[Flightgear-devel] Re: Competition - SGI binary only [slightly OT

2001-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
The SGI-based developers of FlightGear might be interested in this ... If we submit a team entry, do we all get free passes to the conference ? 8-) We all get an Octane2 Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] GLX remote display on IRIX

2001-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Erik (and others), I'd just have a try - maybe you have an idea. I'm doing some simple tests to get an OpenGL app running on Linux to display on my IRIX machine at home. So I'm opening Xsgi with 'xhost +' and setting the approriate DISPLAY variable on the client. Several OpenGL test programs

[Flightgear-devel] Re: GLX remote display on IRIX

2001-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Curt, [...] I don't think the two glx implimentations are identical enough, and it may be that flightgear is doing something too complex for the sgi glx protocol to handle? Hmmm, I thought XFree86's GLX implementation was donated by SGI - or am I missing something ? [...] So I think you

[Flightgear-devel] Re: GLX remote display on IRIX

2001-11-29 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Perry writes: 1. NV clients don't work with any non NV display, or with a remote NV display. 2. A Utah display will not accept a non-Utah client for texturing. NV means NVidia and Utah points to Utah-GLX ? As I don't have and never had any Nvidia hardware the first point should not be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Global Developer Conference]

2001-12-04 Thread Martin Spott
Please let me know the interest from your group and if there is anyone interested in attending. It may be hard to have your participation without an attendee. If everything fails I'd consider having a nice trip to the USA - although it's not not my primary desire, because I'm quite busy

[Flightgear-devel] strange sky with ATI Radeon

2002-01-21 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, has anyone of you experienced the the nice featured sky you can see on this Image using an ATI Radeon AGP with XFree86-4.1.0 ?! http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FGFS/fgfs-sky.jpeg This seems to be specific to the Radeon driver - an Xpert-2000 AGP oder 3dfx Voodoo3 PCI display quite

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Disused Airfields and an Intro

2002-01-24 Thread Martin Spott
[...] The hard part will be finding the data for the ancient runway locations. Anyone? Hmmm, I'd like to second that. Since last summer I'm looking for precise data on an unused NATO airbase in France: Chambley AB, ICAO: FX01 There's a small map but I'm not shure if this is sufficient for a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Open Source Nvidia Driver

2002-01-24 Thread Martin Spott
Is there any open source driver project that support Nvidia architecture ? No, not with OpenGL/DRI. Try ATI Radeon instead (except 8500), Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.7.9 release schedule

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Spott
Well, the modern SGIs shouldn't have trouble running a recent version of FGFS. So we run on a SGI. Yep, as long as you have lots of CPU cycles. I believe an R10k at 300 MHz is minimum, also a MaxImpact/MXI graphics subsystem with maximum TRAM should be recommended. PS: Is there a way to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib on SuSE 7.3

2002-02-03 Thread Martin Spott
Hi. I'm a Linux newbie trying to compile FlightGear on SuSE 7.2. = Please excuse what is probably a dumb predicament. I got the out-of-date version of FlightGear that came with SuSE to run = properly by running SaX2 to Load 3D modules (RPM packages NVIDIA_GLX and = NVIDIA_kernel). [...]

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel digest, Vol 1 #276 - 13 msgs

2002-02-04 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:42:02AM -0500, Bays, Lance V wrote: [...] Are the files you mentioned already resident on my installation, or are they on one of the SuSE installation CD's? I don't know - but you might use 'rpm' to find out. This might looke somewhat like this (whis is my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GeForce4 announced at nVidia

2002-02-06 Thread Martin Spott
GeForce 4 announced. Can anyone tell me what's the big deal about the nVidia boards ? I know, they're pretty fast, but to what extent is this useful - at least for FlightGear. I have a simple ATI Radeon at my workplace with a PIII/600 and this gives me about 40 fps. Do I really need more to be

