[Flightgear-devel] Debugging under CygWin

2001-12-09 Thread Julian Foad
Can any of you debug FlightGear using the CygWin GDB? Whenever I try, I can use the basic functions (stepping, breakpoints, view source code, etc) if I am very careful to treat it gently, but when FlightGear crashes GDB tends to crash too. I am using version 20010428-3 and I use the GUI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight.hxx accessors

2002-01-08 Thread Julian Foad
John Wojnaroski wrote: Also can't find where the baro/altimeter setting is to correct for density altitude. Tried searching on barometric, kollsman, etc nada. (I'd like to but a vowel) ;-) Look for datum or subscale in Cockpit/steam.cxx, where the altimeter reading is calculated. -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Altitude Calculation

2002-01-16 Thread Julian Foad
John Wojnaroski wrote: In steam.cxx the pressure datum is set to some setting that represents atmospheric pressure. Okay, so far But can't find any connection between the two. ... In the present FlightGear code, the atmospheric pressure (the_STATIC_inhg) used to calculate the altimeter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Base package CVS: read lock failed

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
Still happening just the same. Is it my fault? - Julian John Check wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2002 04:28 pm, you wrote: Does this indicate a problem on the base package CVS server? ... cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/X15/Panels cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/X15/Panels/Textures

[Flightgear-devel] Auto-generated files in CVS

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
This has been discussed before and I don't recall any reason why these auto-generated files should be in CVS. If this is the case please could someone remove them. SimGear: aclocal.m4 simgear/simgear_config.h.in FlightGear: aclocal.m4 src/Include/config.h.in - Julian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem compiling recent Simgear CVS

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
Until this is fixed properly, you can fix this by adding the line: AC_PREREQ(2.13) at the beginning of configure.in, just after the dnl ... lines which are comments. At least, this works for me. - Julian Michael Basler wrote: Hi, when I tried to build CVS Simgear today, I got with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Base package CVS: read lock failed

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
Thanks, John - that fixes it. I suppose CVS didn't delete it because I had made modifications in it. I'd expect it to say so, though! - Julian John Check wrote: just did cvs up -dP and no problems. Try deleting your c172/Instruments directory, it's no longer relevant. TTYL J On

Re: AW: [Flightgear-devel] Problem compiling recent Simgear CVS

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub $ Michael Basler wrote: -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Julian Foad Until this is fixed properly, you can fix this by adding

Re: [Flightgear-devel] properties problem

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
); static const SGPropertyNode *latitude = fgGetNode(/position/latitude-deg, true); So these must be failing. There should probably be a check for null pointers there. - Julian Erik Hofman wrote: Julian Foad wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: The latest FlightGear from CVS gives me

[Flightgear-devel] Patch: Intro music on Windows

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
This patch plays the intro music on CygWin (I've tested) but I don't know whether it will work on non-CygWin Windows - see note on cygpath -w below. The start command launches any program that is associated with the .mp3 file name extension. Typically this might be MS Windows Media Player.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem compiling recent Simgear CVS

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
Norman Vine wrote: Michael Basler writes: Julian Foad write: Until this is fixed properly, you can fix this by adding the line: AC_PREREQ(2.13) at the beginning of configure.in, just after the dnl ... lines which are comments. At least, this works for me. One million thanks

Re: AW: [Flightgear-devel] Problem compiling recent Simgear CVS

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
OK: a CygWin update followed by mv acsite.m4 aclocal.m4 fixed it for me. Details below. Norman Vine wrote: Julian Foad writes: Now I've got another problem with it. I don't seem to need the AC_PREREQ(2.13) any more (it doesn't make any difference to the following output), but I get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch: Intro music on Windows

2002-01-20 Thread Julian Foad
Norman Vine wrote: Julian Foad writes: The /m switch specifies a minimised (iconised) window. Could Windows users check whether this is supported on various versions of Windows. It is on Windows ME. AFAIK 'start /m' is supported on all Win32 systems The cygpath -w command converts

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Obvious Speedups

2002-03-20 Thread Julian Foad
Norman Vine wrote: Removed fgReshape() call from main loop That's undoubtedly a good thing. Never mind who can see a speed benefit and who can't. I can only imagine it was put there to work around some bug. If so, let's see if the bug shows up again, and fix it properly if it does.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metakit 2.4.2 = 2.4.3

