Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-24 Thread Martin Spott
Gene Buckle wrote:

 VERY neat toys.  I wonder if that Crista IMU could be used to drive a
 ground based artificial horizon...

It's not clear to me what you mean, do you aim at placing that IMU into
a real or model airplane and drive a ground station via telemetry ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-24 Thread Jonathan Richards
 On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:27:58 +0100,
 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
snip
 ..uh-oh, http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/ means they
 _distribute_, no?  AFAICT, they need to put the FG sources somewhere
 like http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/source/ too, to
 comply with the GPL's Section 3:

Quite right.  I have just emailed the CTO (copied to Curt) to bring Arnt's 
observations to his attention.

Regards
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:50:04 -0800 (PST), 
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Arnt Karlsen wrote:

  .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get
  nothing
   ^^^
  .com
   
..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)
   
  
   VERY neat toys.  I wonder if that Crista IMU could be used to
   drive a ground based artificial horizon...
  
   That would come in very handy when I get to the point where I want
   to run R/C aircraft from my sim cockpit.
 
  ..web camera and an 802.11 link to web site for live footage?  ;-)
 
 50Mhz R/C gear and 70cm ATV for the video downlink.  

..web cameras and an 802.11 link sounds easier to do than ATV, 
can also back up the 50MHz control link. Both ATV and 802.11 
needs line-of-sight, no?  Then both needs relay vehicles.

 The plan is for three cameras (left, right and center) for display on
 the projector screens the sim uses.  Now granted, this is a couple of
 years down the road.  I've got a lot of work yet to do on the sim
 itself.  The eventual goal is to have a camera plane like a 12'
 Telemaster for doing aerial photo work. 

..this is viable, also as a business vehicle, media likes
cheap-n-quick air-to-ground footage, rush hour traffic 
makes a sound baseline, and newsworthy events happens 
almost every day and is yours to grab, if you're airborne.

 I'd like to be able to build a 1:5 scale F-15C for doing airshows, but
 that's a WAY off. :)

.. ;-) 

..and the 12'er will need some form of rocket fired chute, too.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:22:36 -0500, 
David Calkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 At 09:08 PM 3/21/2004, David Calkins wrote:
 Can anyone point me in the right direction for some documentation on
 the relevant protocols for driving FlightGear from an external app?
 
 We're involved with UAV control using the PICCOLO autopilot system 
 (www.cloudcaptech.org).

.._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get nothing 
(un-known host) on http, dns and whois (NOT FOUND).

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get nothing 
  ^^^
 .com

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:26:59 + (UTC), 
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get nothing 
   ^^^
  .com

..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Gene Buckle
  Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
   .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get nothing
^^^
   .com

 ..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)


VERY neat toys.  I wonder if that Crista IMU could be used to drive a
ground based artificial horizon...

That would come in very handy when I get to the point where I want to run
R/C aircraft from my sim cockpit.

g.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:27:58 +0100, 
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:26:59 + (UTC), 
 Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
   .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get nothing 
^^^
   .com
 
 ..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)

..uh-oh, http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/ means they 
_distribute_, no?  AFAICT, they need to put the FG sources somewhere
like http://cloudcaptech.com/download/FlightGear/0.9.2/source/ too, to
comply with the GPL's Section 3:
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html#SEC3) 
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: 

a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source
code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2
above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, 

b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to
give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically
performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the
corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections
1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,

( c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to
distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only
for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in
object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with
Subsection b above.) ).

..guideline questions in http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html
Is source code included in the distribution?
Is a written offer for source code included with a distribution of just
binaries? 
http://www.gnu.org/

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:58:51 -0800 (PST), 
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
.._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get
nothing
 ^^^
.com
 
  ..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)
 
 
 VERY neat toys.  I wonder if that Crista IMU could be used to drive a
 ground based artificial horizon...
 
 That would come in very handy when I get to the point where I want to
 run R/C aircraft from my sim cockpit.

..web camera and an 802.11 link to web site for live footage?  ;-)

-- 
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  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: driving FlightGear from an external app

2004-03-23 Thread Gene Buckle
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
   
 .._is_ www.cloudcaptech.org the correct address???  I get
 nothing
  ^^^
 .com
  
   ..thanks.  Oo, _neat_ toys.  :-)
  
 
  VERY neat toys.  I wonder if that Crista IMU could be used to drive a
  ground based artificial horizon...
 
  That would come in very handy when I get to the point where I want to
  run R/C aircraft from my sim cockpit.

 ..web camera and an 802.11 link to web site for live footage?  ;-)

50Mhz R/C gear and 70cm ATV for the video downlink.  The plan is for three
cameras (left, right and center) for display on the projector screens the
sim uses.  Now granted, this is a couple of years down the road.  I've got
a lot of work yet to do on the sim itself.  The eventual goal is to have a
camera plane like a 12' Telemaster for doing aerial photo work.  I'd like
to be able to build a 1:5 scale F-15C for doing airshows, but that's a WAY
off. :)

g.



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