[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
After the psychological strain increased significantly ;-) I tried to build the whole TerraGear stuff on my RS6k. This is a really laborious taks because you have to provide lots of manual fixes (GTS' 'configure' fails to parse `glib-config --version`, Makefiles often miss '-lsgstructure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Martin Spott : After the psychological strain increased significantly ;-) I tried to build the whole TerraGear stuff on my RS6k. This is a really laborious taks because you have to provide lots of manual fixes (GTS' 'configure' fails to parse `glib-config --version`, Makefiles often

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-30 Thread Chuck Cole
As promised, I've attached the files that I modified to make FlightGear work with my client software. These modifications allow my client software to receive the correct values out of FlightGear using the native-fdm network setting. I started with the FlightGear v0.9.6 release files to make the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: The other utilities and libraries do not use GTS. Aaah, I see, apparently 'libGeometry.a' provides and uses these calls: osprey: 15:14:29 /usr/local/src/TerraGear/src/Prep/GSHHS nm ../../../src/Lib/Geometry/libGeometry.a | grep triangulate .triangulate U

[Flightgear-devel] How does the Replay Subsystem work?

2004-11-30 Thread heckelyu
Title: How does the Replay Subsystem work? Hi, I am trying to read flight data from a FDR (Flight Data Recorder, black box) and input some of the data into FlightGear's Replay system to display the flight. If using the Replay functionality in the FlightGear and I only care some of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: The other utilities and libraries do not use GTS. Fine, the following patch removes the dependency on GTS. Can we now drop GLIB as well ? - snip -- --- configure.ac.original Mon Aug 2 14:09:10 2004 +++

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Martin Spott : Frederic Bouvier wrote: The other utilities and libraries do not use GTS. Fine, the following patch removes the dependency on GTS. Can we now drop GLIB as well ? Yes, but you need to remove ArrayFit from Prep/Makefile.am -Fred

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3809 Modified Files: preferences.xml Log Message: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. More importantly, FlightGear still tries to load the Nimitz even when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Yes, but you need to remove ArrayFit from Prep/Makefile.am and 'testgts' from Array/Makefile.am (which appears to be the only reference to GTS): --- Makefile.am.originalSat Aug 30 14:00:15 2003 +++ Makefile.am Tue Nov 30 15:50:19 2004 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Jon Stockill
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 15:55: Erik Hofman wrote: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Yes, he did. But Vivian's changes from today refer to a file nimitz-complex.ac, which isn't in CVS, and was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: osprey: 14:13:04 /usr/local/src/TerraGear/src/Prep/GSHHS make [...] g++ -mcpu=604e -mtune=604e -mpowerpc-gpopt -mpowerpc-gfxopt -O3 -L/opt/gnu/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib -static-libgcc -s -L/opt/FlightGear/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o gshhs main.o gshhs_split.o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear on AIX ....

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Problem solved: I have to add '../../Lib/TriangleJRS/libTriangleJRS.a'. If in manage to get this undertaking to an end then I'll post a resume. It would be nice if someone were willing to incorporate the necessary changes into the TerraGear 'autoconf/automake' mimics, In

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Stockill -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 16:39: At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log Message: Remove crease tag so that people without custom patched versions of plib can still run FlightGear. :-) Yes, and at ... um ... right *now*: $ cd

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ * Jon Stockill -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 16:39: At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log Message: Remove crease tag so that people without custom patched versions of plib can still run FlightGear. :-) Yes, and at ... um ... right *now*: $ cd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Megginson On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Absolutely right, but here we are talking FG cvs with plib cvs (or not as the case might be) Right, but if we depend on plib cvs, we could never again make a stable release until plib rolls the current cvs version into a stable release ... that puts us in a bad position.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought that Wolfram Kuss had uploaded it. What's the problem -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 15:55: Erik Hofman wrote: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Yes, he did. But Vivian's changes from today refer to a file nimitz-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:30: I use the plib version provided on Martin Spott's site. Very satisfactory and stable it is too, [...] A few of our models do still not work properly with applied crease patch. dhc2 b1900d Citation-II All of them show holes where the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-30 Thread Gerhard Wesp
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:21:23AM -0500, Chuck Cole wrote: As promised, I've attached the files that I modified to make FlightGear work with my client software. These modifications allow my client software to Hi Chuck, this is already a lot better than the old solution. (Specifically, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting data out of FlightGear

2004-11-30 Thread Gerhard Wesp
... and _do_ bump the version number!! Cheers -Gerhard -- Gerhard Wesp o o Tel.: +41 (0) 43 5347636 Bachtobelstrasse 56 | http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~gwesp/ CH-8045 Zuerich \_/ See homepage for email address! net_fdm.hxx Description: Binary data

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:47: Melchior FRANZ wrote: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/\ Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz-complex.ac' for reading Fatal error: Failed to load 3D model Just delete -complex Sure. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How does the Replay Subsystem work?

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to read flight data from a FDR (Flight Data Recorder, black box) and input some of the data into FlightGear's Replay system to display the flight. If using the Replay functionality in the FlightGear and I only care some of the values such as:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.4 released

2004-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:50:36 -0500, Chris wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:33:36 +0200 Paul Surgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty neat technology. No decompression is required as reading a texture is done on the fly when it's required. If only a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a history of depending

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:47: Melchior FRANZ wrote: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/\ Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz-complex.ac' for reading Fatal error: Failed to load 3D model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 23:02: * Melchior FRANZ wrote: [...] we are lacking a couple of textures that were removed. No problem, as long as the carrier is disabled, anyway. I'll check the textures. Disabled - do you mean broken? No, I mean the fact that the nimitz_demo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: We all are busy. Steve is extremely busy. It doesn't hurt to follow up on these things (more than once if needed.) If done in a sensitive way, you can usually accomplish reasonable things with reasonable people. I don't think anyone here is attempting to blame

[Flightgear-devel] error building FlightGear on RH Linux 7.2 with gcc 2.9.6

2004-11-30 Thread Ron King
Hi , I get the following error when making FlightGear: main.cxx: in function 'bool fgMainInit(int, char **): main.cxx:747: assuming on overloaded member function the offending line contains: fgRegisterDrawHandler(FGRenderer::update); Can someone tell me how to fix this? Regards, Ron

[Flightgear-devel] Build Problem Under MacOS X 10.3

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan Polley
I tried building with the latest MacOS changes from CVS and found one problem. When compiler.h gets generated, the symbol SG_GLUT_H gets defined to be OpenGL/glut.h when it needs to be defined as GLUT/glut.h. It is a part of the GLUT framework and not the OpenGL framework. Thanks, Jonathan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] error building FlightGear on RH Linux 7.2 with gcc 2.9.6

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ron King wrote: Hi , I get the following error when making FlightGear: main.cxx: in function 'bool fgMainInit(int, char **): main.cxx:747: assuming on overloaded member function the offending line contains: fgRegisterDrawHandler(FGRenderer::update); Can someone tell me how to fix this? Ron, for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] error building FlightGear on RH Linux 7.2 with gcc 2.9.6

2004-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:51:40 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ron, for what it's worth RH 7.2 is *really* old, and gcc-2.96 was kind of a half-baked cvs snapshot that RedHat grabbed for various [debatable] reasons. It had a lot of bugs and caused a lot of grief ..staying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Perhaps as a direct suggestion to the immediate issue of the crease patch, we should get more FG people onboard as plib contributors with cvs access so we can make direct contributions and get this fixed? I looked at the developer list of the plib project (