2002-03-27 Thread Julian Foad
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:08:59 + Julian Foad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SimGear root includes metakit-2.4.2-32.tar.gz. Version 2.4.3 is now available and fixes several potentially serious bugs. I'm not saying Flight Gear is affected by any of them (I have

[Flightgear-devel] Pilot view offset

2002-03-28 Thread Julian Foad
The recent 3D work is absolutely lovely. With Jim's view manager work, can we re-instate the F5-F8 keys so that they move the pilot's head up/down/left/right relative to the airframe? The effect would be equivalent to the old 2D panel moving around the screen. In particular, moving the

[Flightgear-devel] Runway numbers: leading zero

2002-03-28 Thread Julian Foad
In Britain, as far as I know, we always use two-digit numbers for the runway direction - e.g. 09 or 09L or 09R, not 9L. Is this not the case in the USA and elsewhere? - Julian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-28 Thread Julian Foad
The joystick axis squared mode seems to default to on, and is applied at the centre of the axis, not the zero-point of the output value. In the default joysticks.xml, the throttle bindings do not explicitly set it false, so the throttle movement is very odd, so I edited my joysticks.xml.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plotting tool

2002-04-03 Thread Julian Foad
Quint, There is Atlas (atlas.sourceforge.net), which connects to Glight Gear and plots the aircraft's track on a nice moving map display. It doesn't record any other data, but the source code will show you one way of getting data out of FlightGear. - Julian Quint Mouthaan wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] /controls/parking-brake

2002-04-16 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: MSVC has no 'fmax' function. 'max' is ok (a macro !). Hmm -- max won't work under GCC because it's an inlined function. Heh? You mean the inlined (templated) max function from algorithm/stl_algobase.h? What's wrong with that? It is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Purpose of the Next Release?

2002-04-16 Thread Julian Foad
Jonathan Polley wrote: ... Aside from removing unreferenced variables, the bulk of the changes were in the area of the use of floating-point. Since C does all passing of floats as doubles, and does all math in double, could we have a mandate that all floating-point valued be double? I

[Flightgear-devel] Propellor graphics

2002-04-17 Thread Julian Foad
The spinning propellor (on c172-3d) needs a bit of work. It spins even when the model is parked and the engine stopped. If pause mode is on, it spins more slowly but still does not stop. With magnetos off but starter engaged, the tachometer shows about 600 RPM (i.e. 10 revs per second). The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Purpose of the Next Release?

2002-04-17 Thread Julian Foad
Jonathan Polley wrote: My C training goes back to circa 1985, at which time all floats were passed as doubles. Yes, they were. In fact, the modern C/C++ compilers to which I have access still do this (I don't use gcc, except to rebuild FlightGear). Oh? Which compilers? All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Realy strange

2002-04-18 Thread Julian Foad
This is what you get if the wrong version of automake/autoconf is used. Unfortunately the old and new versions are not compatible. SimGear needs the old version. The automake/autoconf supplied with CygWin automatically detects which version to use, and it might be possible to get these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Installing only changed header files

2002-04-19 Thread Julian Foad
Thanks; I think I'll do that. - Julian David Megginson wrote: Julian Foad writes: Doesn't everyone have the same problem that I have: that after re-building plib and/or SimGear, even after a one-file change, the make install copies all of the header files to the install

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Realy strange

2002-04-19 Thread Julian Foad
Alexander Kappes wrote: Thanks for the information Julian. Yes, I removed the old config.cache file. Did I get this right, the only way to make it work again is reverting to the old version? The old version of the auto-tools will probably work, but I don't know for sure. And I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Installing only changed header files

2002-04-19 Thread Julian Foad
Alex Romosan wrote: Julian Foad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't everyone have the same problem that I have: that after re-building plib and/or SimGear, even after a one-file change, the make install copies all of the header files to the install directory, putting the current date

[Flightgear-devel] Simgear timezone file parsing anomaly

2002-04-19 Thread Julian Foad
What this code says is ignore anything after a hash ... unless we're compiling with Microsoft C, in which case only ignore lines which start with a hash. Surely this isn't intended. Curt checked in the change last May, but almost certainly didn't invent it. My tentative guess would be that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGFS Link Error

2002-04-20 Thread Julian Foad
Paul Deppe wrote: When making the latest CVS FGFS on Cygwin/Win2k, the following link error occurs: /usr/lib/libplibul.a(ulContext.o)(.text+0x47):ulContext.cxx: undefined reference to `wglGetCurrentContext@0' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I don't know the reason for it, but you

