Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi Harry, Could I ask if via simgear and I assume to alsa behind that, if its possible to to get control over the levels of left and right channels and hook them on the property tree. Where I am heading here splitting a single stereo sound device into 2 mono channels, ie is to be able

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 09:41 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Harry, FlightGear uses a 3d sound system so as far as I know, we can't directly split sound like you are asking for. However it should be possible to specify the position of a sound in the cockpit and achieve pretty much the same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 10:04 +, Heiko Schulz wrote: Sorry to come up again with that but I still wonder why it doesn't work that good on win-systems. Interestingly I heard that FGFS should give you a message if you use a multi-channel-soundfile- I never had that on win32 here, even using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 10:04 +, Heiko Schulz wrote: Sorry to come up again with that but I still wonder why it doesn't work that good on win-systems. I sincerely wouldn't know since I haven't been using windows for ages. I do know that there are a lot of small differences between OpenAL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Harry Campigli
Hi Eric, Thanks for that, I would be most gratefull to lias with you on FG sound To explain its a multi motherboard sim setup with Boeing panels interfaced via a can network. Each nav, comm and dme head has its own volume, these I expect can be dealt with, what i was hoping to do was use the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 17:38 +0700, Harry Campigli wrote: Hi Eric, Thanks for that, I would be most gratefull to lias with you on FG sound To explain its a multi motherboard sim setup with Boeing panels interfaced via a can network. Each nav, comm and dme head has its own volume,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Harry Campigli
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 17:38 +0700, Harry Campigli wrote: Hi Eric, Thanks for that, I would be most gratefull to lias with you on FG sound To explain its a multi motherboard sim setup with Boeing panels interfaced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 10:04 +, Heiko Schulz wrote: Interestingly I heard that FGFS should give you a message if you use a multi-channel-soundfile- I never had that on win32 here, even using a multichannel-file. Diving deeper into it this actually might be an ALUT bug/omission since the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 15:44 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 10:04 +, Heiko Schulz wrote: Interestingly I heard that FGFS should give you a message if you use a multi-channel-soundfile- I never had that on win32 here, even using a multichannel-file. Diving deeper

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:39:50 +0700, Harry wrote in message aanlktinrcltyv3+g99udl+ijym-jh0zug4yrag-o0...@mail.gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 17:38 +0700, Harry Campigli wrote: Hi Eric, Thanks for that, I would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Harry Campigli
Gee Arnt, i am not the one to say, for starters what I am doing is quite off track compared to the average flight gear user. I have to remain prepared to hand do things to suit my needs. If I can hand edit a file in /etc once and know its going to stay that way I am happy for my setup. I am not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:45:56 +0700, Harry wrote in message aanlktimk86fsmgmhwop_n2jc9s1qz10p8s4hcxucc...@mail.gmail.com: Gee Arnt, i am not the one to say, for starters what I am doing is quite off track compared to the average flight gear user. I have to remain prepared to hand do

[Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread Harry Campigli
Folks, Could I ask if via simgear and I assume to alsa behind that, if its possible to to get control over the levels of left and right channels and hook them on the property tree. Where I am heading here splitting a single stereo sound device into 2 mono channels, ie is to be able to steer nav

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Harry, FlightGear uses a 3d sound system so as far as I know, we can't directly split sound like you are asking for. However it should be possible to specify the position of a sound in the cockpit and achieve pretty much the same thing. At least this used to work several years ago when I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread Harry Campigli
Thanks Curt, well there more than one way to skin a cat, I can push the motherboard sound chips in the networked machines into service, or maybe load a few el-cheapo sound cards in the spare pci slots of the main machine. Should be able to get around it that way, Reason behind it is the audio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread Curtis Olson
In a past life when I was working on a big driving sim built around a real car we also used several separate PC's for audio ... we wanted outside noises, inside noises, left, right, front, back, etc. Some of that we could have done with software mixing, but in our context, a lot of it was just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread Harry Campigli
Ok curt, Heaven forbid I am trying to cull pcs not add more. I wrote an additional network io module to get cloud and navaid settings to the slaves a couple of years ago i will revisit that after I figure out the changes the developers have made of late. I guess i should put some of this non

Re: [Flightgear-devel] sound via simgear

2011-02-11 Thread ThorstenB
On 11.02.2011 16:41, Curtis Olson wrote: In addition in an external fly-by you could hear the sound moving from one speaker to the other which was really cool. Now that I think about it we may have lost that positional capability in the fly by so I don't know if positioning the sound