[Flightgear-devel] UIUC in 0.7.9

2002-02-06 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I didn't succeed in using a UIUC model in recent CVS. I know that notation of '--aircraft' has changed in some way but I can't find any way to activate my beloved Marchetti S-211. Is this still usuable ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are

Re: re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC; Was: Release schedule for 0.7.9

2002-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
fgfs --fdm=larcsim --aero=uiuc \ ^ This one is new to me as it was not necessary in 0.7.8. The rest was already known to me - I read about the aircraft/aero change and the directory path has been there as long as I know FlightGear. Thanks alot, Martin. -- Unix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: UIUC Usage Change

2002-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
For those of you still using UIUC models, the command-line (and property) usage has changed in this morning's CVS. The aircraft-dir is now relative to $FG_ROOT, so the full command line is like this: fgfs --fdm=larcsim --aero=uiuc --aircraft-dir=Aircraft-uiuc/F104 Woahaaa, _this_ is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: UIUC Usage Change

2002-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
Contributions for the other init files are very welcome. When adapting the Beech99 init file for the Marchetti i encountered that there appears no real standard on where the panel files do ahve to reside. C310 panel resides in Aircraft/c310, C182 panel resides in Aircraft/c182/Panels - and it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: UIUC Usage Change

2002-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
[...] I've been floating a couple ideas with John 'offline' but I think we will hold off on making any changes until after 0.7.9 so we can have a bit more discussion and thought about exactly what we want to do. Thanks for the explanation, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] X24B set typo

2002-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
[... jon wrote ] Correct. I intended the directory and all references to be small case: x24b The same with X15 ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] prerelease tarballs

2002-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
I've made prelease tarballs of SimGear-0.0.17 and FlightGear-0.7.9 and put them on the ftp server: The best FlightGear I've ever seen. I'm still hunting for bugs that I knew from previous releases and CVS checkouts (falling down on runways on startup etc.). Even effects similar to this one:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: C310

2002-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
From: Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sorry from this strange heading - as I'm reading this list from my news server I am posting from 'tin' You don't need high speed to crash the c310 instantly. Just push the nose down. And I don't agree that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-release Irix binary

2002-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
Erik, I've uploaded a pre-release version of FlightGear 0.7.9 at: did you notice that you put the old 0.7.7 binary into that package ? 'inst' complains about installing an older package as the one already installed, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.7.9pre2

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Some time ago a big company, which shall remain nameless, bought 3dfx. They have now opted to yank the 3dfx site, and all support for old cards with it. (That alone is reason enough not to buy their cards.) Yes, I wish there was more choice in the 3d graphics world. You could always try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-release Irix binary

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Uck, I must have changed the version behaviour. I'll make sure it will work for the official release. Where will you place the final version ? Will you update your FlightGear web page http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/ so we can point to it ? I'd like to update the comments on IRIX in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: KSFO ATIS

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
As long as we're clearing up odds and ends, should we have COM1 default to 118.85 for KSFO ATIS in 0.7.9? That means that the sim will start with the ATIS text scrolling across the top of the screen, but users might not know how to get rid of it. I dislike it, because it appears to eat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New manual available.

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
Michael and Martin have sent me an updated version of the Installation and Getting Started Guide: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/ Thanks for the kind announcement. The 'European' website mirror - I believe it's the only one around here :-) - is up to date. You might want to read it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New manual available.

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
The HTML versions on the website are trying to load non-existent CSS files (getstart.css FGShortRef.css). NS4 won't even show the page without the CSS files in place. :-/ Hmmm, I can't confirm this - just had a test with Netscape-4.78 on Linux, with and without enabling style sheets in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Crash when KMYF not KSFO

2002-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
So it appears that at least for KMYF, JSBSim and FlightGear are having a very strong disagreement over the elevation of the ground, and neither is willing to budge. Sounds like two typical flightgear developers. :-) Yep :-) This is _very_ similar to what I've been experiencing with 0.7.8