[Flightgear-devel] Propellor speed error due to FGSubsystem::update(multi_loop)

2002-04-20 Thread Julian Foad
The error in the speed of the propellor, and other things that we might not have noticed yet, is caused by the handling of the variable multi_loop in main.cxx:fgUpdateTimeDepCalcs(). After being used to update the FDM, this multi_loop value (or the value 1 in freeze mode) is passed to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Propellor graphics

2002-04-20 Thread Julian Foad
Update to my own comments: Julian Foad wrote: The spinning propellor (on c172-3d) needs a bit of work. It spins even when the model is parked and the engine stopped. If pause mode is on, it spins more slowly but still does not stop. That works now (it stops). Maybe I didn't have

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Cygwin/Win2k link error for wglGetCurrentContext

2002-04-20 Thread Julian Foad
Thanks guys. Apologies for implying that it might have been a problem with plib. Curt, will you change this line (see end of this message) in CVS? I've tried it and it works for me, and it looks like the right fix. - Julian Sebastian Ude wrote: I guess this is the problem. -lopengl32

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Propeller animation speed fix

2002-05-02 Thread Julian Foad
(_position_deg = 360.0) -- On 21 April Julian Foad wrote: The error in the speed of the propellor, and other things that we might not have noticed yet, is caused by the handling of the variable multi_loop in main.cxx:fgUpdateTimeDepCalcs(). After being used to update the FDM, this multi_loop

[Flightgear-devel] Extra GCC warnings

2002-05-02 Thread Julian Foad
Andy queried why we aren't using the GCC option -Wall. I've been compiling for a few weeks now with extra GCC warnings enabled, to see whether it will help with portability issues or just be a nuisance. I used these options: -Wall -pedantic -Wpointer-arith -Wall is highly recommended, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] windows binary

2002-05-06 Thread Julian Foad
It seems to be caused by a recent change in CygWin. Here is Norman's answer to the same question: Norman Vine wrote (on Tue, 23 Apr 2002): The opengl libs got moved to / lib / w32api / directory don't ask me why ? I just made a link to these in my '/ lib' dirrectory you could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux IDE

2002-05-14 Thread Julian Foad
Source Navigator (originally by Cygnus, then RedHat, but now being maintained on SourceForge) is well worth a try. Right now, the patched version at http://oimanager.de/sn.htm is best, but there should be an official release some time soon. It has more cross-referencing features than MSVC,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] re fgfs-base-0.7.10.zip

2002-05-15 Thread Julian Foad
Norman Vine wrote: FYI Most Win32 archive tools WinZip ect support tar files nowadays FYI The Latin for and the rest is et cetera, abbreviated etc. (or less commonly c.) :) - Julian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Christian Mayer wrote: Note: You 2nd version does *not* use the string concatenation. The 2nd version boils down to the very C++ dependant operator(operator(operator(cout, usage),endl),...); Yes, it does. What point are you trying to make by saying very C++ dependant? Nearly all of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
John Wojnaroski wrote: I recall reading an article several years ago in a flying mag (can't remember exactly where or when) on someone's proposal to change the number of degrees on the compass from 360 to 400. ... Have you noticed Deg/Rad/Grad or DRG on every scientific calculator? Those

[Flightgear-devel] Cameron's time zone

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with: Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500 which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC, which is about a day into the future. (The current time now is Thu 16 May 2002 16:38 UTC.) - Julian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Christian Mayer wrote: I wanted to point out the very big (internal) differnce of the ANSI C style string1 string2 THat ends up as string1string2 in a normal array of char vs. The C++ way: cout string1 string2 wich uses the operator() method. Both are valid and have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cameron's time zone

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Alex Perry wrote: Cameron, your latest e-mail message is time-stamped with: Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:01 -0500 which means 09:41 on the 17th, local time, which is 5 hours behind UTC, which is about a day into the future. Don;t worry about it; Cameron just likes to have his

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: I simply don't know what I'm doing wrong

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Foad
Another idea: you might have old versions of SimGear, plib or other libraries installed somewhere. This should find exactly one copy of libsgsky: $ find /usr -name 'libsg*' -exec grep -l getSpan_m {} \; /usr/local/lib/libsgsky.a If it finds none or more than one, there's a problem with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bad line endings when running on windows

