[Flightgear-devel] Segmentation fault related to Mesa ??

2003-10-20 Thread Jonathan Richards
I can reproduce a segfault, which I have traced with gdb, but at this point I am well out of my depth. Session transcript follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main]$ gdb ./fgfs (gdb) run --fg-root=/usr/local/FlightGear-0.9 --control=joystick --enable-fullscreen {FlightGear starts perfectly and goes on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer Server RFC -- Current Status

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 06 Nov 2003 9:10 am, Norman Vine wrote: John Barrett writes: primary goal: blow them outa the sky !! FWIW Historicaly FlightGear has resisted being a Military SIM. actually resisted is not a strong enough word What I value about FlightGear is that it attempts to *simulate* the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer Server RFC -- Current Status

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 06 Nov 2003 1:05 pm, David Luff wrote: The very very latest CVS (not the 0.9.3 release) can generate some situation-relevant messages from the tower to the user - if you'd like to participate in the ATC development then just shout, there's plenty to do! David - I was so enthused

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer Server RFC -- Current Status

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 06 Nov 2003 8:13 pm, David Luff wrote: Jonathan Richards writes: I loaded up all the /ATC/*.cxx files into KDevelop this morning to see if I could understand how it all fits together, but rapidly got lost in the detail. Have you got a paragraph or two to hand which describes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Combat anti-flame

2003-11-11 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 10:07 am, Martin Spott wrote: Although I dislike to see combat features in FlightGear I must admit that it's quite some fun to fly these birds - there are no civilian equivalents with that much power and speed At least, now that the Concorde fleet is retired. Alpha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Newbie needs a mentor(s)

2003-11-11 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:24 am, Phil Spurr wrote: Hi all I've recently (with help from Curt) managed to download and run the Win32 binaries and have been very impressed with all of your work in creating Flightgear. I would like to become involved with the project, but I'm looking at using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scanned sectional charts online

2003-11-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 1:22 am, David Megginson wrote: There are raw, scanned sectionals and terminal charts available online. I haven't downloaded and unpacked the zipfiles yet, so I'm not sure of the format. Sectionals, at 1:500,000 scale, are the most commonly-used charts for VFR

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scanned sectional charts online

2003-11-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:10 pm, Jonathan Richards wrote: Frustratingly, I can't get the geotiff packages to install. snip Anyone know how to unstick this? geotiff gives us a tool to read the tags in the TIFF files. Sorry to follow up my own post. I gave up on the rpm packages and tried

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport vehicle (driving) sim

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 9:24 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: FlightGear would need several changes in various areas to support things like water landings. Firstly we would need to be able to specify various ground types. One way of doing this is to have a number attached to each polygon in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sunken Runways (was TaxiDraw-0.0.5 available)

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 10:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Elliott worte: You said If anyone has any requests I'd be happy to add them or move them up the list. :) Not an RAF field but I've noticed that London Stanstead (EGSS) appears to have been sunk about 50ft into the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: the horizon

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 27 Nov 2003 5:23 am, JD Fenech wrote: Not too shabby, but it probably has holes. I do know that the last time I checked, FG will display the sun at midnight, especially if you fly up high enough, even if the earth is actually in the way, as in directly in the way. The diagram

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Concorde

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 7:51 pm, Major A wrote: Hi guys, We've just had a really lucky day in Bristol today, as far as weather goes. There were some dark clouds in the West, I think we wouldn't have seen much of Concorde's last flight if it had been half an hour earlier or later! Anyway,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG logo Slovenian flag

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 27 Nov 2003 9:47 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Yeah, but then you'd get a fight over which flag is put in first and which flag is shows just for 0.1 usec (e.g. the last flag) ... Outside NATO HQ in Brussels, the flags are in alphabetical order of national name. English name, though, so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Screenshots with changed sky color

2003-11-30 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 9:43 am, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I don't know where on earth you can see sky so blue without colour enhancer on your camera (polarizer or blue filter), especially when looking at the sun. EGTP = Perranporth 50.331585 deg N 5.177602 deg W!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 9:37 pm, Norman Vine wrote: http://perthon.sourceforge.net/ :-) Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl is 1074. Is python really that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Jsbsim-devel] FlightGear on O'Reilly Network, December 11

2003-12-13 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 12 Dec 2003 4:42 am, Alan King wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: I can't find it. You might need to register with O'Reilly to see the article. Jon Nah it works for me, but I also looked past it at first. Just say 'It's in the three ad's at the top of the text, right one. Looks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]

2004-01-15 Thread Jonathan Richards
some people. Thanks! Curt. Regards Jonathan Richards (nearer to EG03 than EGLL, but that's not a problem!) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding realistic textures and objects to scenery