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.7.9 release

2002-02-16 Thread Martin Spott
Ok, web and ftp should be all updated. 0.7.9 should be all there. German mirror ist updating at the moment and will be ready until bandwidth permits. Curt, in 'netstat' this will show up as 134.91.82.3. whew I think I'm going to go take a week's vacation now. :-) I'm gonna have a beer first

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiled binaries for 0.7.9

2002-02-17 Thread Martin Spott
Right now on the FlightGear downloads page we have ready to run binaries for Windows, Mac OS X, Debian, and Sgi. I'm just trying to find out how to get some official blessing for a SuSE package that I plan to build, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiled binaries for 0.7.9

2002-02-17 Thread Martin Spott
dyld: ./fgfs-0.7.9-02.16.02 can't open library: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.6.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) Since I am missing the entire X11R6 directory, I assume that I need to load Xfree86? Yes, from a UNIX point of view you do, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More DC-3 3D model progress

2002-02-18 Thread Martin Spott
That is quite impressive! Indeed ! Vertex smoothing and transparent windows would be great... Until now it's got a transparent a**, eh, tail ;-)) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tiled panel progress

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Spott
From: Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8MB + AGP in a RagePro chipset UTAH-Glx ? I wonder how you would get RagePro running with plain XFree86/DRI ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] autogen.sh

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Spott
When using the provided 'autogen.sh' to configure the CVS source tree (on SuSE-7.3), then I see the following (at the moment configuring SimGear sources: Host info: Linux i686 automake: 1.4-p5 (14) Running aclocal [...] Running autoconf configure.in:21: error: possibly undefined macro:

[Flightgear-devel] .fgfsrc parser

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I'd like to put some comments into the ~/.fgfsrc file. But when I write: --airport-id=CYVK # Vernon then the string # Vernon gets interpreted, too and I'm sitting on an airfiled I've never seen before. Is it possible to extend the parser to allow such notation ? Thanks,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Athlon MP and Flightgear

2002-02-20 Thread Martin Spott
athlon is good but what about stability? Unfortunately I never hat an Athlon SMP system in my hands to try out. Athlon UP is pretty nice and stable, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] plane banks to left side

2002-02-21 Thread Martin Spott
I had some tests with 0.7.9 source and today's CVS (_very_ nice panel), with 0.7.9 base package and today's CVS, I tried different airports but the 'feature' is still there: Several models tend to bank to the left when the stick is in the middle: c172-larcsim does not c172 does c182 does c310

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plane banks to left side

2002-02-21 Thread Martin Spott
From: Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this a 'feature' or is this a bug ? This 'feature' is rather new to me, Feature. Perhaps implemented incorrectly. Perhaps not. On the ones that pull to the left, it's a feature. On the ones that don't, yet, it's a bug. Does that help ? Sort of ;-) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem report on release 0.7.9

2002-02-22 Thread Martin Spott
So, something seems to go wrong here. I recall a discussion on crash issues on airports other than KSFO on the list, but thought that would have been solved. I talked to Martion Spott, and he at least confirmed the problem with the Cessna in LOWI. With c172 to be precise. c310 doesn'n crash,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem report on release 0.7.9

2002-02-22 Thread Martin Spott
3. However, Start at Innsbruck LOWI gave me an immediate crash, too. OK. Has the NTSB been called to the scene[s], yet? They are not responsible for accidents on European territory ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] - Important -

2002-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
The down side of this is that with the monitoring tools our network admins have, we are most definitely no longer under the radar screen. In fact the network traffic to/from the flightgear server dwarfs the traffic for any other machine here in the department. Oh, I know what you're talking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FG/Opengc Interface

2002-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
#define SERV_HOST_ADDR your_NIC_address for the machine running fgfs. As I see it, I've to hard code the NIC at build time, right? This might be a pity for people like me sitting on a (home) network with dynamically assigned addresses (DHCP). The address of your loopback interface should

[Flightgear-devel] 'position/altitude-ft' property with UIUC model ?