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Foad
Frederic Bouvier wrote: The telnet interface produce wrong line ending when I run both FlightGear and the telnet client on Win2k. I've just sent a patch to Curt that produce line ending based on the platform where fgfs is running ( something between #ifdef and #endif ). For the moment,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bad line endings when running on windows

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Foad
I (Julian Foad) wrote: Idea: the receiver should accept any of these four line endings: Sorry, I misunderstood. I was thinking of a peer-to-peer type connection. - Julian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bad line endings when running on windows

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Foad
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Perhaps I didn't made me clear. The problem is when FlightGear send text to the telnet client. Each line begins where the previous ends because Win2k telnet client needs a cariage return (\r) with the line feed (\n). OK. The Telnet protocol (RFC854) requires that line

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-26 Thread Julian Foad
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy, I dumped the last 3 iterations (for my own benifit) and following that is the solution report. What I did for now was go into the Airplain.cpp Airplain - Airplane ? Drag factor: 1.000199 Lift Factor: 1.000410 aoaDelta: 0.000110 tailDelta: 0.83 elevDelta:

[Flightgear-devel] SimGear tidy-up (GCC -Wall warnings etc.)

2002-06-05 Thread Julian Foad
1. simgear/simgear_config.h.in should not be in CVS, as it is generated from configure.in and so gives conflicts on every update. 2. simgear/metar/Dcdmetar.cpp: function static bool vrblVsby is unused, so could profitably be removed or surrounded by #if 0. (Note that, being static, it can't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch for options.cxx

2002-06-07 Thread Julian Foad
If the program cannot find options.xml, I strongly suggest that it still should give a sensible (if brief) reply to --help. This reply should tell the user how to help it to find options.xml. - Julian C. Hotchkiss wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: C. Hotchkiss wrote: ... If the file

[Flightgear-devel] Property browser bugs

2002-06-22 Thread Julian Foad
I'm debugging the property browsers. Currently they don't handle indexing properly: multiple instances of /input/mice/mouse/mode[0]/button/ are shown without indices because the buttons are numbered 2,3,4 but the test it uses is Is there a child of this name with index 1?. Clicking on any of

[Flightgear-devel] Altimeter broken

2002-06-22 Thread Julian Foad
The altimeter seems to be broken at the moment. /steam/altitude-ft shows a huge, unchanging, random value for me, and the instrument (on more than one aircraft) just stays at zero. - Julian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate properties?

2002-06-23 Thread Julian Foad
I see rho-slugsft3 in the built-in property browser (View/Properties), but rho-slugs_ft3 in the httpd property browser. I think what is happening is that the latter is correct, but the PLIB default font fails to show underscore characters. I would guess that you took the name as you saw it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Altimeter broken

2002-06-23 Thread Julian Foad
. By the way, I have just stepped through this and I noticed that FGEnvironmentMgr::getEnvironment returns a _copy_ of the environment object, which involves setting up new interpolation tables. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to return a reference to it? - Julian Julian Foad wrote

[Flightgear-devel] Capturing warnings

2002-06-24 Thread Julian Foad
Making all in Main c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/local/include -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/local/lib/FlightGear\ -g -O1 -finline-limit-6 -finline-functions -Wall -pedantic -Wpointer-arith -c main.cxx main.cxx: In function `void fgUpdateTimeDepCalcs()':

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metakit build problem...

2002-06-30 Thread Julian Foad
Gene Buckle wrote: I get the attached error when building Metakit. I'm using the latest Cygwin installation. g++ -c -O2 -I../unix/../include -I/usr/include/generic -I/usr/include ../unix/../tcl/mk4tcl.cpp -DDLL_EXPORT -DPIC In file included from ../unix/../tcl/mk4tcl.cpp:22:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Capturing warnings

2002-07-01 Thread Julian Foad
I now have a practical solution for saving the compiler warnings: a wrapper script replacement for the compiler. rm config.cache # Otherwise it keeps the previous values of CC and CXX. GCCFLAGS=-Wall -pedantic -Wpointer-arith CC=saveoutp gcc CXX=saveoutp c++ CFLAGS=$GCCFLAGS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS log browser broken

2002-07-02 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm not a python expert and do not claim to have any knowledge on the subject. But tcl will give very similar errors when a sub program dies. It builds a pipe to the IO of the other process and if it dies it reports a 'broken pipe.' So my best guess is still that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crashes at tile borders revisited

