Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes/Spoilers

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi, The aircraft file for the 747-100 provided by Jon for the SCALE3X expo does not contain a drag coeefficinet for the spoliers. I tried adding a value by copying that portion from the 737 xml file, but it does not appear to work. In that the value generated by the spoiler

[Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes/Spoilers

2005-03-13 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, The aircraft file for the 747-100 provided by Jon for the SCALE3X expo does not contain a drag coeefficinet for the spoliers. I tried adding a value by copying that portion from the 737 xml file, but it does not appear to work. In that the value generated by the spoiler lever is passed from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 10 February 2005 18:19, Martin Spott wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: James Turner wrote While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? The keys do seem to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: I've been spending as much time as possible over the past few days just flying around (I've had a very long gap where FG wouldn't build and I was busy with other things), but this has raised a small issue which may indicate something about my flying habits... Basically, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: For commercial airliners at least, it will make more sense to map the reverse to Ctrl+PgDown. The reason being is that the throttles are mapped to PgUp and PgDown, and thrust-reverse is part of the throttles. Erik Hofman wrote: The Fokker 100 has both speedbrake

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: The Fokker 100 has both speedbrake (Ctrl+B) and Spoiler (Shift+S) support. The model has been redesigned and improved significantly but there seemed to have a typo introduced for the animations. Is it a tall order to kindly request aircraft modellers to coordinate on a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-11 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: I agree. Although I do think the spoilers of the Fokker 100 are employed automatically on touchdown, but I'm not yet certain about that. You're absolutely correct, Erik. I don't ask people to force-match their aicrcraft model on a common standard where the _real_ aircraft

[Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread James Turner
I've been spending as much time as possible over the past few days just flying around (I've had a very long gap where FG wouldn't build and I was busy with other things), but this has raised a small issue which may indicate something about my flying habits... Basically, I have not yet found an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings are j/k for the spoilers, and Ctrl-B for the speedbrake,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi James James Turner writes Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings are j/k for the spoilers, and Ctrl-B for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Feb 2005, at 11:57, Innis Cunningham wrote: Basically, I have not yet found an aircraft where the speedbrakes or spoilers seem to work, either visually or in terms of slowing the plane down. From looking at data/keyboard.xml, I can see the current bindings are j/k for the spoilers, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: So, apologies for the confusion, I didn't check closely enough, and the two aircraft I happen to have been using the most, the F16 and the A320, don't seem to have either system installed. While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Feb 2005, at 13:03, Martin Spott wrote: While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of course

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Innis Cunningham
James Turner writes The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of course is guessing for a given model which surfaces are assigned to which name. I guess 'things on the wings' are spoilers, and 'things not on the wings' are speed-brakes? Except

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
James Turner wrote While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of course is guessing for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: James Turner wrote While we are are it, do we already have consensus on which keys to use for these functions - are the keys consistent across different aircraft and FDM's ? The keys do seem to be standard, j/k for spoilers and Ctrl-B for speedbrake, the issue of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Giles Robertson
Can't remember if the speedbrakes actually slow the aircraft on the 737 but the animation should work when you hit Ctrl-B The animation works, but has no noticeable affect on airspeed or attitude for all airspeeds I tested. Energy analysis of a log file didn't show any more energy dumped,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread dave
On Thursday 10 February 2005 15:51, Giles Robertson wrote: Can't remember if the speedbrakes actually slow the aircraft on the 737 but the animation should work when you hit Ctrl-B The animation works, but has no noticeable affect on airspeed or attitude for all airspeeds I tested. Energy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 10, 2005 08:27 am, James Turner wrote: BTW, there is no keybinding for reverse thrust : I'm going to test with some nasal code i found in one of the joystick files, but is there a free key I should use? Ctrl-R perhaps? For commercial airliners at least, it will make more sense to