2002-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
I've built ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Aircraft/marchetti-uiuc-set.xml Fortunately this is really simple. But it does not recognize the position altitude-ft1500/altitude-ft /position statement. Wht I start at KSFO i'm still sitting on the ground. Anything wrong out there ?

Re: re: [Flightgear-devel] position/altitude-ft property with UIUC model ?

2002-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
JSBSim has an on-ground trimming routine. Try also setting the velocity to non-zero. The file I put on the ftp server is called marchetti-uiuc-set.xml and looks like this: ?xml version=1.0? !-- UIUC Marchetti S.211 init

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Animated C172

2002-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
And just for fun, here's an elevator trim tab that's been ripped off at the Reno air races (looks like a modified P-51D): I read an article about this one: 3500 HP and Vmax of approx. mach 0.82 Not bad for a propeller driven plane, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Animated C172

2002-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Does all this animation work w/ the LaRCsim and UIUC code? I have a feeling 'yes', but we're still running 0.7.8. Your feeling's right, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] runway lights tested

2002-02-28 Thread Martin Spott
Also I read about special nvidia extension NV_point_sprite to work with light points it can help with this To be honest: You _don't_ mean this, do you !? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] marchetti-uiuc-set.xml

2002-03-07 Thread Martin Spott
Hi, would anyone mind including ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Aircraft/marchetti-uiuc-set.xml into the base package ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim changes

2002-03-10 Thread Martin Spott
[... Tony wrote ...]: OK, after discovering that my original implementation was horribly buggy, I have now committed a better version of the normalized control surface position code to JSBSim and FG cvs. There is a new set of properties for these: /surface-positions/flap-pos-pct [...] Hmmm,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] playing with runway lighting

2002-03-13 Thread Martin Spott
If anyone wants to take a look at the runway lighting work I've done so far here's what you need to do: Wow, this is _very_ nice, indeed. I have to admit that I'm waiting for this a long time. For me it does not matter that much if the layout is really exact - I'm happy as long as I have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting point for heli sim ?!

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Where's this autopilot-devel list you're talking about? http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/. Primarily intended top build a self controlled model helicopter (sort of UAV), Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting point for heli sim ?!

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Initial Mail: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/15951/0/8054454/ CVS: :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/autopilot checkout sim Screenshot: http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/images/sim.04.png (with some code 'borrowed' from OpenGC) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] playing with runway lighting

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Any words on how to model (edit) your favorite 'airport.btg.gz' file? Do you want to 'add' objects or change something about the automatically generated runway and taxiway model. I for instance would like to add some lights to my favourite home airport, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] playing with runway lighting

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott writes: I for instance would like to add some lights to my favourite home airport, Are you talking about standard runway and approach lighting, or other types of lighting. I'd be happy if I at least could add simple runway lighting as you did for KSFO. I don't need more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) / BSD OK?

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
The problems people have with the xBSD have nothing to do with FGFS. Once you've got all the dependencies (i.e. GL, PLIB, MK, etc) working, You might get in trouble with some graphics boards that are not supported by XFree86/DRI. I know that there is a project to build something that is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) / BSD OK?

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
FWIW on a SuSE 7.3 system I had to downgrade (install parallel actually) autoconf. Just pointing out SuSE needed a little tweak too. I would'nt call it that way. Autoconf on SuSE-7.3 works pretty nice. The only tweak is that you have to run 'aclocal' with '-I .'. I know this because I do build

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to define a new airport

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
I'd like to define a new airport. How can I do that ? Is there any paper talking about it ? There is FlightGear/docs-mini/AptNavFAQ.FlightGear.html with lots of useful information but I have the impression that you need to regenerate scenery at this location to include the new airport.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: SuSE new release ad page

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
http://www.suse.com/us/products/suse_linux/i386/games.html Yep, I've been pushing them a bit to make a build of the new release of FlightGear :-) Unfortunately this will not include all the nice stuff that went in in the meantime (c310 crashes on gear retraction ;-). I'll figure out how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: SuSE new release ad page

