Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-30 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Freitag 29 April 2005 22:36, ghours wrote:
 from where is it possible to get these patches ?

 I did find anything in JSBSim CVs
Yes, but there was a propblem with the standalone version of JSBSim.
Jon completely reverted these patches within a few hours.
The fix and the job to check that back to Jon's repository is in his hands 
now.

Sorry to say that, but I guess that the part which would end up into JSBSim 
will only include the solidness of the carrier deck.
I have initially developed the physical model with the JSBSim code, just 
because I found it convenient to have a vector class that I can use like a 
scalar value. I am just much faster in developing physical models with such a 
thing. The real final outcome is what we have in YASim and what I have 
learned by doing that.
I am a bit tired fighting against JSBSim's maintainer for magnitudes of time 
just to get some small and abvious changes into JSBSim. I don't want to think 
of bigger changes ... 

Greetings

Mathias

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-30 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Freitag 29 April 2005 22:58, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 * ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 22:36:
 [ground cache for JSBSim]

  Yes the patches are welcome .
  from where is it possible to get these patches ?

   ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/

 You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know
 it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.)
The diff still applies, since JSBSim is developed elsewhere.
Erik usually moves changes from JSBSim to flightgear before a release of fg.
Until then the patches apply.

   Greetings

Mathias

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-30 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Samstag 30 April 2005 01:00, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 1. JSBSim is not maintained in fgfs' cvs, but JSBSim's own cvs. It's only
regularly copied over to our cvs, so the patch applied here would
repeatedly get overwritten. And applying it in JSBSim cvs is currently
not a good idea because JSBSim is in a partial rewrite (- xml format).
Yep, that has to be done elsewhere.

 2. the FA18 model is from an anonymous contributor from the net. Although
Mathias beefed it up a lot, almost rewrote it, it's not GPL compatible
as long the original creator hasn't given permission. And it's hard
to ask him/her, because (s)he is ... anonymous. BTW: the great cockpit
is all Mathias'.
Yes, more or less.
In the meantime there is not much left from the original model. I have 
blueprints available and I redid many things according to that blueprints. 
There are still some parts copied from that anonymous model, but I want to 
redo them too.

   Greetings

  Mathias

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-30 Thread Jon Berndt
  You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know
  it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.)

 The diff still applies, since JSBSim is developed elsewhere.
 Erik usually moves changes from JSBSim to flightgear before a release of fg.
 Until then the patches apply.

Greetings

 Mathias

FYI: I'm working on getting the changes into JSBSim CVS, now. When this is 
worked out,
I'll let you know. Mathias and I have a couple of small things to work out, 
first.

Jon


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:25:36 +0200, Mathias wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Samstag 30 April 2005 01:00, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
  1. JSBSim is not maintained in fgfs' cvs, but JSBSim's own cvs. It's
  only
 regularly copied over to our cvs, so the patch applied here would
 repeatedly get overwritten. And applying it in JSBSim cvs is
 currently not a good idea because JSBSim is in a partial rewrite
 (- xml format).
 Yep, that has to be done elsewhere.
 
  2. the FA18 model is from an anonymous contributor from the net.
  Although
 Mathias beefed it up a lot, almost rewrote it, it's not GPL
 compatible as long the original creator hasn't given permission.
 And it's hard to ask him/her, because (s)he is ... anonymous.
 BTW: the great cockpit is all Mathias'.
 Yes, more or less.
 In the meantime there is not much left from the original model. I have
  blueprints available and I redid many things according to that
  blueprints. 
 There are still some parts copied from that anonymous model, but I
 want to  redo them too.

..I feel it might be adviceable to do this and all such rewrites in a
fashion that makes it clear to anyone in the legal professions, that
they are being rewritten or has been rewritten, fully legally, to
replace any and all suspect non-GPL code, with GPL code.

..some people whine in Gloklaw because they find their litigation 
bait exposed.  No need to fall for such baits anywhere.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-29 Thread ghours
Melchior FRANZ a écrit :
* ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 19:04:
An Aircraft with FDM YASIM does work correctly when we try to land on 
Nimitz: the solid material is active.
An Aircraft with FDM JSB does not work the solid material is not active.
[...]
Does anybody  could explain that problem.

That's simple: Mathias is still working on JSBSim's groundcache() support
(which is necessary for landing on the carrier), while that for YASim is
already in CVS (and the last release?). If you are very impatient: there
are patches available to add the feature to JSBSim already now.)
Yes the patches are welcome .
from where is it possible to get these patches ?
I did find anything in JSBSim CVs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb

2005-04-29 Thread ghours
Melchior FRANZ a écrit :
* ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 22:36:
[ground cache for JSBSim]
Yes the patches are welcome .
from where is it possible to get these patches ?

  ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/
You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know
it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.)
m.

Thanks the patche is OK .
Compilation and FGFS running without problems. The Nimitz deck is now 
solid and not butter.

Could not it be in the FGFS CVS ?
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