2002-07-03 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I agree that random/periodic bugs are insidious and frustrating and makes the software look like crap; therefore we should have a 'culture' of agressive pursuit of these problems. But, unfortunately I can't replicate your particular problem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ANN: Customized Joystick Bindings and Autodetection

2002-07-05 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: I've just checked in a new patch for automatic joystick type detection (where available). NOTE: it will work *only* if you have a recent (2 months or so) CVS version of plib. ... Please send me your bindings for your own device. Under Linux, you can find the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ANN: Customized Joystick Bindings and Autodetection

2002-07-05 Thread Julian Foad
I (Julian Foad) wrote: For my Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold USB joystick, that gave: Joystick test program. ~~ Joystick 0: Microsoft PC-joystick driver Joystick 1 not detected ... which is presumably because I haven't bothered to install Saitek's driver, because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ANN: Customized Joystick Bindings and Autodetection

2002-07-05 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: I've just checked in a new patch for automatic joystick type detection (where available). NOTE: it will work *only* if you have a recent (2 months or so) CVS version of plib. The present sets of bindings result in the throttle being squared about its centre, which

[Flightgear-devel] CVS not working

2002-07-07 Thread Julian Foad
The CVS server is not working for me at the moment. It was working 10 hours ago when I last tried it. $ cvs diff cvs [diff aborted]: recv() from server cvs.flightgear.org: EOF - Julian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS not working

2002-07-08 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Julian Foad writes: The CVS server is not working for me at the moment. It was working 10 hours ago when I last tried it. $ cvs diff cvs [diff aborted]: recv() from server cvs.flightgear.org: EOF Seems to be working for me at the moment. Yes, it's back

[Flightgear-devel] Bug tracker

2002-07-09 Thread Julian Foad
The SourceForge Bug Tracker has the following outstanding bug reports: ID SummaryDate Assigned To Submitted By 433286 Sun lights plane at night. 2001-06-14 17:33 nobody dmegginson (still a bug) 433288

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] concave mirrors

2002-07-11 Thread Julian Foad
The focal point is where rays will be focussed to/from a parallel beam of light - like the rays from an object at infinite distance. The theory is normally quoted in these terms, as it avoids having to consider two distances at once (the distance to the object and the distance to the image or

[Flightgear-devel] Updating to new CVS trunk repository

2002-09-27 Thread Julian Foad
Just trying my first CVS update in a couple of weeks. I see there is a new repository for the trunk, so I changed all my CVS/Root files to point to the -0.9 one and logged in with the new password. [Why not just have no password?] But I get: cvs server: Updating . cvs [server

[Flightgear-devel] Joystick files still contain bad names

2002-09-27 Thread Julian Foad
Two base package files, Input/Joysticks/CH/pro-pedals-usb.xml Input/Joysticks/CH/pro-yoke-usb.xml both still (or again) contain nameMicrosoft-PC-Joysticktreiber /name namePilote de joystick PC Microsoft /name which is less than useful as discussed before. Please could someone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick files still contain bad names

2002-09-27 Thread Julian Foad
Michael Basler wrote: Julian, which is less than useful as discussed before. Please could someone remove those lines, and could contributors please be careful not to include such lines in their contributions. This was me :-( at a time when we did not yet completely figure where/how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updating to new CVS trunk repository

2002-09-27 Thread Julian Foad
Alex Perry wrote: The username changed too. Yes, I forgot to mention that. However, you can see that my problem was not logging in but updating. Someone must know how to get around this ... anyone? - Julian Just trying my first CVS update in a couple of weeks. I see there is a new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updating to new CVS trunk repository

2002-09-27 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Julian Foad writes: Alex Perry wrote: The username changed too. Yes, I forgot to mention that. However, you can see that my problem was not logging in but updating. Someone must know how to get around this ... anyone? Personally, I just did a fresh checkout

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updating to new CVS trunk repository

2002-09-28 Thread Julian Foad
Julian Foad wrote: Just trying my first CVS update in a couple of weeks. I see there is a new repository for the trunk, so I changed all my CVS/Root files to point to the -0.9 one and logged in with the new password. [Why not just have no password?] But I get: cvs server: Updating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internal compiler error

2002-10-03 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: http://www.memtest86.com/ I haven't noticed random crashes or corruption in the two years I've been running my current PC, but I decided to try this anyway. Most of the tests showed no problems, but the block move tests found thousands of errors, mostly in a particular