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
Interesting note, the top item on the list, Racer is not GPL or anything close to opensource ( see http://www.racer.nl/legal.htm ). It also uses [...] Yep, the also ship near to commercial software with their distribution - at least on CD-ROM. Anyway you will find such sort of software on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: SuSE new release ad page

2002-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
Interesting note, the top item on the list, Racer is not GPL or anything close to opensource ( see http://www.racer.nl/legal.htm ). I totally forgot Are you (Alex) using an Nvidia graphics board ? O.k., as I remember you do not. But many pople on this list do. So there seems to be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nvidia specific drawing and plib/Flightgear

2002-03-18 Thread Martin Spott
so we can run for example ./configure --with-nvidia-ext I'd like to mention that I have strong feelings against use of proprietary, single vendor extensions in the main source tree, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property Manager Changes

2002-03-19 Thread Martin Spott
Try a new CVS checkout of SimGear and see if the problem is still there. Already done that. Looks fine - thanks for the patch, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gcc on IRIX

2002-03-19 Thread Martin Spott
Someone here uses gcc on IRIX, right? Anything to mention as far as how well it works there? Compatibility problems with anything? I do. Works quite nice with common Unix/GNU utilities. I was proud I succeeded in building a N64 GCC, but unfortunately this one was not able to build

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug with c310

2002-03-20 Thread Martin Spott
One other nit: retracting the gear while sitting on the runway doesn't work like it should. :-) I'm happy that is works as it does now, because I don't get an airplane crash when I forget the gear before landing :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property Manager Changes

2002-03-20 Thread Martin Spott
I've now modified the property-manager interface to use const char * instead of std::string throughout the public interface [...] I have the impression that the flaps are gone. I try to set the flaps via ], I can see the lever moving over the panel but I can't 'feel' the flaps and they don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flaps not working in JSBSim

2002-03-21 Thread Martin Spott
JSBSim is no longer setting the /surface-positions/flaps-norm property, so the flaps don't move in the animation and don't make a sound. The position is still set correctly in /controls/flaps, [...] There are still no flaps in JSBSim's c310. The lever is moving on the panel but there's no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flaps not working in JSBSim

2002-03-21 Thread Martin Spott
Is this with the most recent JSBSim? Tony made some changes related to properties and perhaps there is some tweaking to do. The checkout is about five hours old, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] still no flaps on JSBSim

2002-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
The fix is in JSBSim CVS [...] Oh, that's great news. Sorry for pushing you on this, I didn't know the bug was already spotted, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: ..yawed OpenGL on 8 MB ATI mach64, was: [Flightgear-devel] Re: framerate

2002-04-02 Thread Martin Spott
From: Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know whether the IIC has the Pro feature set (suspect not). If it does, the Mach64 driver of Utah-GLX works fine for me. You might want to have a look at recent DRI development. I'm following this already for a while and it appears to me that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Configurable mouse ready to go

2002-04-02 Thread Martin Spott
Is it possible (under Unix/Linux) to run fgfs directly from a console and let it access the DRI? http://fbdri.sourceforge.net/ ATI Radeon only, I might have a try some time, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Runway numbers: leading zero

2002-04-02 Thread Martin Spott
[... Erik wrote ...] Alex Perry wrote: In Britain, as far as I know, we always use two-digit numbers Nope, not in the US. Dunno about elsewhere. I think it's the same in Europe as it is in Brittain. Right - seen this last week at EDWJ, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC compile problem

2002-04-02 Thread Martin Spott
From: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] When trying to compile the latest UIUC code I got the following error for about a hundred times: [...] What are you using to compile it? It compiles fine with gcc version 2.96 under Redhat 7.1. Erik an I are the ones that form the SGI group in this

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Base package access via rsync?

