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=901

it appears that orientation/side-slip-deg and side-slip-rad don't have 
the same sign, depending if it's a yasim or a jsbsim plane.

is there a commonly adopted convention for this property?

if not, shouldn't we document somewhere the meaning of the different fdm 
properties present in fg tree, to avoid such problems in the future ?

jano

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] making sign of side-slip consistent between fdm (bug 901)

2013-07-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
As in this image:

http://dodlithr.blogspot.com/2011/09/airplanes-stability-axis.html

Beta is positive when the wind hits the right side of the vehicle. This is
the only standard convention I have ever seen. I would recommend strongly
against artificially changing the sign of this parameter as output from
JSBSim.

Jon


 -Original Message-
 From: jean pellotier [mailto:jean.pellot...@wanadoo.fr]
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:27 AM
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 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] making sign of side-slip consistent between
 fdm (bug 901)
 
 hi there,
 
 following this bug report:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=901
 
 it appears that orientation/side-slip-deg and side-slip-rad don't have
 the same sign, depending if it's a yasim or a jsbsim plane.
 
 is there a commonly adopted convention for this property?
 
 if not, shouldn't we document somewhere the meaning of the different
 fdm properties present in fg tree, to avoid such problems in the future
 ?
 
 jano
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] making sign of side-slip consistent between fdm (bug 901)

2013-07-29 Thread James Turner

On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:54, Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net wrote:

 Beta is positive when the wind hits the right side of the vehicle. This is
 the only standard convention I have ever seen. I would recommend strongly
 against artificially changing the sign of this parameter as output from
 JSBSim.

Which raises the question, why does Yasim use the opposite sign? Does it use 
the opposite sign for Beta too?

James

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