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FWIW

2002-10-11 Thread Julian Foad
Cameron Moore wrote: Also while I'm here, I wanted to mention that I get around 3 spams per day to the flightgear lists that noone ever sees (I'm the primary moderator if you haven't picked that up yet). The moderating is working out pretty well I think. Yes, it must be because I haven't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Database Model

2002-10-11 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: This is a good point, actually. Almost all the Linux filesystems use a 4k block as the minimum allocation unit*, and I presume NTFS is similar. I thought it was the other way around: that most Linux filesystems (by which I mean ext2) and NTFS had 1K or 0.5K blocks, and that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Julian Foad
Jacek M. Holeczek wrote: ... There are two problems with the joystick. First, there are two vertical bars/arrows in the cockpit for the elevators, but only the right one is following the joystick (the left one always stays in the middle) - however, if I view the plane from outside I can see that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dc3 pannel lights

2002-10-24 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. Instruments that test whether they are powered should default to powered if the aircraft does not provide a suitable electrical system. This could translate to if the required power bus property is not present. A simple default

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TC ball

2002-10-17 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm guessing that Ay / Az is roughly proportional to Fy / Fz so these two methods won't be exactly the same, but should be similar enough. Well, a classic rule of physics is F = m.a (force = mass x acceleration) and that applies to the directions of the force and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing issues

2002-10-17 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: What I would like to propose for people's consideration, is the idea of taking each of FlightGear's component libraries and converting them to the LGPL license. The top level wrapper code (i.e. whatever is in src/Main) would remain GPL. Well, it doesn't matter what

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ADF change?

2002-10-26 Thread Julian Foad
Curtis L. Olson wrote: ... What would be really useful when you get into modeling push buttons is to be able to model a switch where it is true while the mouse is depressed and then immediately returns to false when the mouse button is released. Currently you need to click a second time to

[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear build failure: global_logstream/rstrip

2002-10-26 Thread Julian Foad
With GCC 3.2 I get: Making all in DemChop make[3]: Entering directory `/home/julianfoad/src/TerraGear/src/Prep/DemChop' saveoutp c++ -O1 -finline-limit-256 -finline-functions -Wall -pedantic -Wpointer-arith -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o demchop demchop.o ../../../src/Lib/DEM/libDEM.a -lsgbucket

[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear bits and pieces

2002-10-26 Thread Julian Foad
I am carrying some local changes to TerraGear which probably ought to go into CVS. Patch attached. They are just minor and cosmetic fixes; nothing that affects the generated scenery. - Julian Index: acinclude.m4 === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clickable cockpit

2002-10-28 Thread Julian Foad
. Renganathan did substantial work on the HUD for use in a research project. If anyone knows whether he is still interested in it, that might also be helpful. Please let the resolution be swift and easy so that developers will not be put off trying to change anything. - Julian Foad, Secretary

[Flightgear-devel] Clickable 3D panel

2002-11-04 Thread Julian Foad
Lovely stuff. For those who were wondering why it seems intermittently broken, what seems to be happening is the 2D panel hotspots are always active as well, and they pick up the mouse clicks as well (or instead, if the 2D hotspot area overlaps a 3D hotspot area). So there are two places you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clickable 3D panel

2002-11-04 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: Julian Foad wrote: For those who were wondering why it seems intermittently broken, what seems to be happening is the 2D panel hotspots are always active as well, and they pick up the mouse clicks as well (or instead, if the 2D hotspot area overlaps a 3D hotspot area

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ExternalNet FDM

2002-11-07 Thread Julian Foad
Martin Spott wrote: So the only command line change would be to go from --native=socket,in,30,,5500,udp --fdm=external to --native=socket,in,30,,5500,udp --fdm=null btw, do we have an 'official' port number assignment ? Over the time I read several suggestions by several

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: /controls/engine/ reorg

2002-11-07 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: A while ago, Curt suggested moving from ... and so on, to something more sane: /controls/engine[0]/ /controls/engine[1]/ /controls/engine[2]/ /controls/engine[3]/ Yes, lovely. Excellent. We could even go to /controls/engines/engine[0/ and so on to

[Flightgear-devel] Engine models: start-up and commonality between FDMs

2002-11-07 Thread Julian Foad
I was having a look at the piston engine start-up code. I absolutely love the way it chugs away for a second or two and then coughs into life - the sound effects really make it - but I wanted to make the speeds and stuff more realistic. Looking at the JSBSim engine code, it uses lots of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clickable 3D panel