2002-04-03 Thread Martin Spott
Ok, people, please have a look at rsync scenery.flightgear.org::Base and tell me what you think. Very nice, indeed, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

[Flightgear-devel] Adding an Airport

2002-04-03 Thread Martin Spott
After digging through several README's, FAQ's and Robin's manual I decided to have a rough try with my so much desired airport. I did some calculation and then I added two lines to the default.apt(.gz) file for a minimal airport definition - to have a 'proof of concept' before I start working on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding an Airport

2002-04-04 Thread Martin Spott
[... Madr wrote ...] On Thu 4. April 2002 00:58, you wrote: sirius: 0:55:17 ~ fgfs [...] Attempting to set starting position from runway code FX01 heading 270 Failed to find FX01 in database. [...] IMHO You also need to update metakit databases runways.mk4 and simple.mk4, but I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding an Airport

2002-04-04 Thread Martin Spott
$FG_SRC / src / Airports / gensimple genrunways Thanks, this works fine. Now I'm rebuilding the relevant parts of the scenery - looks promising Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding an Airport

2002-04-04 Thread Martin Spott
Thanks, this works fine. Now I'm rebuilding the relevant parts of the scenery - looks promising O.k., I give up with scenery. I manage to create the runway but I didn't manage to create scenery with the hole that is necessary to see the runway. Nice try ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boost problems

2002-04-06 Thread Martin Spott
This doesn't mean much to me but it may be of some use. I have a feeling though that your compiler may be too old to compile boost. Is gcc 2.95 an option? Erik put _huge_ effort into the project because GCC is definitely _no_ option on IRIX/MIPS. I know what I'm talking about because I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building PPE with Python-2.1 !?

2002-04-06 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott writes: function `posix_openpty': posixmodule.o(.text+0x15c3): undefined reference to `openpty' /usr/lib/python2.1/config/libpython2.1.a(posixmodule.o): In function `posix_forkpty': posixmodule.o(.text+0x163d): undefined reference to `forkpty' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Re: (fwd) Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Spott
I think a series of demos would be a great idea. It would also be nice if there were demos for various terrain types (stress testing). I fly around the Seattle area simply because the mountains drastically impact frame rate. Not only the mountains. ATIS display has _heavy_ impact. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tower View

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Spott
Thanks to Jim Wilson, we have a working tower view in CVS: [...] Wow, this one is incredibly good, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: (fwd) Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Spott
On Monday 08 April 2002 07:41 am, you wrote: Not only the mountains. ATIS display has _heavy_ impact. I usually get around 100 fps inside a 800x600 window (BETA Radeon DRI driver, only 40 fps left at 1600x1024 ), at KSEA I only get 30-50 fps because of ATIS display (with today's current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-09 Thread Martin Spott
This driver has lots of neat new features OpenGL 2.0 Do they really implement the upcoming OpenGL-2.0 features in hardware or do they tend to rely on fallbacks ? It's somewhat astonishing that they already provide a driver for a still not really existent OpenGL standard. Do they create their

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-10 Thread Martin Spott
but 2.0 is in part a 'rconciliation' of the various 'propriatary' extensions and the inclusion of things that almost all of the manufacturers have done to support M$oft DX#. And this driver has more of these upcoming features then any of the previous ones. So this driver is Nvidia's tool to

[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim update ....

2002-04-11 Thread Martin Spott
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim' g++ -DFGFS -I../../.. -I../../../src -I/opt/gnu/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/FlightGear/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O3 -D_REENTRANT -c JSBSim.cxx JSBSim.cxx: In method `bool FGJSBsim::copy_to_JSBsim()':

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim C172 idle

2002-04-15 Thread Martin Spott
[... Andrew Ross wrote ...] Here's a gedanken experiment [...] A _what_ ? Is this a valid word in your language ? I'm asking because it definitely has german roots, the word 'gedanken' That's funny, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] WARNING: ssgLoadMDL: Couldn't open MDL file

2002-04-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hello alltogether, would you mind changing this back to the previous behaviour which means not to crash if there's no model description. Unfortunalety I've been off scene for a few days so it's not quite clear to me when the change happened. I was trying the Beech99 in the hope to see a working

Re: [Flightgear-devel] latest cvs changes

2002-04-19 Thread Martin Spott
Anyone up for a 0.7.10 release sometime soon? I wouldn't object a 0.7.10 release as long as where were at least two or three weeks for fixing obvious known bugs that prevent users from using functionality that is _supposed_ to be usuable right now (see my posting on the Beech99). In the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Strange opengl compiler error ?