2004-02-05 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 05 Feb 2004 9:06 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Luca Masera wrote: Hi everyone, I'm using FlightGear and I've seen the realistic scenery that could be used. snip The scenery you have seen was probably derived from a commercially available satellite image CD-ROM set of the UK. I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC voice howto

2004-02-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 12 Feb 2004 5:31 pm, David Luff wrote: OK, here's some instructions on how to generate new ATC voices for FlightGear. Hopefully this will make some sense to somebody, ask if it's unclear. snip Two files are required for each voice - a wave file containing the actual sounds, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-14 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Saturday 14 Feb 2004 6:27 pm, Norman Vine wrote: snip AFAIK In most systems if an object is represented by a point location it is expected that said location will be 'near' the center of the object in question. In the case of radar the center point of the 'target's on-screen echo' when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Baby

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 18 Feb 2004 7:55 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hi, quick announcement ... baby! Amelia Esther, 8lbs 1oz, born 6:12am this morning, less than 1 hour from first contraction to delivery. 12 minutes from arrival at the hospital to delivery. Everyone is doing good. I'll be pretty much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Monday 23 Feb 2004 3:34 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Hello, I've assembled a 'small' (40 MByte) FlightGear package and included a README: This is a subset of the FlightGear Open Source flight simulator, packaged together with the purpose to serve as a specific benchmarking tool among different

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-24 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:27:58 +0100, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote snip ..uh-oh, http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/ means they _distribute_, no? AFAICT, they need to put the FG sources somewhere like http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/source/ too, to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Open Source Space Symposium]

2004-03-29 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Monday 29 Mar 2004 10:18 pm, Jon Berndt wrote: But what on earth is an Open Source Space Symposium? A meeting that wishes it wasn't? J. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new FGBenchmark package

2004-03-30 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Monday 23 Feb 2004 3:34 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [on release of 0.0.1] Hello, I've assembled a 'small' (40 MByte) FlightGear package and included a README: This is a subset of the FlightGear Open Source flight simulator, packaged together with the purpose to serve as a specific benchmarking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with Reset

2004-04-01 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 2:42 pm, Marcio Shimoda wrote: Hi! After few seconds of flight, I crashed the airplane (c172-3d). Then I did reset FG, but when it restarted, the airplane appeared upside-down and pointed to the end of track. Somebody has the same problem? Marcio Yes, I do. It's not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with Reset

2004-04-01 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 8:38 pm, Jim Wilson wrote: Jonathan Richards said: On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 2:42 pm, Marcio Shimoda wrote: Hi! After few seconds of flight, I crashed the airplane (c172-3d). Then I did reset FG, but when it restarted, the airplane appeared upside-down

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire Hurricane manuals

2004-04-02 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 31 Mar 2004 11:09 am, Vivian Meazza wrote: snip I now have the Spitfire IIa model well underway. I have all the drawings and data I need (far too much probably). I've rather lost the bubble on the recent changes to the piston engine simulation in YASim: Vivian The pictures here

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim initialization bug

2004-04-02 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 02 Apr 2004 2:23 pm, David Culp wrote: Earlier we had a report of a reset issue on the list. It appears that the problem only affects a couple JSBSim aircraft...the c172 (all of them) and the 737. Everything else seems to trim fine. I don't use the reset feature, but I just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Raised Runways

2004-04-06 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 3:22 am, Lee Elliott wrote: snip * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 05 April 2004 04:55: Could you send me an example or two or three of airports that are especially glaringly wrong? I hope to dig into this problem in the upcoming week to see if I can get to the bottom

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] g77 and link errors

2004-04-07 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 7:40 pm, Jon S Berndt wrote: I'm trying to build an application in gnu fortran (g77) but I end up with these link errors: /usr/bin/../lib/libg2c.a(fmtlib.o)(.text+0x57):fmtlib.c: undefined reference to `__umoddi3'

[Flightgear-devel] Terrain textures

2004-04-08 Thread Jonathan Richards
I'm trying to experiment with alternative terrain textures for the scenery which I have built for the UK, but which looks odd when it's painted to look like an irrigated American prairie :¬) I took a look at $FG_ROOT/materials.xml, which defines how the materials are put together, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] external HUD proposal (with code !)

2004-04-09 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 09 Apr 2004 6:46 am, Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 04:37:30 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..you wrote it, rip it apart and see if _some_ things _can_ be GPL'ed. Actually, I didn't write the HUD code. This code already existed when I started working on the project.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Abort: AIMgr problem??

2004-04-09 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 09 Apr 2004 8:46 am, Durk Talsma wrote: That's interesting: Does anybody know how I turn off the AI traffic (other that hacking the code). I tried browsing the commandline options but couldn't find one there. It's an option from the FlightGear menu ATC/AI. I'm afraid I have to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Welcome on board Flight Gear !