2002-11-08 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: [about making the panel hot spots visible] Try the attached patch, which predicates the boxes on the /sim/panel-hotspots property. That is excellent! So simple, and in conjunction with David's recent zoom in/out/normal (+/-/=) bindings, it immediately makes clear what's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] data logging

2002-11-09 Thread Julian Foad
Boslough, Mark B wrote: O.K. I've got a couple of new FDMs. 1) fdm=csv replays a flight from a csv file, running forward or backwards in time while controlling the rate. 2) fdm=skyhook, which lets you fly around as if hanging from a crane (sorta like magic carpet, but you can go backward).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Engine models: start-up and commonality betweenFDMs

2002-11-09 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: I like the idea as well: it would be nice if the engine were its own subsystem and we could mix-and-match engines and FDMs (let's try the J3 cub with 180HP). Unfortunately, the FDM people haven't been too enthusiastic: in particular, JSBSim is supposed to run standalone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yasim origin and model offsets

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: Anyway, what I now remember is this: the camera position as configured for the chase view is always in relation to the FDM location. And in the case of Yasim that location is always the nose. Oh, good point. This will create problems for view direction

[Flightgear-devel] SimGear patches for GCC 3.2: memrchr and typename

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Foad
I had to remove a declaration of memrchr from simgear/metar/Local.h to compile under gcc 3.2 (SuSE Linux 8.1). There are lots of semi-standard functions declared there that probably shouldn't be. To fix some warnings I added typename into some typedef lines. I am not sure about the

[Flightgear-devel] Keyboard braking power

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Foad
It seems silly to have the brake key slam on full braking power, if it is to be used on the runway. No wonder the aircraft tend to tip over or burst their tyres. Can I recommend this patch which sets the all brakes strength to 0.5 and the individual left/right to 0.7? Personally I do the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Keyboard braking power

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Foad
Andy Ross wrote: Julian Foad wrote: It seems silly to have the brake key slam on full braking power, if ... This issue came up about a year ago. There really isn't any good resolution. ... My favorite hack, FWIW, was to have the on/off input affect the braking power slowly -- over

[Flightgear-devel] Radio frequency range: min/max/wrap

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Foad
I noticed that the radios had nav. freq. range 108.00 to 117.95 but com. freq. 0 to 140; this should be 118 to 140. But while playing with that I noticed that the wrapping is a bit unpredictable. With (min=118, max=140, step=1, wrap=true) adjusting it up and down, it sometimes skips 118 and

[Flightgear-devel] Sound vol/pitch transforms are like panel x/y/r transforms

2002-11-11 Thread Julian Foad
Fg_sound.cxx implements a way to control the volume and pitch of a sound specified in an XML config file. The optional steps in the volume control group are (and the pitch group is the same): - A variable value: one of A named property An internal special value (e.g. time since the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS gripes

2002-11-11 Thread Julian Foad
David Luff wrote: On 11/11/02 at 9:38 PM Matthew Law wrote: I've been having problems updating Simgear for a few days. I've tried everything - including moving the lot and starting again but it continually gets stuck at: cvs server: Updating src-libs U src-libs/.cvsignore U

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound vol/pitch transforms are like panelx/y/r transforms

2002-11-11 Thread Julian Foad
Erik Hofman wrote: Julian Foad wrote: ... Anomalies: 1. The pitch offset defaults to 1, but I think that is just a bug. 2. Since the offsets are constant, it is redundant to specify more than one. This arrangement is therefore not ideal, but I'm not sure what would be best. 3. A negative

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Engine models: start-up and commonality betweenFDMs

2002-11-11 Thread Julian Foad
David Luff wrote: On 11/10/02 at 4:02 AM Julian Foad wrote: Ah yes, starting, I seem to recall a lot of hacking and kludging to get everything to work :-) There's a number of problems currently: ... Have fun :-) Ah, glad you're there. If you're interested and have time to look, my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Engine models: start-up and commonality betweenFDMs

2002-11-12 Thread Julian Foad
David Luff wrote: It looks to me like you've got 2 too many curly brackets in doEnginePower, although I could be misunderstanding what you're doing there. Yes, I have got too many. This is the friction that was applied only when starting; I was making it permanent but haven't finished with

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