2002-04-19 Thread Martin Spott
I used getstarted.pdf to learn to compile flightgear. This is very nice to hear, so we know there really _are_ people reding our manual ;-) Something missing in this pdf is that one has to install Xfree86 Metakit Hmmm, I believe it is _really_ obvious that yoy need X11 for FlightGear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.7.10

2002-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
It would be nice to get a CVS version that all the developers agree will compile and run on their systems, then (arbitrarily) label it 0.7.10 Maybe it would be useful to label this 0.7.10 release as feature rich but unstable (considering several pieces are broken that have been working in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LINUXTAG 2002

2002-04-23 Thread Martin Spott
PS: Who's already planning to come? I am preparing to come - if this is of any use, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trouble compiling on IRIX

2002-04-23 Thread Martin Spott
props.cxx:834: Internal Compiler Error in 'output_die', at dwarf2out.c:5433 [...] The compiler is GCC 2.95.3 Can anybody explain how this can be solved ? By avoiding GCC on IRIX. I had several tries with GCC at release 0.7.8 and I never succeeded because of compiler errors. I started filing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trees, alpha, and the sky

2002-05-05 Thread Martin Spott
http://www.megginson.com/flightsim/tree.png [...] 2. While other scenery shows through the alpha parts of the texture, the sky often doesn't, as you can see in the above screenshot (note how you can see the grass and river near the bottom of the trunk, but not the sky near the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Gusting winds

2002-05-07 Thread Martin Spott
fgfs --wind=270@15 --prop:/environment/params/gust-wind-speed-kt=25 H, not bad. This one is nasty - but very interesting. I don't even manage to touch down right on the runway - similar to my first experiences with FlightGear Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Failed to load 3D model

2002-05-20 Thread Martin Spott
we used to fall back to the glider model I mentioned this problem already several weeks ago but nobody was interested in it. Now as the subject comes up again I'd second the desire for a fallback to the glider - as we were used to have before for very long time, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Missing Model Problem

2002-06-01 Thread Martin Spott
I've fixed the missing model problem -- specifying a non-existant aircraft model (not any other kind) will default to the glider again rather than throwing an exception. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
For what it's worth, I'm involved in a side project that is using FlightGear + a commercial C172 flight dynamics model + cockpit hardware to hopefully achieve an FAA (and JAR) certified sim by late summer / early fall. The commercial fdm will run as a seperate program [...] Hmm, _this_

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightXpress article - SuSE 8.0 is an old version

2002-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
I just went round to the SuSE booth and looked on a 8.0 demo computer. The packaged version is 0.7.8 which we released last summer, a year ago. Ooops, I was quite shure they packaged a 0.7.9 for SuSE-8.0. I still think it would be worth submitting a formal request that the future SuSE 8.1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Radeon 8500 linux drivers

2002-06-10 Thread Martin Spott
Slightly off topic, but I found the following post from Sunday on dri-devel: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=772607forum_id=7177 Apparently, ATI have released (binary) Linux drivers for their FireGL 8700/8800 cards. These use the same core as the Radeon 8500, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New A-4/jet panel instruments

2002-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
* Jon S Berndt -- Thursday 20 June 2002 18:14: Any chance someone could post some screen shots of the panel? http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a8603365/fgfs4.jpeg I get that, too. What I'm missing in recent releases is display of the gear in the outside view and keyboard control of throttle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New A-4/jet panel instruments

2002-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I get that, too. What I'm missing in recent releases is display of the gear in the outside view and keyboard control of throttle and flaps. This appeared to be introduced the the recent A-4 updates in YASim. Can anyone confirm ? Works for me. Are you sure you have

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