2004-04-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Tuesday 13 Apr 2004 12:45 am, Olivier Soussiel wrote: Does someone already fly with Flight Gear? snip Flying in real IMC with a synthetic VFR environment could then dramatically increases situation awareness. Olivier You mean flying with FlightGear, as in off the ground, right? The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL - http://www.openal.org

2004-04-22 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 22 Apr 2004 8:39 pm, Chris Horler wrote: Martin wrote: Curt wrote: I'm looking forward to the report. :-) Jon, Does the patch work? Or require a bit of modification? Maybe we might have to wait if Jonathon hasn't yet sent it. Cheers, Sorry, guys, I'm a bit behind the curve;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Motion Base Simulator ?

2004-04-22 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 22 Apr 2004 5:43 am, Jon Berndt wrote: You've seen those hydraulically actuated little simulator rides? Forget that, here's a bigger one: http://tinyurl.com/2oxzd See that? That's coming to next year's Linux Expo, that is! We can dream, I suppose... J.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo

2004-04-23 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 23 Apr 2004 1:22 pm, Richard Bytheway wrote: You can find my pictures at http://photos.stockill.org.uk/ludex2004 I have to ask, what is img_0006.jpg (Captioned It's evil but it might just work.)? Richard It's the arrangement of two potentiometers at right angles that we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo

2004-04-23 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 23 Apr 2004 4:11 pm, Vivian Meazza wrote: Jon Stockill wrote snip They were particularly impressed with the Seahawk and hunter models, so if Vivian wants to do a Seafire version of his spitfire model I'm sure they'd be happy to supply some information. The thought had crossed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2004 Linux User Developer Expo

2004-04-23 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Friday 23 Apr 2004 5:24 pm, Vivian Meazza wrote: Jonathan Richards snip I'm prepared to write to the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight [1] and ask them for information. snip I think that would be a very good idea. I think I have evolved a pretty good idea of what it did from various

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why ZERO

2004-05-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 13 May 2004 12:51 am, Bruce Finney wrote: Andy Ross wrote: stuff cut the way software systems are expected to act. Real Programmers count from zero. Always have, always will. NOTE: FORTRAN programmers count from 1, always have, always will!!! ...and APL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why ZERO

2004-05-12 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 13 May 2004 12:57 am, David Megginson wrote: Bruce Finney wrote: the way software systems are expected to act. Real Programmers count from zero. Always have, always will. NOTE: FORTRAN programmers count from 1, always have, always will!!! Does that apply to both of

[Flightgear-devel] Segmentation fault during joystick initialization: input.cxx

2004-04-28 Thread Jonathan Richards
I'm getting a segfault in a newly-compiled-from-cvs FlightGear: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jonathan]$ ls ~/.fgfsrc ls: /home/jonathan/.fgfsrc: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] jonathan]$ fgfs --log-level=bulk yadda yadda Looking for bindings for joystick Saitek Saitek X45 cut Trying Saitek

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Segmentation fault during joystick initialization: input.cxx

2004-04-28 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 28 Apr 2004 9:30 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Try this (sent to Erik already) snip That got it! Thanks for the quick response! Regards Jonathan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] My day for segfaults...

2004-04-28 Thread Jonathan Richards
Firstly, can I say that with OpenAL, and Erik's tip for .openalrc I get much better sound quality from a SoundBlaster Live! and a 5.1 speaker setup. However, if I exchange frequencies on com1, and then swap them back again, I get a segmentation fault. I know Dave Luff reported a problem with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] My day for segfaults... still

2004-04-28 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Wednesday 28 Apr 2004 9:00 pm, David Luff wrote: Jonathan Richards writes: However, if I exchange frequencies on com1, and then swap them back again, I get a segmentation fault. I know Dave Luff reported a problem with ATIS, but I understood that Curt had submitted a fix. This seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positional sounds

2004-04-29 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 29 Apr 2004 6:40 am, Martin Spott wrote: I _strongly_ support Arnt's idea of 3D coordinates for the sound/noise sources. To complete the picture I'd suggest binding the listener's ear positions to the view direction (implemented somewhere in the viewer mechanics in order to make it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear news letter

2004-05-02 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Monday 26 Apr 2004 5:39 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote, among other things: There is a *lot* of things going on with the FlightGear project at various levels and it would be nice to have a monthly or quarterly summary in newsletter form for ourselves too. I've volunteered to help John

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear news letter

2004-05-02 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Sun May 2 11:08:06 CDT 2004, Jon Berndt jsb at hal-pc.org wrote: snip FlightBeer. A just reward. :-) Hmm. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3286049.stm refers, I think :¬) Nonetheless, your entry is in the hat; multiple tries are allowed! I thought things were a bit quiet through the day,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 20 May 2004 8:48 pm, Chris Metzler wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:34:02 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If anyone one the list has the IP address 24.214.247.18 right now and is unfortunate enough to use Windows and Outlook, please disconnect your ethernet